Monday, June 10th 2019

AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT Slide Leaked: Picture and Specs

Ahead of its official reveal at AMD's E3 2019 keynote scheduled for 3 PM (Pacific) later today, VideoCardz scored a key slide that spills the beans on AMD's next performance-segment graphics card, the Radeon RX 5700 XT. This card is based on the 7 nm "Navi 10" silicon, and is its "XT" (maxed-out) SKU. Its reference-design board design in the slide reveals a return to a lateral-blower type cooling solution that now has a prettier cooler shroud with silver ridges and Radeon logos on two sides, one of which is illuminated, with a possible RGB LED accent that runs along the top of the card.

The specifications revealed point to 40 compute units. Unless AMD changed the stream processor count per CU with the RDNA architecture from 64, this works out to 2,560 stream processors. When combined with a stellar engine boost frequency of up to 1905 MHz, the GPU has a compute throughput of 9.75 TFLOP/s, which is 37 percent higher than that of the RX 590, but 27 percent lower than the Radeon VII, and roughly similar to the RX Vega 56. The RX 5700 XT is armed with 8 GB of GDDR6 memory, although the slide won't mention memory clock-speeds or bandwidth. AMD may disclose pricing and availability in its keynote address later today.
Source: VideoCardz
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52 Comments on AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT Slide Leaked: Picture and Specs

#1
Crackong
9.75 TFLOPS right between Vega 56 and the 590.
Hope this is a $279 part.
Acceptable for $299.
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#2
rvalencia
8 GB GDDR6 indicates 256 bit bus with nearly twice the bandwidth. Higher clock speed benefits raster hardware such as geometry-raster engines and ROPS read/write units.
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#3
Metroid
Crackong, post: 4061907, member: 185495"
9.75 TFLOPS right between Vega 56 and the 590.
Hope this is a $279 part.
Acceptable for $299.
Vega 56 is being sold for $200 second hand market. AMD has to do better than that. I'm more for the 5700 xt x nvidia super rtx 2060 at moment, 256bit at $299. If 5700 xt can win on power consumption by 30% and yet be 10% short in performance, then I'm sold. I guess the 5800 xt is towards the $499 if indeed matches super rtx 2070 while using a lot less power.

And by the way vega has always been a failed product in my opinion, too much power for too low fps, I'm looking for efficiency and if amd delievers that with navi then I'm sold.
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#4
Vayra86
Smells like another GTX 1080 equivalent, or just shy of it. You almost need hands and feet to count them all.

This is just about as interesting as watching paint dry.
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#5
jigar2speed
Metroid, post: 4061914, member: 178915"
Vega 56 is being sold for $200 second hand market. AMD has to do better than that.
Is AMD selling used RX 5700 XT ? Do you even think for a second before posting ? All your other wish list proves you are not looking for RX 5700 XT.
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#6
Melvis
Didnt AMD's Keynote say the 5700 matched the 2070 in performance?
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#7
Metroid
jigar2speed, post: 4061926, member: 103592"
Is AMD selling used RX 5700 XT ? Do you even think for a second before posting ? All your other wish list proves you are not looking for RX 5700 XT.
Why is that so wrong? If amd does not come up with something better than a vega 56 performance wise while having a higher price than it, it will not work. People will prefer to buy a $200 vega 56 gpu than the 5700 xt at $299. Samething can be said about 1080 ti x 2070, people rather buy a 1080 ti for $400 than the 2070 at $500.

They get 10% more performance with the 1080 ti and yet pay 25% less for the 1080 ti, it's a no brainer.



Melvis, post: 4061934, member: 50520"
Didnt AMD's Keynote say the 5700 matched the 2070 in performance?
Well amd never said it was a 5700 xt, they said it was navi and since we have known for sometime that only 2 skus will come out at this 07/07 launch then we could assume that is the powerful navi and that is not 5700 xt, more likely 5800 xt.
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rvalencia
Metroid, post: 4061936, member: 178915"
Why is that so wrong? If amd does not come up with something better than a vega 56 performance wise while having a higher price than it, it will not work. People will prefer to buy a $200 vega 56 gpu than the 5700 xt at $299. Samething can be said about 1080 ti x 2070, people rather buy a 1080 ti for $400 than the 2070 at $500.

They get 10% more performance with the 1080 ti and yet pay 25% less for the 1080 ti, it's a no brainer.


Well amd never said it was a 5700 xt, they said it was navi and since we have known for sometime that only 2 skus will come out at this 07/07 launch then we could assume that is the powerful navi and that is not 5700 xt, more likely 5800 xt.
With Strange Brigade, RX 5700 is 10 percent faster than RTX 2070.



RX 5700 being 10 percent faster than RTX 2070 would land on 61.93 fps, hence RX 5700 slightly faster than Vega 64 AC.

Impacts from other benchmarks with Unreal Engine 4 and RX 5700 remains to be seen.
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#9
Metroid
rvalencia, post: 4061950, member: 99935"
With Strange Brigade, RX 5700 is 10 percent faster than RTX 2070.

RX 5700 being 10 percent faster than RTX 2070 would land on 61.93 fps, hence RX 5700 slightly faster than Vega 64 AC.

Impacts from other benchmarks with Unreal Engine 4 and RX 5700 remains to be seen.
I have not seen that leak yet, 5700 xt 10% faster than 2070, if is indeed 10% faster then I see no reason for amd to price it at $299, or maybe is 10% faster here and 30% slower on others things. I mean pricing things need to be cautious, lisa is after high margins.
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#11
rvalencia
Metroid, post: 4061951, member: 178915"
I have not seen that leak yet, 5700 xt 10% faster than 2070, if is indeed 10% faster then I see no reason for amd to price it at $299, or maybe is 10% faster here and 30% slower on others things. I mean pricing things need to be cautious, lisa is after high margins.
From https://www.pcgamer.com/au/amd-claims-navi-based-radeon-rx-5700-is-10-percent-faster-than-an-rtx-2070/
AMD claims Navi-based Radeon RX 5700 is 10% faster than an RTX 2070 with Strange Brigade, hence RX 5700 is acting like Vega 64 OC.
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#12
Vya Domus
Vayra86, post: 4061916, member: 152404"
This is just about as interesting as watching paint dry.
And what would have been interesting ? It's a midrange card what did you expect it to do, crush a 2080ti ?
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#13
nemesis.ie
@Metroid Vega is not as bad as people claim. E.g. in DOOM (2016) at 1440p/60 (solidly locked at 60) my Vega 56 system (2700X, 32GB 3333MHz) uses a total of 150-180W - yes, for the entire system. I don't think that's bad at all.

Actually, while it would be more work, I'd love to see sites add "capped benchmarks", e.g. at 60, 120, 144 and 240Hz at the various resolutions with Radeon Chill (and NV equivalent) enabled and also show total system consumption.

Different CPUs seem to interact differently with different GPUs and isn't total system consumption the more important metric? While playing the games you want to play on your res/refresh rate?

Likewise, HDR added to the mix.
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#14
xkm1948
Looks slick! New stuff is always good.
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#15
Metroid
nemesis.ie, post: 4061975, member: 22637"
@Metroid Vega is not as bad as people claim. E.g. in DOOM (2016) at 1440p/60 (solidly locked at 60) my Vega 56 system (2700X, 32GB 3333MHz) uses a total of 150-180W - yes, for the entire system. I don't think that's bad at all.

Actually, while it would be more work, I'd love to see sites add "capped benchmarks", e.g. at 60, 120, 144 and 240Hz at the various resolutions with Radeon Chill (and NV equivalent) enabled and also show total system consumption.

Different CPUs seem to interact differently with different GPUs and isn't total system consumption the more important metric? While playing the games you want to play on your res/refresh rate?

Likewise, HDR added to the mix.
It's only true if you mod the bios and play with memory and core settings for everything you want it to work but that is kind non average joe things to do hehe, for example, some advanced users used it for mining and when done properly, used to use around 200 watts, efficiency was even better than polaris on many algorithms.
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#16
nemesis.ie
No, what I posted is with stock Wattman in the lastest drivers with Chill on and FRTC set to my monitor's max of 60. No BIOS modding.

I also did some mining on another system (V64) and got good results just using Wattman without BIOS mods being needed.
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#17
zlobby
So, what exactly are the selling points of this card and its SKU?

Not knowing price, power consumption and video encode/decode capabilities, there is hardly anything to be excited about.
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#18
nemesis.ie
It's futile debating this further IMO when the actual reveal should happen in about 10hrs.
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#19
Darmok N Jalad
If it doesn’t use HBM and doesn’t need a huge amount of power, I think they have a good chance at pricing this competitively. I think this card is all about right-sizing their mid-range into a card that is more profitable.
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#20
Metroid
nemesis.ie, post: 4062000, member: 22637"
No, what I posted is with stock Wattman in the lastest drivers with Chill on and FRTC set to my monitor's max of 60. No BIOS modding.

I also did some mining on another system (V64) and got good results just using Wattman without BIOS mods being needed.
amd changed its drivers sometime ago, bios mods is not needed like used to.

nemesis.ie, post: 4062006, member: 22637"
It's futile debating this further IMO when the actual reveal should happen in about 10hrs.
Very true. I wonder if it will be more skus at launch than the known 2 at moment.

Darmok N Jalad, post: 4062007, member: 170588"
If it doesn’t use HBM and doesn’t need a huge amount of power, I think they have a good chance at pricing this competitively. I think this card is all about right-sizing their mid-range into a card that is more profitable.
That is what I think too.
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#21
BorgOvermind
Looks quite powerful for its designation. Hope the price is acceptable too. If so, they have a goodie.
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#22
cucker tarlson
Anyone waiting for this should have bought Vega 56 pulse with a bundle when they went for 300.
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#23
Vayra86
Vya Domus, post: 4061959, member: 169281"
And what would have been interesting ? It's a midrange card what did you expect it to do, crush a 2080ti ?
Place this in the context of every leaked slide being 'news' and the wild claims weve heard over the past years about Navi. The hype has already cooled down a bit, but still people are living on hopes and dreams it will make waves somehow.

What it really is, is a major letdown hidden beneath fancy branding and big words about a revamp. Its a damn shame and AMD is not being honest about it (RDNA BS - named today but actually in place with Navi 20, or so they say, the biggest achievement is finally moving to sensible VRAM chips). Commercially it makes sense they dont say its the same shit shrunk a bit; But still. Progress is grinding to a complete halt.
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#25
Midland Dog
Crackong, post: 4061907, member: 185495"
9.75 TFLOPS right between Vega 56 and the 590.
Hope this is a $279 part.
Acceptable for $299.
but really priced at 499 because good guy amd is just as scummy as everyone else
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