Monday, December 24th 2018

JOLED Announces OLED Panels for PC Monitors, Expected to Hit the Market in 2019

JOLED, a Japanese Display, Sony and Panasonic group, has announced new OLED solutions for PC monitors that are expected to enter the market in 2019. While OLED has become ubiquitous in both high-end smartphones and TV's, some of the technology's quirks (read: burn-in) mean that it has some more problems that need addressing compared to the other, more traditional display panel technologies. That's likely one of the reasons OLEDs are taking so long to enter the PC monitor market, even though some of their characteristics (such as the fact that the announced JOLED models can features repsosne times of 0.1 ms) are naturally gamer-appealing.

The market entries will start small, with 21.6" diagonals in both 1080p (geared for gamers in partnership with Japanese e-sports team Burning Core) and 4K (which should make its way to the market inside ASUS' Proart PQ22UC. For some reason, there's apparently a 27" panel that's being developed specifically for smart home applications, instead of for the gaming crowds. Go figure.
Source: PC Games Hardware.de
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47 Comments on JOLED Announces OLED Panels for PC Monitors, Expected to Hit the Market in 2019

#1
Vayra86
So they finally get around to OLED, and they start at 21,6 inch. What is this, some misplaced form of retro styling? 2003 wants its diagonal back. And 4K on that size is even more dafuq-worthy.

Regardless, until I see a credible study and re-test of OLED burn-in for static images, I'm not jumping. So far there is good reason not to put it in a monitor.
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#2
natr0n
Spent a few hours looking at monitors and wondered when oleds are coming out. I know there is a single dell model but it got discontinued.

It absurd how many panel types there are out there.
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#3
Manu_PT
Vayra86, post: 3965136, member: 152404"
So they finally get around to OLED, and they start at 21,6 inch. What is this, some misplaced form of retro styling? 2003 wants its diagonal back. And 4K on that size is even more dafuq-worthy.

Regardless, until I see a credible study and re-test of OLED burn-in for static images, I'm not jumping. So far there is good reason not to put it in a monitor.
4k 21,6 is indeed non sense but I have no problems with a 21,6 sized screen tbh. Altho I never really lovef 24' or 25', always seemed a bit big for me and I use it really far, as max as my desk allows.

I agree with oled concerns tho. Fanboys will deny it with the usual "I have an oled tv for 3 centuries and it never got burn in, so my situation means burn in is a myth".

But burn in is indeed still a problem as shown by rtings experiments on their website and specially on a pc monitor connected for hours with static images.
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#4
atomicus
This just makes no sense. At all. Where's the market for such a small monitor? 1080p gamers are budget conscious by nature. That is why the vast majority are at that resolution. These monitors will not be cheap, not even close. So who's going to buy them exactly? 4K at 22"? You're kidding right? You have to squint at 27" with 150% scaling!!

And as mentioned, to deny OLED burn-in is tantamount to denying climate change. It exists, end of.
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#5
Manu_PT
atomicus, post: 3965192, member: 155807"
This just makes no sense. At all. Where's the market for such a small monitor? 1080p gamers are budget conscious by nature. That is why the vast majority are at that resolution. These monitors will not be cheap, not even close. So who's going to buy them exactly? 4K at 22"? You're kidding right? You have to squint at 27" with 150% scaling!!

And as mentioned, to deny OLED burn-in is tantamount to denying climate change. It exists, end of.
Sadly... because otherwise Oled is amazing!

Is a shame every panel technology still has flaws.

TN: awful colours, contrast
IPS: ips glow, higher response time starts to be noticeable
VA: bad viewing angles
Oled: burn-in
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#6
TheLostSwede
atomicus, post: 3965192, member: 155807"
This just makes no sense. At all. Where's the market for such a small monitor? 1080p gamers are budget conscious by nature. That is why the vast majority are at that resolution. These monitors will not be cheap, not even close. So who's going to buy them exactly? 4K at 22"? You're kidding right? You have to squint at 27" with 150% scaling!!

And as mentioned, to deny OLED burn-in is tantamount to denying climate change. It exists, end of.
May I suggest you go see an optician? I have no problem using a 4K 27" in screen at 125% scaling without squinting.
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#7
RH92
I have always said that im good with my Samsung 27" 4K TN panel untill Oled enters the arena of PC monitors and im glad to see this will finally happen ! Sure Oled is not flawless but it will be a true upgrade compared to the existing technologies .
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#8
Sasqui
Finally, finally, finally... The chemistry is improving, though my Galaxy S7 has noticeable burn-in, mostly on the notification bar and the stupid Samsung default white keyboard (that I later changed) . Lots of strategies to keep static images off screen including pixel shifting and very advanced power saving like turning off the screen when a user isn't detected in front of it. Strangely, my DROID Razr Maxx HD OLED screen stayed strong for several years.

Maybe 2019 will be the year of the OLED folding screen tablet and OLED PC monitors.
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#9
Vya Domus
Burn-in has mostly been fixed, not a big issue there. The main problem is, these things are going to be mind boggling expensive.

And by the way, even IPS screens can have burn-in (or rather "image retention", same problem different label ), surprise surprise.
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#10
FrustratedGarrett
Vya Domus, post: 3965245, member: 169281"
Burn-in has mostly been fixed, not a big issue there. The main problem is, these things are going to be mind boggling expensive.

And by the way, even IPS screens can have burn-in (or rather "image retention", same problem different label ), surprise surprise.
Burn-in is a bigger issue with OLED displays. There are however every effective workarounds that can be programmed into the display controller to eliminate it. I've been waiting on a good IPS monitor to upgrade from my current MVA monitor.
BTW, DO NOT GET an MVA/VA monitor! Black crush, which is a problem wherein dark/ish shades are clipped to black is a serious issue that VA-type panels suffer from! I haven't come across a VA monitor that doesn't have black crush.
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#11
Lightning
Dell U2414H is very good for long hours spent gaming at 60Hz, browsing or watching movies. If you're pretentious with yer framerates, then it's not good. It says it has 8ms response time, but I've had TNs with 8ms and they had ghosting. The Dell does not. You also don't get a headache from using it for long.
As much as I love oled for its IQ, I'm not going back to 21 inches.
And I have LEDs with burn in at work. They have TN panels.
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#12
goldman
Manu_PT, post: 3965200, member: 168799"
Sadly... because otherwise Oled is amazing!

Is a shame every panel technology still has flaws.

TN: awful colours, contrast
IPS: ips glow, higher response time starts to be noticeable
VA: bad viewing angles
Oled: burn-in
i'm waiting for some news of micro-led.
still exited for some oled news, hopefully they are not too expensive
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#13
Vayra86
FrustratedGarrett, post: 3965254, member: 131760"
Burn-in is a bigger issue with OLED displays. There are however every effective workarounds that can be programmed into the display controller to eliminate it. I've been waiting on a good IPS monitor to upgrade from my current MVA monitor.
BTW, DO NOT GET an MVA/VA monitor! Black crush, which is a problem wherein dark/ish shades are clipped to black is a serious issue that VA-type panels suffer from! I haven't come across a VA monitor that doesn't have black crush.
Correct, but black crush can be eliminated with proper calibration - most of it at least. At the same time, many TN panels also tend to have a slight tone crush somewhere along the curve (backlight has a much bigger influence here). IPS does not, but it also offers lower contrast and it can glow. Black is the hardest nut to crack for ANY tech - except OLED.

My Eizo FG2421 offers a black level slider alongside the usual ones to facilitate that. Not sure about the more recent VA's, but they also consistently offer a lower static contrast (which is the big selling point it has) of up to 3000:1.

Every panel tech is a tradeoff in some way and therefore each has its use case. For VA, color critical work is certainly not one of them :)
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#14
The Von Matrices
I am happy that some company is taking up the cause of OLED PC displays. I specifically bought my Alienware 13 R3 laptop for its OLED screen, and I still have yet to find a display with better image quality. Usually you get used to the PC monitors you own and they no longer look special after a few weeks, but I honestly still have a "wow" moment every time I switch from using my desktop PC with LCDs to the OLED laptop.

And regarding burn-in, I have had no indications of any burn-in on this laptop over the past 18 months. I have the Windows taskbar set to hide automatically as a precaution, but other than that I haven't changed any settings. Displaying a blank white screen I still see a uniform image. So I think that unless you have the monitor displaying a static image 24/7, the burn-in issue is overrated.
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#15
silentbogo
TheLostSwede, post: 3965211, member: 3382"
May I suggest you go see an optician? I have no problem using a 4K 27" in screen at 125% scaling without squinting.
I'm on 24" 4K. Probably the best upgrade I've had since Nehalem times.
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#17
TristanX
OLED tech is great for creating prototypes that will never go into production and sales
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#18
Kohl Baas
Vayra86, post: 3965136, member: 152404"
And 4K on that size is even more dafuq-worthy.
Samsung,Apple and other phone/tablet sales tells otherwise. How's that possible you think 4K on 21" is a nonsens but 1080p+ on 4-10" are good? Why nobody protesting to get its 480x320 phone back? What a nonsense...

I mean, c'mon! You don't have to see all pixels one by one, you just need an image as smooth as possible.
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#19
ZoneDymo
MicroLED when?
And also, somebody pls revive Lazorscreen tech
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#20
lynx29
useless. best to wait for Micro LED and NANO IPS to improve.
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#21
goldman
lynx29, post: 3965363, member: 153071"
useless. best to wait for Micro LED and NANO IPS to improve.
isn't nano ips basically quantum dot?
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#22
TheGuruStud
eidairaman1, post: 3965340, member: 40556"
Burnin nightmare
You'd have to set auto turn off at 5 mins to not be paranoid.
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#25
lynx29
goldman, post: 3965465, member: 181832"
Ooh, thanks. Still, Micro-LED is pretty different from nano IPS, one is an enhancement to LCD tech and the other is basically a whole new tech, kinda closer to oled(in the sense that each pixel has it's own light and can be turned on and off)
micro LED won't even be affordable / high refresh readily available until 2022, there are no factories even capable of producing it mass scale yet to my knowledge. why talk about something so far away? nano IPS already has one monitor for sale and it has great reviews / no backlight issues like older IPS variants, and personally I think the colors look better in IPS than VA, so nano IPS is probably going to be my next monitor. my hat is off to LG for bringing the improved tech so fast to market.
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