Wednesday, July 3rd 2019

NVIDIA Manufacturing Turing GPUs at Samsung Korea Fab, 11nm?

During our disassembly of the GeForce RTX 2060 Super, we noticed a shocking detail. The 12 nm "TU106" GPU on which it is based, has the marking "Korea." We know for a fact that TSMC does not have any fabs there. The only Korean semiconductor manufacturer capable of contract-manufacturing a piece of silicon as complex as a GPU, for a designer with the energy-efficiency OCD as NVIDIA, is Samsung.

What makes this interesting is that Samsung does not officially have a 12 nm FinFET process. It has 14 nm, and the 11LPP, a 11 nm nodelet, which the company designed to compete with TSMC 12 nm. It would hence be really interesting to hear from NVIDIA on whether they've scaled out the "TU106" to 14LPP, or down to 11LPP at Samsung. It's interesting to note that the shrink in transistor sizes in these nodelets doesn't affect die-sizes. We hence see no die-size difference between these Korea-marked chips, and those marked "Taiwan." We've reached out to NVIDIA for comment.

Update July 3rd: NVIDIA got back to us
NVIDIAThe answer is really simple and these markings are not new. Other Turing GPUs have had these markings in the past. The chip is made at TSMC, but packaged in various locations. This one was done in Korea, hence why his says "Korea".

On an unrelated note: We already use both TSMC and Samsung, and qualify each of them for every process node. We can't comment in any further detail on future plans, but both remain terrific partners.
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33 Comments on NVIDIA Manufacturing Turing GPUs at Samsung Korea Fab, 11nm?

#26
EarthDog
Leaving again is always in the back of my mind. I take so little away from it outside of frustration with humanity.

I digress. :)
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#27
Th3pwn3r
EarthDogLeaving again is always in the back of my mind. I take so little away from it outside of frustration with humanity.

I digress. :)
Honestly, if this forum makes you mad then you're better off not here.
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#28
Anymal
As long as its not North Korea, its ok.
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#29
DeathtoGnomes
If Nvidia ever answered truthfully to such a query, this would be it.... :banghead:
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#30
R-T-B
EarthDogLeaving again is always in the back of my mind. I take so little away from it outside of frustration with humanity.
You are taking it too seriously. Picture everyone as frog food/small insects running away from you screaming. It helps me.
Th3pwn3rHonestly, if this forum makes you mad then you're better off not here.
That's it. It doesn't. I just don't care anymore. I'm here to talk hardware and laugh. You guys acting like clowns half the time only helps that goal. :laugh:
AnymalAs long as its not North Korea, its ok.
Let's play low standards limbo!
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#31
AsRock
TPU addict
jabbadapAll chips comes from TSMC 12nm FFN node. That etching is marking where packaging has been made(Korea or Taiwan). I.E. gp107 samsung chip cards are usually packaged in Taiwan.
Maybe, just maybe Samsung are just stamping them, and Taiwan is avoiding some tariffs ?.
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#32
Th3pwn3r
R-T-BYou are taking it too seriously. Picture everyone as frog food/small insects running away from you screaming. It helps me.



That's it. It doesn't. I just don't care anymore. I'm here to talk hardware and laugh. You guys acting like clowns half the time only helps that goal. :laugh:



Let's play low standards limbo!
I didn't mean anything bad by my post. I learned myself I was better off staying off body building .com forums. Less is more sometimes...I had like 10,000 posts on there.
R-T-BYou are taking it too seriously. Picture everyone as frog food/small insects running away from you screaming. It helps me.



That's it. It doesn't. I just don't care anymore. I'm here to talk hardware and laugh. You guys acting like clowns half the time only helps that goal. :laugh:



Let's play low standards limbo!
I didn't mean anything bad by my post. I learned myself I was better off staying off body building .com forums. Less is more sometimes...I had like 10,000 posts on there.
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#33
jabbadap
AsRockMaybe, just maybe Samsung are just stamping them, and Taiwan is avoiding some tariffs ?.
It probably does not have anything to do with Samsung, even if it reads Korea(well of course all gp107 and gp108 are made by Samsung´s 14nm manufacturing process). Nvidia uses couple of IC packaging companies like Taiwanese ASE and SPIL. Even that Korean based IC packager might be Taiwanese. But yeah, either way that etching is made by IC packager, not by chip foundry.
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