Thursday, September 19th 2019

Intel "Cascade Lake-X" HEDT CPU Lineup Starts at 10-core, Core i9-10900X Geekbenched

With its 10th generation Core X "Cascade Lake-X" HEDT processor series, Intel will not bother designing models with single-digit core-counts. The series is likely to start at 10 cores with the Core i9-10900X. This 10-core/20-thread processor features a quad-channel DDR4 memory interface, and comes with clock speeds of 3.70 GHz base, a 200 MHz speed-bump over the Core i9-9900X. The chip retains the mesh interconnect design and cache hierarchy of Intel's HEDT processors since "Skylake-X," with 1 MB of dedicated L2 cache per core, and 19.3 MB of shared L3 cache.

Geekbench tests run on the chip show it to perform roughly on par with the i9-9900X, with the 200 MHz speed-bump expected to marginally improve multi-threaded performance. Where the "Cascade Lake-X" silicon is expected to one-up "Skylake-X" is its support for DLBoost, an on-die fixed function hardware that multiplies matrices, improving AI DNN building and training; and pricing. Intel is expected to price its next-generation HEDT processors aggressively, to nearly double cores-per-Dollar.
Source: VideoCardz
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67 Comments on Intel "Cascade Lake-X" HEDT CPU Lineup Starts at 10-core, Core i9-10900X Geekbenched

#1
Manoa
and so it begins....
but then again I blieve it when I see it :)
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#2
GoldenX
It better bring reduced prices or Threadripper is going to eat it.
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#3
ShurikN
3900X has better scores that this 10c part by a fair margin. In both single and multi core tests.
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#4
dj-electric
GoldenX, post: 4118927, member: 160319"
It better bring reduced prices or Threadripper is going to eat it.
Threadripper will eat it. I don't like being nihilistic but i think that we're at the point of no return on this one, on this generation. The core advantage with TR will easily allow it to plow Intel's refreshed-yet-again Skylake-X CPUs where this platform is aimed at - multicore applications.

With 16C32T offering for AM4 at 750$, and a possible one for TR4 at roughly 850$~, Intel is in trouble. Zen2 is not going to give Skylake-X slack like Zen1 did in many software applications.
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#5
ratirt
ShurikN, post: 4118936, member: 140585"
3900X has better scores that this 10c part by a fair margin. In both single and multi core tests.
Yes and by a fair margin. The Multi-core is an obvious win due to 12 cores for AMD but the single-core for AMD is also amazing.
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#6
biffzinker
GoldenX, post: 4118927, member: 160319"
Threadripper is going to eat it.
Ripping threads isn't the only thing it's going to be known for ripping.
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#7
3rold
Wow, look at that IPC lol... I read some time ago that the IPC would very drastically improve, but I think it was just IPC/$

biffzinker, post: 4118969, member: 163731"
Ripping threads isn't the only thing it's going to be known for ripping.
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#8
Tomgang
Finnally this fits.
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I dont think intels 10000 series offer has Any thing better than ryzen 9 3950X, besides the 18 core maybe, but all depending on price. So far 3950X is still My choise of CPU.
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#9
theoneandonlymrk
That names crazy, I don't even know how that flows i9 10900x should have dropped the 0s.
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#10
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
btarunr, post: 4118916, member: 43587"
Intel is expected to price its next-generation HEDT processors aggressively, to nearly double cores-per-Dollar.
Thanks AMD. Also, margins must not have been that tight if they're slashing prices almost in half. :wtf:
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#11
infrared
theoneandonlymrk, post: 4118984, member: 82332"
That names crazy, I don't even know how that flows i9 10900x should have dropped the 0s.
I was thinking the same as I read the headline lol

Ten thousand nine hundred ex?
Tenty-nine hundred ex?
Or perhaps the i9 OneZeroNineZeroZero ex?

:kookoo:
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#12
Xx Tek Tip xX
Meh, Yet another 7XXX series CPU being refreshed and regurgitated.
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#13
Manoa
size is 10 or 14 ? strange the speed 3700, if intel have 8 cores at 5000 with 9900 on 14 whay only 3700 on 10 ?
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#14
Chomiq
3rold, post: 4118977, member: 71604"
Wow, look at that IPC lol... I read some time ago that the IPC would very drastically improve, but I think it was just IPC/$


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It's 14nm ###### so no surprise here.
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#15
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Aquinus, post: 4118988, member: 102461"
Thanks AMD. Also, margins must not have been that tight if they're slashing prices almost in half. :wtf:
It has gone through my head they discount their server chips up to 80%, but I don't know if that's accurate. 60% is likely accurate though.
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#16
kapone32
Unfortunately for Intel these releases are impacting them negatively in terms of perception. I think though that once they get through this current run they will give us something to remind us of why we call Intel Intel.
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#17
Chrispy_
Between Intel's power-guzzling 14nm and AMD's 7nm order backlog, the choices for the next 6 months are going to look like:

1) An empty TR4 or AM4 socket.
2) A pile of molten slag where the LGA2066 socket used to be.
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#18
Tomgang
Chrispy_, post: 4119042, member: 185623"
Between Intel's power-guzzling 14nm and AMD's 7nm order backlog, the choices for the next 6 months are going to look like:

1) An empty TR4 or AM4 socket.
2) A pile of molten slag where the LGA2066 socket used to be.
Haha so true. But please dont joke about AMD empty socket, i have already waited for way to long about some official news about ryzen 9 3950X from AMD and now that tmsc has triple the exspected delivery of 7 nm chips. I am afraid that My planned upgrade for november/december is gonna fail and might have to wait for as long as 1q2020 to get it and buying intel spaceheater is not the way to go either. The choise seems to be either Plague or cholera. I am never gonna get the chance to move on from x58. Then i try to upgrade some thing comes up every Dam time. X58 is cursed yeah that's it. I have cursed hardware:cry:
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#19
Valantar
Manoa, post: 4119018, member: 174695"
size is 10 or 14 ? strange the speed 3700, if intel have 8 cores at 5000 with 9900 on 14 whay only 3700 on 10 ?
It's 14nm. While 10nm clocks are expected to be lower (due to it being a less mature process, and less optimized for high frequencies than the n'th iteration of 14nm they're currently using), the 9900KS has a TDP of 127W, and that's just for its base clock at 4GHz. 5GHz all-core turbo is going to be close to 200. Now imagine adding even more cores to that. Then there's the extra power consumed by the added cache and the mesh bus on the HEDT chips. And then you need chips that can actually maintain those clocks - the 9900KS is a top-binned limited edition SKU, not a high quantity mass production SKU. In short: not going to happen. But the new 18-core is undoubtedly going to be an overclocking monster on ln2 just like the previous two 18-core Skylake derivatives, with perhaps a 100MHz gain or so. Yet another time.
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#20
Chrispy_
Tomgang, post: 4119119, member: 154607"
Haha so true. But please dont joke about AMD empty socket, i have already waited for way to long about some official news about ryzen 9 3950X from AMD and now that tmsc has triple the exspected delivery of 7 nm chips. I am afraid that My planned upgrade for november/december is gonna fail and might have to wait for as long as 1q2020 to get it and buying intel spaceheater is not the way to go either. The choise seems to be either Plague or cholera. I am never gonna get the chance to move on from x58. Then i try to upgrade some thing comes up every Dam time. X58 is cursed yeah that's it. I have cursed hardware:cry:
I would just buy a good AM4 board, some nice DDR4 to go in it now, and maybe an NVMe SSD - then fill the socket with a 3600 or something for the time being. When 3950X availability stops being problematic, the prices should return to MSRP and you can just sell on the 3600 to recover most of its value.

I built a test renderfarm using eight nodes of 3900X and I have another 56 3900X chips on back order since July 23rd and current ETA given how long I've been in the queue is October 4th.

Let's face it, Nehalem was a game-changer in its day but that day was 10 years ago; The upgrade to a mere 3600 will be mind-blowing, and if you're managing to cope on 4 threads, the difference between a 3600 and 3950X isn't going to be that huge anyway.
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#21
Octavean
Well, I look forward to seeing the actual independent reviews and benchmarks.

The AMD RyZen 9 3900X has 12 cores / 24 threads, 3.8GHz, base, 4.6GHz boost and L3 cache of 64MB (L1 64K). Add to that 7nm and support for PCIe 4.0.

Similarly the AMD 3950X presumably will have 16 core / 32 threads, 3.5GHz base, 4.7GHz boost and the same L3 cache of 64MB.

Personally I am waiting to see what the upcoming Threadripper release has to offer.

If Intel significantly cuts prices and increases the core / thread count while pushing the boost clock to nearly 5.0Ghz that would be something I would like to see. Doesn't mean I'll buy into it but I'll at least hear them out.

It kind of feels like Intel is beating their 14nm process like a rented mule at this point what else can they do!?!
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#22
yakk
Imo Intel probably should've just kept quite and skipped this product refresh. This just makes the CPU look worst off.
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#23
sam_86314
infrared, post: 4119014, member: 12770"
I was thinking the same as I read the headline lol

Ten thousand nine hundred ex?
Tenty-nine hundred ex?
Or perhaps the i9 OneZeroNineZeroZero ex?

:kookoo:
One-oh-nine hundred ex?

You'd think now that they finally have competition they'd start innovating. But I guess they still think their 2015 technology is better than AMD's.

Skylake is Intel's GCN I guess.
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#24
thesmokingman
Why do they even bother with HEDT anymore, they just get crushed.
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#25
Xx Tek Tip xX
thesmokingman, post: 4119194, member: 91203"
Why do they even bother with HEDT anymore, they just get crushed.
Like how AMD gets crushed in sales?
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