Thursday, February 18th 2021

NVIDIA Announces New CMP Series Specifically Designed for Cryptocurrency Mining; Caps Mining Performance on RTX 3060

This is a big one: NVIDIA has officially announced a new family of products specifically designed to satiate the demand coming from cryptocurrency mining workloads and farms. At the same time, the company has announced that the RTX 3060 launch driver will include software limitations for cryptocurrency mining workloads specifically correlated with Ethereum mining, essentially halving the maximum theoretical hashrate that could be achieved from a purely hardware perspective. The new family of products, termed CMP (Crypto Mining Processor) series, will see its products under the HX branding, and will be available in four different tiers: 30HX, 40HX, 50HX and 90HX. These products will not have any display outputs, and therefore are not applicable for gaming scenarios.

NVIDIA's stance here is that their new product will bring some justice in the overall distribution of its GeForce graphics cards, which are marketed and meant for gaming workloads. The new cryptocurrency-geared series will be distributed by NVIDIA authorized partners in the form of ASUS, Colorful, EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI, Palit, and PC Partner (more may be added down the line). There is currently no information on what silicon actually powers these graphics cards; and of course, the success of this enterprise depends on A) the driver restrictions not being limited to the RTX 3060 graphics card - it isn't clear from NVIDIA's press release if other RTX 30-series graphics cards will see the same performance cap. Even if NVIDIA did release those drivers, however, cryptocurrency miners would just opt to, well, not update them. So it is possible that NVIDIA will release a revision of the RTX 3090, RTX 3080, RTX 3070 and RTX 3060 Ti with silicon enhancements that will only work with the latest GeForce drivers - after allowing the channels to move all of their existing, cryptocurrency-enabled stock.
The other factor is, of course, pricing: miners will always look after the best price/performance ratio, even more so than gamers; and as such, the scenario can be imagined that were NVIDIA to add a tax to these products' based on their cryptocurrency mining nature, miners would still opt for GeForce products. The 30HX and 40HX will be made available in 1Q of this year, while the more powerful 50HX and 90HX will only hit retail come 2Q. NVIDIA finally did decide to take the matter into their own hands, in a move that not only accompanies their general "we're for the gamers" stance with more than words, while simultaneously insulating themselves from lawsuits targeting any possible inclusion of mining sales under their gaming division financials. I'll allow myself some emotion now: finally!

The NVIDIA Press Release follows:
We are gamers, through and through. We obsess about new gaming features, new architectures, new games and tech. We designed GeForce GPUs for gamers, and gamers are clamoring for more.

Yet NVIDIA GPUs are programmable. And users are constantly discovering new applications for them, from weather simulation and gene sequencing to deep learning and robotics. Mining cryptocurrency is one of them.

With the launch of GeForce RTX 3060 on Feb. 25, we're taking an important step to help ensure GeForce GPUs end up in the hands of gamers.

Halving Hash Rate
RTX 3060 software drivers are designed to detect specific attributes of the Ethereum cryptocurrency mining algorithm, and limit the hash rate, or cryptocurrency mining efficiency, by around 50 percent.

That only makes sense. Our GeForce RTX GPUs introduce cutting-edge technologies — such as RTX real-time ray-tracing, DLSS AI-accelerated image upscaling technology, Reflex super-fast response rendering for the best system latency, and many more — tailored to meet the needs of gamers and those who create digital experiences.

To address the specific needs of Ethereum mining, we're announcing the NVIDIA CMP, or, Cryptocurrency Mining Processor, product line for professional mining.

CMP products — which don't do graphics — are sold through authorized partners and optimized for the best mining performance and efficiency. They don't meet the specifications required of a GeForce GPU and, thus, don't impact the availability of GeForce GPUs to gamers.

For instance, CMP lacks display outputs, enabling improved airflow while mining so they can be more densely packed. CMPs also have a lower peak core voltage and frequency, which improves mining power efficiency.

Creating tailored products for customers with specific needs delivers the best value for customers. With CMP, we can help miners build the most efficient data centers while preserving GeForce RTX GPUs for gamers.
Sources: Thanks BTA for the inputs!, NVIDIA
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118 Comments on NVIDIA Announces New CMP Series Specifically Designed for Cryptocurrency Mining; Caps Mining Performance on RTX 3060

#101
bug
P4-630

Funny thing people actually believed Nvidia did not foresee driver alterations. It's true they didn't communicate in-depth about their solution, but it's still funny to see how people's minds fill in the blanks.
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#102
windwhirl
bug
Funny thing people actually believed Nvidia did not foresee driver alterations. It's true they didn't communicate in-depth about their solution, but it's still funny to see how people's minds fill in the blanks.
I want to see if this is true. If there is some sort of validation required at the silicon level with cryptography and all, that's interesting for sure.
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#103
Warsaw
kayjay010101
Huh? Your comment is genuinely incomprehensible to me. I don't understand what you're trying to say
BTW The 3070 100% does not need more than 8GB. I have one and played at 4K and rarely got above 7GB in new AAA titles. At 1440p it's absolutely enough.
I have to disagree. I have a 6800 and play at 5120x1440 and have run into a few games that have gone above 8GB for me. BF5, 7 Days to Die, Cyberpunk are just a few I can think of off the top of my head. These are just current gen and last gen games. I wouldn't doubt in the next year or two 1440p can easily use 8GB and then some
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#104
lynx29
Warsaw
I have to disagree. I have a 6800 and play at 5120x1440 and have run into a few games that have gone above 8GB for me. BF5, 7 Days to Die, Cyberpunk are just a few I can think of off the top of my head. These are just current gen and last gen games. I wouldn't doubt in the next year or two 1440p can easily use 8GB and then some
middle earth lotr games also can use more than 8gb if you turn up settings. i also have a 6800 and its been rock solid for me. wish I had the XT though, but its all good.


on-topic: I think this move by Nvidia is still redundant, the problem is the supply and limited silicon production... all of it including the 3060 will still sell out, its a simple matter of demand and supply and these few factories that can make this stuff are also sharing their production time with other products. but eh.
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#105
Warsaw
lynx29
middle earth lotr games also can use more than 8gb if you turn up settings. i also have a 6800 and its been rock solid for me. wish I had the XT though, but its all good.


on-topic: I think this move by Nvidia is still redundant, the problem is the supply and limited silicon production... all of it including the 3060 will still sell out, its a simple matter of demand and supply and these few factories that can make this stuff are also sharing their production time with other products. but eh.
Same, mine has been great so far. One of the best cards I've owned. Efficient, incredibly quiet and looks fairly simple but sleek. I'm the same as I wish I could have gotten the XT.

Now if I could somehow get to the root of my problem with short quarter second stutters in certain games I'd be golden (usually only games that are procedurally generated it appears), like 7D2D and now Valheim.
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#106
lynx29
Warsaw
Same, mine has been great so far. One of the best cards I've owned. Efficient, incredibly quiet and looks fairly simple but sleek. I'm the same as I wish I could have gotten the XT.

Now if I could somehow get to the root of my problem with short quarter second stutters in certain games I'd be golden (usually only games that are procedurally generated it appears), like 7D2D and now Valheim.
I have had no stuttering on my end, if Valheim had a free demo I would give it a try, that is a game I plan to buy, but waiting a bit longer on it for patches. It is early access after all.

side note, I run the FPS cap 2 fps below my monitors reported refresh rate (amd drivers now have a built in fps cap limiter) so i use that, make sure vsync is off in drivers and in game, and keep freesync on and my fps limiter) its been golden for me. can def tell freesync is working, everything feels very smooth
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#107
msimax
Legacy-ZA
I was eyeing that very card to buy, it was at a very good price here at one point. The power usage put me off... lol I am sure I could have sold that bad boy for 3x the price today haha.
i would have gotten 2 but cf was dead and 5700xt was around the corner but its a beast when you unlock it
zo0lykas
for a moment all gpu price are crazy, 5months ago i sold my vega64 with water block for £160, now if we look ebay, the average price 400 and up :))
yeah i cant even find a gpu to save my life
kapone32
I knew I should have got one of those
:banghead: :)
thesmokingman
It's insane right? I sold mine recently which paid for a lot of the cost of a 3090.
that's a good flip

just tried out mining with it

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#108
lightning70
A little late move, but how efficient is 45 MH / s at 250W? It was discussed. A good price is essential for a miner to buy.
Legacy-ZA
If we don't see them @ the $330 MSRP, I don't give a damn nVidia, also you needed these limitations on the hardware level, driver limitations can always be removed/bypassed by someone smart enough. The damage has been done, we just moved within the 6th month of the launch of these products. Now I guess you will start throwing your next RTX4000 lineup in our faces while people paid through their asses just to get a little gaming card that won't even last till RTX5000, **** YOU!
Nvidia is limited to this on GPU and vBIOS, but I don't know if this can be overcome. I think this is difficult.
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#109
kayjay010101
Warsaw
I have to disagree. I have a 6800 and play at 5120x1440 and have run into a few games that have gone above 8GB for me. BF5, 7 Days to Die, Cyberpunk are just a few I can think of off the top of my head. These are just current gen and last gen games. I wouldn't doubt in the next year or two 1440p can easily use 8GB and then some
Allocated or used? Black Ops 2, a 9 year old game, says it's using 23GB on my 3090. That doesn't mean it actually uses that amount, it just simply grabs it because it's a dumb game.
I doubt any of the games you mention actually noticeably benefit from grabbing <8GB, they just allocate it. Allocated VRAM ≠ used VRAM
lightning70
A little late move, but how efficient is 45 MH / s at 250W? It was discussed. A good price is essential for a miner to buy.


Nvidia is limited to this on GPU and vBIOS, but I don't know if this can be overcome. I think this is difficult.
45 MH/s at 250W (5.55W per MH/s) is quite inefficient. A 3090 for reference can get 120MH/s at 330W (2.75W per MH/s), and that's far from the most efficient. 3060 Ti can get 60MH/s at 110W (1.83W per MH/s)
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#110
Pumper
At this point, nvidia might as well not sell any GPUs at all and just use all the available stock to build their own crypto mining farm to make an even bigger profit.
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#111
quakebox
So does that mean the nightmare of Miners buying all GPUs has ended.
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#112
bug
quakebox
So does that mean the nightmare of Miners buying all GPUs has ended.
Not yet, but there's a chance it will in the next 3-6 months.
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#113
xorbe
quakebox
So does that mean the nightmare of Miners buying all GPUs has ended.
Currently, eBay bids for 3060 Ti are US$1000-1400 for 3060 Ti ... there must be literally zero cards available. Expect 3060 to be $800 about one second after release on eBay.

eBay is flooded with "digital editions" which are just jpegs reverse scamming the bot buyers.
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#114
windwhirl
xorbe
eBay is flooded with "digital editions" which are just jpegs reverse scamming the bot buyers.
Glorious revenge lol
xorbe
Expect 3060 to be $800 about one second after release on eBay.
Damn. If I didn't need my RX 580 for my own system, I'd try to sell it and see how much I could get out of it lol
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#115
Mescalamba
msimax
i would have gotten 2 but cf was dead and 5700xt was around the corner but its a beast when you unlock it

yeah i cant even find a gpu to save my life

:banghead: :)

that's a good flip

just tried out mining with it


100 MH? Neat, what GPU is that?
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#116
msimax
Mescalamba
100 MH? Neat, what GPU is that?
radeon vii
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#117
Caring1
msimax
radeon vii
Damn, you found one that isn't broken. :laugh:
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#118
msimax
Caring1
Damn, you found one that isn't broken. :laugh:
had this since launch lol maybe im lucky but if you want one gotta spend $2000+ now
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