Tuesday, January 4th 2022

AMD CES 2022 Liveblog: Zen 3+, RDNA2 IGP, 6nm, RX 6500 XT, AM5, Zen 4 and More

Although physically away from the 2022 International CES, AMD is hosting a virtual press event to announce many new consumer products. The year's biggest tech-show allows AMD to talk about its latest, and next-generation architectures, the products it has in store for 2022, as well as introduce new technology. We expect the company to unveil "Zen 4" from a consumer perspective, its next-generation mobile processors, and much more. Stay tuned as we live-blog the event as it unfolds.

15:01 UTC: Straight away we see some big new model names:
15:02 UTC: CEO Dr Lisa Su takes centrestage.
15:02 UTC: AMD is everywhere:
15:03 UTC: This is going to be a PC-focused event.

15:03 UTC: AMD posts growth in the PC segment.
15:04 UTC: A trailer of what's to come.
15:05 UTC: AMD announcing next-gen Ryzen mobile processors, the Ryzen 6000 mobile processors
15:06 UTC: Zen 3+ CPU cores, RDNA2 graphics, 6 nm fabrication, PCIe Gen 4.

15:06 UTC: First performance claims. A massive 30% performance gain over Ryzen 5000 based on Zen 3:
15:07 UTC: Zen 3+ and 6 nm coming together for a 30% performance gain
15:08 UTC: Ryzen 6000 debuts Microsoft Pluton PSP.
15:08 UTC: 24 hours of use thanks to 6 nm
15:08 UTC: We'll finally know what the Zen 3+ secret sauce is about.

15:09 UTC: 15 new power management features that effectively blunt the hybrid core advantage?
15:10 UTC: P-core and E-core in the same core. Zen 3+ operates in E-core like power bands.

15:11 UTC: Astonishing performance gains
15:11 UTC: 30% lower power thanks to the new power management, and 6 nm node gains
15:12 UTC: AMD claims fastest iGPU crown, leveraging RDNA 2 graphics architectures: 768 stream processors, Ray tracing confirmed!
15:13 UTC: True 1080p AAA gaming. Smokes competition.
15:14 UTC: Beat MX450 dGPU.

15:14 UTC: First iGPU to leverage FidelityFX Super Resolution.

15:14 UTC: FSR enables iGPU-only 59 FPS with Far Cry 6 at 1080p!
15:16 UTC: Connectivity includes USB4 (40 Gbps), DisplayPort 2, DDR5, PCIe Gen 4, DDR5/LPDDR5 memory, and WiFi 6E/BT 5.2
15:18 UTC: Lisa Su introduces various OEMs integrating this chip, starting with the Lenovo ThinkPad Z
15:19 UTC: Over 200 gaming notebook designs in the works.
15:19 UTC: First notebooks this February

15:19 UTC: We now move on to updates to Radeon mobile GPUs

15:20 UTC: FreeSync continues to rock, with over 2000 display models

15:21 UTC: FSR now spans over 45 games:
15:22 UTC: Radeon RX 6000S, designed for low-power and compact gaming notebooks:
15:23 UTC: Even more models for the mainstream gaming
15:23 UTC: New GPU models:
15:24 UTC: Radeon RX 6500 XT for desktop, with 2.60 GHz engine clocks:
15:25 UTC: Performance claims for the RX 6500 XT:
15:25 UTC: Prices start at $199 in fantasy lands.
15:27 UTC: New generation Adrenalin software incoming.

15:28 UTC: FSR now works with every game. Radeon Super Resolution.
15:29 UTC: New Gen Adrenalin coming within Q1-2022. Privacy View is an interesting new feature, it uses eye-tracking to blur portions of the screen using shaders.
15:30 UTC: AMD finally catching up to Intel in co-engineering of products;
15:31 UTC: Smart Shift MAX, boosts performance by roping in the iGPU. Smart Shift ECO turns off your dGPU to stretch battery life.
15:33 UTC: Smart Access Graphics, 15% improved framerates when hybridizing 3D rendering.
15:34 UTC: Alienware AMD Advantage Edition:
15:35 UTC: ASUS Zephyrus G14 next-gen:
15:35 UTC: Ryzen 5000X3D based on Zen 3 with 3D Vertical Cache:
15:38 UTC: Here it is! Based on AM4
15:38 UTC: Stunning gaming performance gains, is AMD closing the gap with Intel
15:40 UTC: Core i9-12900K gaming performance matched!

15:40 UTC: Available from Spring

15:40 UTC: Zen 4 is the next big step, based on 5 nm

15:41 UTC: Here it is!
15:41 UTC: AM5 platform:
15:41 UTC: Halo Infinity shown runing on a Zen 4 protoype. Coming in H2-2022.

15:42 UTC: AMD's 2022 for the client segment:
15:43 UTC: That's all, folks!

The full AMD presentation decks are below, Ryzen processors first, then Radeon:
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66 Comments on AMD CES 2022 Liveblog: Zen 3+, RDNA2 IGP, 6nm, RX 6500 XT, AM5, Zen 4 and More

#1
jesdals
Looking forward for Ryzen 7000 and 7000
Graphics? Hmmm no Radeon 7000 :(
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#2
Crackong
1080p gaming in a thin and light :clap:
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#3
EzioAs
Prices start at $199 in fantasy lands.
:roll:
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#5
TheinsanegamerN
So 6 years of waiting, and we get a 5500xt with a gimped 4GB 64 bit bus with a 6500xt nameplate for the same price as a RX 480 in 2016. After stating in 2020 that the 4GB GPU was "dead".

I think we need to rename "finewine" to "sour grapes". Cmon, intel kick AMD's arse with the A380 please.
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#6
djuice
Zen4 5GHz all cores on that Halo Infinite DEMO?

5GHZ ALL CORES?!
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#7
Xuper
Did I hear Zen 4 with 5ghz on all cores ?
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#8
Chaitanya
TheinsanegamerNSo 6 years of waiting, and we get a 5500xt with a gimped 4GB 64 bit bus with a 6500xt nameplate for the same price as a RX 480 in 2016. After stating in 2020 that the 4GB GPU was "dead".

I think we need to rename "finewine" to "sour grapes". Cmon, intel kick AMD's arse with the A380 please.
nVidia hasnt even dared to release 3050 on desktop and if they do it would be similarly priced to 6500XT.
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#9
Crackong
Oh no where is my threadripper.................?
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#10
Selaya
No 5950X w/ 3D cache? Madge
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#11
HD64G
Only one CPU with 3D cache and that, with 8 cores! They even hold the core clocks and W down as to the 5800X to allow Zen4 CPUs to seem an even bigger jump in performance with their 5GHz all-core clocks and improved IPC. As for RX5500XT, availability will make it or brake it. For 1650Ti performance and low power draw (~100W), the $200 price would be decent ONLY if it stays there. At least for the near future, good gaming without spending a fortune will be had through consoles, mobile or APUs.
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#12
AdmiralThrawn
They definitely dropped the ball this time. Intel is way ahead and all amd can come up with is some laptop cpu's, an e-waste gpu. The 5700X3D looks okay though.
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#13
Xuper
AMD wants you to buy Zen4 , So why would they make 5600X3D , 5900X3D or 5950X3D ?
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#14
phanbuey
XuperAMD wants you to buy Zen4 , So why would they make 5600X3D , 5900X3D or 5950X3D ?
Test 3D cache on existing chips, Milk an old DDR4 socket w upgrade path for existing users, hedge against chip shortage/AM5 mobo shortage, hedge against DDR5 availability...

Provide a cheaper performance options when Zen4 turns out to be overpriced unobtanium.
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#15
AusWolf
"Privacy View is an interesting new feature, it uses eye-tracking to blur portions of the screen using shaders." - But... WHY? :wtf:

I like the Zen 4 IHS design, by the way. It looks like a medieval fortress from above.
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#16
weekendgeek
Interesting choice to compare 5800x3d to the 5900x. Me thinks the difference wouldn't have been nearly as much vs the 5800x.

From the man himself:
AMD certainly wants to sell you the more expensive (overpriced?) CPU, but the Ryzen 7 5800X is actually the fastest option because of its single CCD architecture.
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#17
axaro1
I just laughed looking at my B350 the moment Lisa Su said "Zen 3D Supported by the AM4 platform" like she didn't just put my fellow 300 chipset owners(except OEM's A320) in the planned obsolescence bin to force us to buy B550/X570 and upgrade to a borderline EOL socket.
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#18
SaLaDiN666
Here goes the amd milk, 5800X 3D but not 5900X and 5950X 3D.

And the price of 6500xt and the crippled versions of mobile gpus without the full DX12 ultimate support. JUST LOL
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#19
R0H1T
SaLaDiN666Here goes the amd milk, 5800X 3D but not 5900X and 5950X 3D.

And the price of 6500xt and the crippled versions of mobile gpus without the full DX12 ultimate support. JUST LOL
They can easily launch 12c/16c variants of the chip if the 5800xd is well received. 7nm will stay with us for years, it's going nowhere anytime soon!
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#20
SaLaDiN666
R0H1TThey can easily launch 12c/16c variants of the chip if the 5800xd is well received. 7nm will stay with us for years, it's going nowhere anytime soon!
They won't, there is a shortage going on and it would affect Zen4 sales.

Realistically, we can expect 15-20% gaming gains from Zen4 mainly in cpu limited scenarios. If they release 5900x or 5950x 3D, there wouldn't be many reasons to upgrade, you wold get similar performance with way cheaper boards and ram. I can already bet there will be also an additional 50 - 100 USD premium for Zen 4 if they remain faster than Intel, then they cut the price,.

That's why there is only a 5800x 3D.
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#21
R0H1T
SaLaDiN666They won't, there is a shortage going on and it would affect Zen4 sales.
And you know this how? Shortage won't last forever! AMD itself is moving to 6nm/5nm & smaller nodes so they'll have enough capacity to move some of the SKU's to 3d(Vcache) if they see good demand for it.
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#22
Pumper
First no 5600 and 5700X, now only 5800X3D. Asshole move, AMD (Zen4 must be a really minor upgrade vs. Zen3+ if they are afraid of competing with their own product).

And the fact that they are comparing the 5800X3D to 5900X tells you all you need to know about the price of that thing.
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#23
Makaveli
The reason why there is only an 8 core model.

Why only Ryzen 7, not Ryzen 5/Ryzen 9? Because this is a new project for AMD, they want to find out how a processor like this will be welcomed into the market. A lot of users (myself included) expected AMD to go all-in with a big 16-core version, however anything Ryzen 9 requires two chiplets, and adding the extra V-Cache does require an extra cost in silicon and packaging. During a semiconductor shortage, I was told that this is the best way to get it into the hands of many people while also not in the super high-cost bracket. It also means one single unified 96 MB of L3 cache, without having to deal with two chiplets worth which might not be optimized immediately. Future versions of V-Cache on next-generation products may be expanded to other Ryzen members of the family.

www.anandtech.com/show/17152/amd-cpus-in-2022-ces
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#24
R0H1T
MakaveliWhy only Ryzen 7, not Ryzen 5/Ryzen 9? Because this is a new project for AMD, they want to find out how a processor like this will be welcomed into the market. A lot of users (myself included) expected AMD to go all-in with a big 16-core version, however anything Ryzen 9 requires two chiplets, and adding the extra V-Cache does require an extra cost in silicon and packaging. During a semiconductor shortage, I was told that this is the best way to get it into the hands of many people while also not in the super high-cost bracket. It also means one single unified 96 MB of L3 cache, without having to deal with two chiplets worth which might not be optimized immediately. Future versions of V-Cache on next-generation products may be expanded to other Ryzen members of the family.

www.anandtech.com/show/17152/amd-cpus-in-2022-ces
Yes, well I looked at that "official explanation" from AMD & then replied here :D
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#25
skizzo
I like the claims of FidelityFX Super Resolution / FSR / Radeon Super Resolution going on more games. I never thought I could play RE8 at 4K on a RX 5700 XT for example.....but I can thanks to these things!
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