Thursday, July 25th 2019

Silicon Lottery Starts Selling Binned 3rd Generation AMD Ryzen CPUs

Silicon Lottery, a company specializing in the process called binning which involves testing of CPUs for particular features (overclocking potential in this case), has released its portfolio of 3rd generation of Ryzen CPUs. As of now, they are offering only Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 models, covering Ryzen 7 3700X, 3800X and Ryzen 9 3900X. Ryzen 9 3950X is said to be introduced in September and that is the date Silicon Lottery will reveal the information about overclocking potential of that model and frequencies they have achieved. Mid range Ryzen 5 models should be added at later date as well.
They have achieved the following frequencies at targeted voltage and price:

Ryzen 7 3700X
  • 4.05 GHz @ 1.237 V, $300
  • 4.10 GHz @ 1.25 V, $320
  • 4.15 GHz @ 1.26 V, $340
Ryzen 7 3800X
  • 4.20 GHz @ 1.275 V, $370
  • 4.25 GHz @ 1.287 V, $430
  • 4.30 GHz @ 1.300 V, $610
Ryzen 9 3900X
  • 4.00 GHz @ 1.200 V, $470
  • 4.05 GHz @ 1.212 V, $500
  • 4.10 GHz @ 1.225 V, $530
  • 4.15 GHz @ 1.237 V, $590
  • 4.20 GHz @ 1.25 V, $810
It is interesting to note that Ryzen 9 3900X has achieved better frequencies at lower core Voltage than Ryzen 7 3800X. That is possibly due to better binning AMD does on its side for higher end models. For more information about the current lineup of AMD's 3rd generation Ryzen CPUs, you can check out Silicon Lottery's website.
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92 Comments on Silicon Lottery Starts Selling Binned 3rd Generation AMD Ryzen CPUs

#76
Wasspord
No thanks i don’t want to be scammed again by this company.
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#77
GlacierNine
Wasspord, post: 4091265, member: 189466"
No thanks i don’t want to be scammed again by this company.
Could you please explain exactly what your issue is with SiliconLottery? Nobody here has any idea what on earth you're referring to, since you have only one post on TPU. Ever.
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#78
EarthDog
Boy, they're coming out in droves, those who do not know the definition of a scam, eh?
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#79
megamanxtreme
GlacierNine, post: 4091266, member: 174559"
Could you please explain exactly what your issue is with SiliconLottery? Nobody here has any idea what on earth you're referring to, since you have only one post on TPU. Ever.
This is coming after some posters being customers and giving positives about the site. Please share why @Wasspord
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#80
GlacierNine
EarthDog, post: 4091268, member: 79836"
Boy, they're coming out in droves, those who do not know the definition of a scam, eh?
I mean, the possibility exists that this *isn't* a Wavetrex alt-account, and that he actually did something like, say, pay for a product he never received.

But I doubt it. My suspicion is more along the lines of him having not followed the QVL and thus trying to overclock a chip on the wrong voltage or on a board that doesn't have a good enough VRM to support the advertised clocks.

Reminder for all, SiliconLottery publically state that which hardware they've verified their overclocks to work with, and at what settings
This CPU is guaranteed stable with the following parameters when using matching components from our QVL. We go through a rigorous stress test routine to ensure stability for the vast majority of use cases.

CPU Multiplier: 42.0
BCLK: 100.0
CPU Vcore: 1.250V
Depending on your motherboard, you may need to adjust your Load Line Calibration (LLC) level to make sure the voltage set is being held under load.
- https://siliconlottery.com/pages/amd-matisse
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#81
Wasspord
I bought at silicon lottery a 9900k binned for 5ghz which turned out to be a processor that can not go above 4.9Ghz without becoming unstable.
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#82
ratirt
Wasspord, post: 4091278, member: 189466"
I bought at silicon lottery a 9900k binned for 5ghz which turned out to be a processor that can not go above 4.9Ghz without becoming unstable.
Even if you buy from SiliconLottery, it doesn't mean you don't need a sufficient cooling (liquid) and you may need to bump the voltage a bit to achieve given frequency. Did you know that?
It means that there's still work involved to achieve this higher frequency and tweaks are required. SiliconLottery guarantees only, that these clocks are achievable and stable the rest is all you.
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#83
GlacierNine
Wasspord, post: 4091278, member: 189466"
I bought at silicon lottery a 9900k binned for 5ghz which turned out to be a processor that can not go above 4.9Ghz without becoming unstable.
OK, well Silicon lottery's 9900K pages state that you should be able to achieve those clocks with -
  • CPU Multiplier: 50
  • BCLK: 100.0
  • CPU Vcore: 1.300V
  • AVX Offset: 2
A 240mm AIO, and one of the following motherboards:

ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 9
ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming X
ASRock Z390 Taichi
ASRock Z390 Taichi Ultimate
ASUS Z370 ROG Maximus X Apex
ASUS Z390 ROG Maximus XI Apex
ASUS Z390 ROG Maximus XI Code
ASUS Z390 ROG Maximus XI Extreme
ASUS Z390 ROG Maximus XI Gene
ASUS Z390 ROG Maximus XI Hero
ASUS Z390 ROG Maximus XI Formula
Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite
Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Xtreme
Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master
Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro
Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra
Gigabyte Z390 Designare


So can you tell me, did your rig and your settings match these?
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#84
Wasspord
QVL ok
Cooling ok
I know what overclocking is, I did not rank in the hall of fame 3Dmark for no reason with my last PC...
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#85
GlacierNine
Wasspord, post: 4091293, member: 189466"
QVL ok
Cooling ok
I know what overclocking is, I did not rank in the hall of fame 3Dmark for no reason with my last PC...
I'm not really interested in your last rig. What specific hardware and settings did you use with this chip? Did you apply the AVX offset they specified? Did you manage your BCLK so that it was actually 100? Many motherboard vendors have been fishing for extra performance recently via "aggressive" BCLK numbers unless the user specifies the clock exactly.
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#86
EarthDog
Wasspord, post: 4091293, member: 189466"
QVL ok
Cooling ok
I know what overclocking is, I did not rank in the hall of fame 3Dmark for no reason with my last PC...
If it isn't hwbot, it's not a worthwhile ranking. All you need to do is overclock a little to hit 3dm's rank.
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#87
Wasspord
I do overclocking for pleasure not professionally.
By buying on silicon lottery, I told myself that I would pay more for having picked chip not an averrage chip.
I already check all the settings with a silicon lottery person who accepted a refund or an RMA.
Except that I already paid customs clearance about 120 € and that for the RMA the transport is my duty.
I'm going to keep this chip ...
For information here are my components, so that you seem interested.
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#88
GlacierNine
So hang on then.

You bought a product, couldn't get it to work as advertised, the vendor accepted a return/RMA. Exactly where in this sequence of events did you get "scammed" ? Because you decided that the carriage/import/export costs involved in sending something back to another continent weren't worth your time?

Also in terms of those settings you're so confident about, here's what isn't in that screenshot of yours:

1 - Actual VCore (VID is visible but that is not VCore)
2 - Whether your voltage in UEFI is set to Manual, Adaptive, or Offset
3 - AVX Offset
4 - What you have set for Load Line Calibration

Technically it's also not visible whether the memory you're using is 3200MHz Single Rank (It is, but I had to google a review of that specific kit to confirm it), or whether you've adjusted your BCLK to exactly 100 (Although we can infer that you have from some of the other numbers on show).

It's still entirely possible from that screenshot alone that it's a setting of yours not being correct that is actually the issue, but even if that were the case, the vendor accepted a return and it was your choice not to take them up on the offer. SiliconLottery aren't responsible for your costs incurred in importing or exporting something, so they're not scamming you. You're just running into an unfortunate fact about ordering products from the other side of the world - there can be additional costs incurred when you need support.

Case closed, verdict: NOT SCAMMED.

NEXT!
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#89
yotano211
26th
Wasspord, post: 4091293, member: 189466"
QVL ok
Cooling ok
I know what overclocking is, I did not rank in the hall of fame 3Dmark for no reason with my last PC...
26th place is not actually hall of fame.
I once place 30 something place with a Intel i7 2920xm on a laptop overclocked to 4.4ghz and stock speed nvidia 780m sli. Really....nothing to brag out.
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#90
Mister300
Big deal my 5820K does 4.3 GHz all day at 60 degrees, cost $ 279 USD NIB.
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#91
TheMadDutchDude
Not another one... you cannot compare the two chips!

Move along, people. :D
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