Considering the fact that the AM4 X3D chips are very competitive in gaming, compared with the AM5 solutions, understandable from the perspective of AMD, but still sad to see that greed finally takes over. Having an low budged option for a potent gaming PC was AMDs Joker in the market, but of course AMD wants AM5 to finally replace the very popular AM4 socked. They have to enforce that for the reasons mentioned above.

GrimlingConsidering the fact that the AM4 X3D chips are very competitive in gaming, compared with the AM5 solutions, understandable from the perspective of AMD, but still sad to see that greed finally takes over. Having an low budged option for a potent gaming PC was AMDs Joker in the market, but of course AMD wants AM5 to finally replace the very popular AM4 socked. They have to enforce that for the reasons mentioned above.

maybe they just ran out of Zen3 silicon ? I mean, I can't imagine them ordering more Zen3 8c CCDs from TSMC *now* when they're working out the kinks in Zen6 and tbh, they did an amazing job at supporting AM4 well beyond it's theoretical end after they launched AM5

and, despite fully understanding where low budget people come from since I come from there myself, "humanity" gotta bump up its overall tech level at some point and that's not going to happen quickly enough if they keep on selling older standards (I'm not exactly crazed about the wave of AI bullshit but better, more efficient compute hardware -that eventually should "trickle down" to lower budget individuals- for everyone is an overall net positive)

EDIT : it would also probably help a lot if Ryzen 3 SKUs came back, Ryzen 5 is "overkill" for a lot of tasks, such as office works, x4 Zen4/5 cores is more than enough to handle excel spreadsheets...

TheGeekn°72maybe they just ran out of Zen3 silicon ? I mean, I can't imagine them ordering more Zen3 8c CCDs from TSMC *now* when they're working out the kinks in Zen6 and tbh, they did an amazing job at supporting AM4 well beyond it's theoretical end after they launched AM5

and, despite fully understanding where low budget people come from since I come from there myself, "humanity" gotta bump up its overall tech level at some point and that's not going to happen quickly enough if they keep on selling older standards (I'm not exactly crazed about the wave of AI bullshit but better, more efficient compute hardware -that eventually should "trickle down" to lower budget individuals- for everyone is an overall net positive)

EDIT : it would also probably help a lot if Ryzen 3 SKUs came back, Ryzen 5 is "overkill" for a lot of tasks, such as office works, x4 Zen4/5 cores is more than enough to handle excel spreadsheets...

I think AM4 was and still is such a successful and beloved socked, it is at this point the only real competitor to AM5. And AMD has here a conflict of interest. I think they will support AM4 further, but only for the low-performance budged market. Not for competitive Gaming.

GrimlingI think AM4 was and still is such a successful and beloved socked, it is at this point the only real competitor to AM5. And AMD has here a conflict of interest. I think they will support AM4 further, but only for the low-performance budged market. Not for competitive Gaming.

that makes sense, despite Zen5's improved efficiency, making smaller dies for LP systems would cost a fair bit, Zen3 is pretty inexpensive to them since made on an older node, they can just sell dies and let SI figure out what to do with them, doesn't have to be socketed systems either
Zen5, soon 6, come with major high IPC specs, that stuff's made to run unbridled anyways and I presume they're already prepping AM6/Zen7/DDR6 for in 2-5 years anyways, wouldn't be surprised if like AM4, they kept supporting AM5 with more and more SKUs

Well it looks like the pecking order has run its course.
5900X3D the wild cost-prohibitive experiment that didn't go to market.
5800X3D the biggest power sendoff for enthusiasts on the AM4 socket.
5600X3D the first scraps to romance straggler entry level users (me?).
5700X3D was the second scraps and 5500X3D the last of the supply.

The 5800X3D and 5600X3D chips disappeared quickly due to popularity.
The 5700X3D will slowly fade as the last cheap available X3D option.
There could be a revisit to this later but I doubt it. AM4 had the BEST ride.

Am4 has been on the market for 9 years now and I think AMD will probably cease making anymore am4 compatible cpus by next year which will be the platforms 10th year… the performance really starts to shine 2000 series onwards

DaemonForceWell it looks like the pecking order has run its course.
5900X3D the wild cost-prohibitive experiment that didn't go to market.
5800X3D the biggest power sendoff for enthusiasts on the AM4 socket.
5600X3D the first scraps to romance straggler entry level users (me?).
5700X3D was the second scraps and 5500X3D the last of the supply.

The 5800X3D and 5600X3D chips disappeared quickly due to popularity.
The 5700X3D will slowly fade as the last cheap available X3D option.
There could be a revisit to this later but I doubt it. AM4 had the BEST ride.

With regards to the 5600X3D.

I dont think there were that many of them to begin with... Not like the 5700 or 5800 X3D chips. The silicon was just too good.

GrimlingConsidering the fact that the AM4 X3D chips are very competitive in gaming, compared with the AM5 solutions, understandable from the perspective of AMD, but still sad to see that greed finally takes over. Having an low budged option for a potent gaming PC was AMDs Joker in the market, but of course AMD wants AM5 to finally replace the very popular AM4 socked. They have to enforce that for the reasons mentioned above.

The 5700X3D stopped being price competitive for a long time now. Low-end AM5 chips (e.g. 7500F/7600) typically slightly outperform it for less.
This has nothing to do with greed, I'd wager the opposite actually.
AM5 platform upgrade is more expensive but AMD doesn't gain anything from memory sales and a negligible amount of motherboard sales.

From the humble beginnings with the last Excavator APUs to the first X3D processor, once king of gaming with a helluva lot of L3 cache, enabling upgrades far beyond expectations with mere BIOS updates, there it goes AM4, hats off to you AMD for making it.

Not really this shot is from SCAN UK from few secs ago!

DaemonForce5900X3D the wild cost-prohibitive experiment that didn't go to market.

It wasn't cost that blocked it, they probably encountered same scheduling issues that they only managed to resolve with 7000 series (but truly in 9000 series).

The 5800X3D and 5600X3D chips disappeared quickly due to popularity.

They didn't, I got mine in December 2023 and they still available until late 2024. That's like 2 and a half year of availability from the launch date of March 2022. It's 5600X3D that was very limited and exclusive to Microcenter.

DaemonForceWell it looks like the pecking order has run its course.
5900X3D the wild cost-prohibitive experiment that didn't go to market.
5800X3D the biggest power sendoff for enthusiasts on the AM4 socket.
5600X3D the first scraps to romance straggler entry level users (me?).
5700X3D was the second scraps and 5500X3D the last of the supply.

The 5800X3D and 5600X3D chips disappeared quickly due to popularity.
The 5700X3D will slowly fade as the last cheap available X3D option.
There could be a revisit to this later but I doubt it. AM4 had the BEST ride.

Is 7600X3D still supplied or was it a limited run ? I forgot
The 7800X3D is still a tremendously cost effective option in face of the 9800X3D's current market price
Not sure who's the target customer for 7900/9900X3Ds but apparently they do sell an amount of units
There's the 7950/9950X3D behemoths for the high ballers I guess

Curious about what Zen6X3D will have for us, I know 12c CCDs are highly rumored to show up, 12c X3D would go hard for games that aren't still single core/threaded in 2025

Got mine (tray version for OEM) at $147 + VAT 19% exactly one year ago. Not it goes from $220 to $280 + VAT 21% (boxed).

bought 5700X3D on sale 3 months ago on amazon used. had a pin bent, (the person returning you could say is bent) in any case, the pin was a ground or non-functional so it works, if i had known that the 5800X3D was retired in October 2024 I would’ve upgraded to a AM5 platform. but as it is now no upgrade. it works just fine, with a 7900xtx.

a complete boondoggle my am4 system, the am5 was expensive 2years ago, but should of, could of, would of, if i did not go “cheap” system, instead built a “back-in-the-day” system.
(no regrets for using AMD, still salty over the i9-9900K… so intel NO!)

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Not really this shot is from SCAN UK from few secs ago!

1. That's not how EOL announcements work. AMD doesn't check with every single shop in the world "hey bro you still got any 5700X3Ds left" every day waiting to announce this.

2. That's an insanely high price. Back when it was in volume production it was commonly available for about half that.

I highly doubt the price is justifiable.

230€ is far too cheap geizhals.at/amd-ryzen-7-5700x3d-100-100001503wof-a3094294.html

I remembered 400€ for the other one: geizhals.at/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-a2660252.html

redeyethe am5 was expensive 2years ago

I disagree
I bought in may 2023 from germany for a total of 400€: 2x asus mousepads, 1x asus prime x670 prime mainboard (value around 230€ for a long time, sometimes 210€), 1x ryzen 7600x (value 230€ at that point what i remember), star wars jedi survivor

ryzen 5800x was around 350 or 400€ what i remember.

my previous ryzen 5800x showed similar performance as my ryzen 7600x.

Feel free to buy trash mainboards. They were available cheap in 2023 for am5. There was also cheaper dram available in 2023. dram with jedec and no heatsink and 8gib only.

Firedrops1. That's not how EOL announcements work. AMD doesn't check with every single shop in the world "hey bro you still got any 5700X3Ds left" every day waiting to announce this.

2. That's an insanely high price. Back when it was in volume production it was commonly available for about half that.

Can you show some evidence you could ever buy a 5700X3D for £115? Seems too good to be true considering that's basically entry level CPU range, and even as a worse 5800X3D, it's still above every other single CCD chip.

dgianstefaniCan you show some evidence you could ever buy a 5700X3D for £115? Seems too good to be true considering that's basically entry level CPU range, and even as a worse 5800X3D, it's still above every other single CCD chip.

Ive seen a lot of them pop up on Aliexpress for that price. Maybe not right now but there was a point last year when sellers there were just offloading as much stock as they could before the 9xxx series launch.

From what ive heard. all of the chips turned out to be legit.

Firedrops1. That's not how EOL announcements work. AMD doesn't check with every single shop in the world "hey bro you still got any 5700X3Ds left" every day waiting to announce this.

2. That's an insanely high price. Back when it was in volume production it was commonly available for about half that.

But the whole point was is it available so at this point retail price doesn't matter! And here is form Overlockers UK 😏

Has been the case for some time, no stock. 5500X3D came in at roughly the same price this was selling at, despite being worse at everything. 5800X3D has been unavailable for almost 2 years now, lucky those who got one. AM4's about to go belly up overall.

FreedomEclipseIve seen a lot of them pop up on Aliexpress for that price. Maybe not right now but there was a point last year when sellers there were just offloading as much stock as they could before the 9xxx series launch.

From what ive heard. all of the chips turned out to be legit.

Yeah Aliexpress has some crazy deals on CPUs. Even some that aren't supposed to exist, like repackaged LGA versions of chips like i9-13980HX. CN folks are quite creative lol

GrimlingConsidering the fact that the AM4 X3D chips are very competitive in gaming, compared with the AM5 solutions, understandable from the perspective of AMD, but still sad to see that greed finally takes over. Having an low budged option for a potent gaming PC was AMDs Joker in the market, but of course AMD wants AM5 to finally replace the very popular AM4 socked. They have to enforce that for the reasons mentioned above.

AM4 is only competitive at 4K gaming. At lower resolutions the newer chips such as 7600X etc clearly pull ahead. Not to mention 7600X3D.
I would not say it's greed. It's inevitability. AM4 has had a long support, but it has to end some day.

Also AM5 is cheap enough now. It's possible to get a low end AM5 platform for a ~few hundred bucks new. (A620+8400F+16GB DDR5-5200).
~250 for a much less compromised performance and upgradeability (B650+7400F+32GB DDR5-6000).

TheGeekn°72maybe they just ran out of Zen3 silicon ? I mean, I can't imagine them ordering more Zen3 8c CCDs from TSMC *now* when they're working out the kinks in Zen6

Not really. Zen 3 is still being made. AMD has contractual obligations for server customers to produce older silicon for Zen 3 based Epyc chips and since the chiplets are the same between Ryzen, Threadripper and Epyc they are still ordering Zen 3 from TSMC. Obviously not in great numbers, but no they did not run out.

DaemonForceThe 5800X3D and 5600X3D chips disappeared quickly due to popularity.

5600X3D yes, but 5800X3D was on the market for a long time. I got mine in the middle of 2022. Shortly after launch as i figured there would not be anything faster coming for AM4 anymore (cheaper yes, faster - no). And i was right.
I think 5800X3D only started disappearing in 2024 so it had a good run. Longer than 5700X3D.

NostrasThe 5700X3D stopped being price competitive for a long time now. Low-end AM5 chips (e.g. 7500F/7600) typically slightly outperform it for less.

X3D on AM4 was never price competitive with other platforms. That was not the point. It was the last hurrah for AM4 owners to postpone eventual AM5 upgrades and thus the price was offset by saving on not having to upgrade the mobo and ram. Obviously for new builds it made no sense compared to AM5.

redeyeif i had known that the 5800X3D was retired in October 2024 I would’ve upgraded to a AM5 platform. but as it is now no upgrade. it works just fine, with a 7900xtx.

You bought 5800X3D without knowing that AM4 was EOL already?

I hope you were already on AM4 when you did this. Otherwise it would have made more sense to get AM5. 5800X3D and other X3D chips for AM4 only made sense for existing AM4 owners. For anyone building a brand new platform, AM5 made much more sense past 2024 when prices had normalized.

TomorrowAM4 is only competitive at 4K gaming. At lower resolutions the newer chips such as 7600X etc clearly pull ahead. Not to mention 7600X3D.
I would not say it's greed. It's inevitability. AM4 has had a long support, but it has to end some day.

Also AM5 is cheap enough now. It's possible to get a low end AM5 platform for a ~few hundred bucks new. (A620+8400F+16GB DDR5-5200).
~250 for a much less compromised performance and upgradeability (B650+7400F+32GB DDR5-6000).

Not really. Zen 3 is still being made. AMD has contractual obligations for server customers to produce older silicon for Zen 3 based Epyc chips and since the chiplets are the same between Ryzen, Threadripper and Epyc they are still ordering Zen 3 from TSMC. Obviously not in great numbers, but no they did not run out.

5600X3D yes, but 5800X3D was on the market for a long time. I got mine in the middle of 2022. Shortly after launch as i figured there would not be anything faster coming for AM4 anymore (cheaper yes, faster - no). And i was right.
I think 5800X3D only started disappearing in 2024 so it had a good run. Longer than 5700X3D.

X3D on AM4 was never price competitive with other platforms. That was not the point. It was the last hurrah for AM4 owners to postpone eventual AM5 upgrades and thus the price was offset by saving on not having to upgrade the mobo and ram. Obviously for new builds it made no sense compared to AM5.

You bought 5800X3D without knowing that AM4 was EOL already?

I hope you were already on AM4 when you did this. Otherwise it would have made more sense to get AM5. 5800X3D and other X3D chips for AM4 only made sense for existing AM4 owners. For anyone building a brand new platform,AM5 made much more sense past 2024 when prices had normalized.

sorry, i bought a 5700x3d, (and did not mention the time line, i bought the system using a 5700g, 2 years ago...then a 5800x, then 2 months ago the 5700x3d, a used chip) and my "complaints are, i guess, sour grapes. )
thought i bought a 5800x3d. checked the bios, i have a 5700x3d. i actually did not buy the 5800x3d,because it would provide "any" fps boost, so i bought a 5800x. was not clear.

Bought my nephew a 5700X3D about 2 years ago for 270usd, it still perform admirably in Battlefield 6, watching my nephew playing BF6 and he gets around 180FPS @1080p with rtx3070

Good, AM5 is mature now old stock is fine for quick repairs.
The market needs to move on.

intel should make 12 13 and 14 gen disappear too, it was very frustrating to look for a prebuilt desktop system.
all i could find were either +2000k systems with this generation of cpu's or systems with ancient cpu's i can see microsoft dropping support for in the next 2-3 years.

TomorrowX3D on AM4 was never price competitive with other platforms. That was not the point. It was the last hurrah for AM4 owners to postpone eventual AM5 upgrades and thus the price was offset by saving on not having to upgrade the mobo and ram. Obviously for new builds it made no sense compared to AM5.

That's not true at all. From the launch of the AM5 platform till a couple months after the release of the 7500F/7600 many would argue that investing in a brand new AM4 X3D platform was more worthwhile than having a more modern platform with long-term upgrade support because the AM4 setup was significantly cheaper. Only until more affordable AM5 boards came out, DDR5 stopped being stupidly expensive and AMD's lower end chips became cheaper did AM4 X3D stop being competitive as a new platform. That was about a year and a half ago. Since the last couple months nobody really argues for a new AM4 platform anymore as 7500F/8400G are very cheap and AM5 motherboards + RAM are very affordable now.
Also helps that AM4 motherboards and DDR4 stopped being stupidly cheap.