Wednesday, January 16th 2019

NVIDIA Readies GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Based on TU116, Sans RTX

It looks like RTX technology won't make it to sub-$250 market segments as the GPUs aren't fast enough to handle real-time raytracing, and it makes little economic sense for NVIDIA to add billions of additional transistors for RT cores. The company is hence carving out a sub-class of "Turing" GPUs under the TU11x ASIC series, which will power new GeForce GTX family SKUs, such as the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti, and other GTX 1000-series SKUs. These chips offer "Turing Shaders," which are basically CUDA cores that have the IPC and clock-speeds rivaling existing "Turing" GPUs, but no RTX capabilities. To sweeten the deal, NVIDIA will equip these cards with GDDR6 memory. These GPUs could still have tensor cores which are needed to accelerate DLSS, a feature highly relevant to this market segment.

The GeForce GTX 1660 Ti will no doubt be slower than the RTX 2060, and be based on a new ASIC codenamed TU116. According to a VideoCardz report, this 12 nm chip packs 1,536 CUDA cores based on the "Turing" architecture, and the same exact memory setup as the RTX 2060, with 6 GB of GDDR6 memory across a 192-bit wide memory interface. The lack of RT cores and a lower CUDA core count could make the TU116 a significantly smaller chip than the TU106, and something NVIDIA can afford to sell at sub-$300 price-points such as $250. The GTX 1060 6 GB is holding the fort for NVIDIA in this segment, besides other GTX 10-series SKUs such as the GTX 1070 occasionally dropping below the $300 mark at retailers' mercy. AMD recently improved its sub-$300 portfolio with the introduction of Radeon RX 590, which convincingly outperforms the GTX 1060 6 GB.
Source: VideoCardz
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64 Comments on NVIDIA Readies GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Based on TU116, Sans RTX

#51
Casecutter
NxodusI gladly take an FPS hit in exchange for immersive and realistic graphics/shadows
That is such Blaspheme if coming from the mouth of an NVidia'n!

How the Times they are Chang'n!
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#52
lexluthermiester
Vayra86BWAAAAHHHahahaa surely this can't be true. Surely Huang isn't thát desperate. Surely RTX will live longer than one gen?

Wait, its actually happening :eek: Not even repurposed Pascal but actual Turing shaders with adaptations. I guess you can do that when money is no object?

So, RTX OFF it is, then. If you're still a believer that it will gain traction like this, what can I say. Damn, its a good day.
Good grief you're laying it on thick. Gonna need some hip-boots in a minute..
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#53
XXL_AI
I can work with 1080, even 1070 on my deep learning servers, what is the point of spending more for ... 1660Ti? and what kind of naming is this? isn't it supposed to be 1160 Ti?
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#54
T4C Fantasy
CPU & GPU DB Maintainer
Nxodussource: VideoCardz

ah ok, fake news then
well Videocardz isnt fake news as they have reliable sources too, and companies allowing them to leak stuff.
personally i dont believe the naming of 1660, but i dont really care tbh.
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#55
PLSG08
willaceMost of the time people just look at number, so no.......that would not be a good idea
I mean in this case a buyer (for example with no background on PC parts) could simply ask a seller "These are both 2060s, but one is more expensive than the other, why is that?" and the seller can just simply explain to them the difference of the GTX 2060 and an RTX 2060.

Really they're over complicating a simple problem. As much as i like Nvidia, they're just confusing the consumers now with a boatload of product stacks w/ different configs.
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#56
biffzinker
PerfectWaveit is funny they still make gpu without rtx and they wanna push RTX ON LOL
Performance intensive even with dedicated hardware-based units would be why. Farther away from the high end the product stack goes the less it makes any sense to tie up valuable die space.
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#57
darkassassinbg
Guys Should i wait for 1660 or whatever they call it/navi or just go for rx 580 8g
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#58
Vayra86
darkassassinbgGuys Should i wait for 1660 or whatever they call it/navi or just go for rx 580 8g
Its another midrange offering, so it won't change the game a whole lot I think. It will put pressure on pricing at best, the question for you is probably: can I wait and maybe save 30-50 bucks? That is - IF this rumor is even true.
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#59
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
Vayra86Remember, you're looking at a company whose stock price took a nosedive this year and set them back to 2H2017. All bets are off.
Vayra86Its another midrange offering, so it won't change the game a whole lot I think. It will put pressure on pricing at best, the question for you is probably: can I wait and maybe save 30-50 bucks? That is - IF this rumor is even true.
Yeah, if you had stock when it nosedived. If you bought when it hit ~130, there is actually a good chance that it will go back up, particularly if revenue targets are hit (which were lowered after last quarter's lackluster numbers which makes it that much more likely.) Honestly, they only reason they're doing this is because there is a market for it. If they sell, which I'm sure they will, their stock will continue to climb.
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#60
NicklasAPJ
GungarBecause you really think there is going to have another RTX fiasco? xD Intel is coming for next gen Nvidia if they continue with RTX it's over for them.
Over? What do you mean, every time a company get a RTX 2080 TI in stock, they are sold out in less than 1 hour. It so sick. they earn more money than ever.
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#61
Fluffmeister
Indeed, the 2080 Ti is what... 85% faster than the best the competiton currently offers @ 4K? The Radeon VII will claw some performance back but that is likely to still be 50%+ behind.
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#62
Prince Valiant
NicklasAPJOver? What do you mean, every time a company get a RTX 2080 TI in stock, they are sold out in less than 1 hour. It so sick. they earn more money than ever.
It means next to nothing without knowing how many cards were stocked before selling out.
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#63
Sybaris_Caesar
kingsIf it brings GTX 1070 performance or near that level for $250, Nvidia could have a massive winner on this one!
Why? Isn't that the expectation from every new generation card? (apart from AMD) New gen card would be cheaper and still outperform last gen's more expensive card, that's what we've been all expecting thus far for so many years. Why only now it's "SO AWESOME" if cheaper cards match performance of two year old expensive card?
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#64
Anymal
Not on 12nm, 7nm will be diff story.
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