Friday, October 31st 2025

Engineering Driver Reignites Battlemage B770 GPU Speculation

The future of the Intel Arc B770 GPU was already being called into question earlier this year, even before Intel and NVIDIA partnered up for what Intel called "complementary" GPU options. After all, reports as early as March 2025 claimed that the high-end Battlemage GPU project had been cancelled in 2024 already. More recently, however, rumors have surfaced about a potential late 2025 release for Intel's Arc B770 GPU. Now, a recent discovery in an Intel engineering graphics driver (shared by @GOKForFree on X) seems to substantiate the theory that Intel might have one more Arc Battlemage GPU in the chamber.

Specifically, the driver makes mention of the BMG-G31 GPU die—which is the silicon associated with the high-end Intel Arc B770 GPU—and four potential configurations of the high-end Xe2 die. If the leak is accurate, it would indicate that there are three "Pro" GPU configurations and a single consumer GPU—rumors suggested 32 Xe2 cores with 16 GB of GDDR6 memory on a 256-bit bus—spawn from the BMG-G31 die. While it makes sense that there would be multiple professional configurations—perhaps with slightly different NPU, processor, and memory configurations—it makes sense that the remaining consumer GPU would be the rumored Arc B770. Whether the mention of the new GPU indicates that B770 will eventually launch, or if Intel had simply included it in the driver from the start of development, is unclear, but it does suggest that there is significant progress toward an Arc B770.
Source: @GOKForFree on X
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29 Comments on Engineering Driver Reignites Battlemage B770 GPU Speculation

#1
Mrgravia
I’m more hoping for an Arc b380, as the lower end gpu market sucks right now.
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Blurpy
Don’t know why people kept saying it was canceled without actual evidence. I’ve been loving my b580 in my second rig can’t wait to pick one of these up at launch!
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Deorc Mearh
I don't assume anything except that time is passing and the day we could possibly see a B770 it would be too late for it making any sense
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DeathtoGnomes
I think intel is leaning back on future developments because of the nvidia buy in, dont wanna kick the gift horse in the mouth.
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Panther_Seraphin
What is taking Intel so long? A B770 pro could be killer option in the AI market currently going by the Pro B60 pricing etc, hopefuly that would be able to keep fueling Arc development in the mid/longer term.

They killed of Ponte Vecchio, relegated Falcon Shores to internal use only and Jaguar shores isnt out till mid 2026.........

Whats the hold up Intel.......literally letting AMD and nVidia sit unopposed in both the Enthusiast sector AND massively lucrative AI sectors for 12+ months for what reason? I know I am focusing on the AI bubble but this is massive amounts of Money Intel seems to be actively deciding NOT to compete for when both their Ankles and Kneecaps have already been shot out from underneath them.
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#6
usiname
Panther_SeraphinWhat is taking Intel so long? A B770 pro could be killer option in the AI market currently going by the Pro B60 pricing etc, hopefuly that would be able to keep fueling Arc development in the mid/longer term.

They killed of Ponte Vecchio, relegated Falcon Shores to internal use only and Jaguar shores isnt out till mid 2026.........

Whats the hold up Intel.......literally letting AMD and nVidia sit unopposed in both the Enthusiast sector AND massively lucrative AI sectors for 12+ months for what reason? I know I am focusing on the AI bubble but this is massive amounts of Money Intel seems to be actively deciding NOT to compete for when both their Ankles and Kneecaps have already been shot out from underneath them.
"Intel letting AMD and Nvidia sit unopposed" :roll:
You the Intel fanboys are really interesting, not to mention that you are ready to buy every single card of the whole series, just because it is Intel.
Ok, lets see what is this Intel's beast that is soooo gooooood from the last GPU review few days ago.
www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-5070-solid/31.html

B580 ($239) vs 9060XT 8GB ($269), 26% less performance for 11% less money
B580 ($239) vs RTX 5060 ($299), 23% less performance for 20% less money (weren't Ngridia overpriced?)


Power consumption Single Monitor idle
RX 9060XT 8GB - 6W
RTX 5060 - 9W
B580 - 34W

Power consumption Multi Monitor idle
RX 9060XT 8GB - 16W
RTX 5060 - 8W
B580 - 35W

Power consumption Gaming
RX 9060XT 8GB - 155W
RTX 5060 - 135W
B580 - 165W (more than 9060XT while its 26% slower)

What I see is ultra big garbage, that cannot compete nor in price, nor in performance, nor in power consumption, nor in driver and the only nice thing about it is the Intel branding on it so the Intel fanboys can be happy with their all Intel systems and bragging how they buy each card of the whole series.
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GeoffreyA
usiname"Intel letting AMD and Nvidia sit unopposed" :roll:
You the Intel fanboys are really interesting, not to mention that you are ready to buy every single card of the whole series, just because it is Intel.
Ok, lets see what is this Intel's beast that is soooo gooooood from the last GPU review few days ago.
www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-5070-solid/31.html

B580 ($239) vs 9060XT 8GB ($269), 26% less performance for 11% less money
B580 ($239) vs RTX 5060 ($299), 23% less performance for 20% less money (weren't Ngridia overpriced?)


Power consumption Single Monitor idle
RX 9060XT 8GB - 6W
RTX 5060 - 9W
B580 - 34W

Power consumption Multi Monitor idle
RX 9060XT 8GB - 16W
RTX 5060 - 8W
B580 - 35W

Power consumption Gaming
RX 9060XT 8GB - 155W
RTX 5060 - 135W
B580 - 165W (more than 9060XT while its 26% slower)

What I see is ultra big garbage, that cannot compete nor in price, nor in performance, nor in power consumption, nor in driver and the only nice thing about it is the Intel branding on it so the Intel fanboys can be happy with their all Intel systems and bragging how they buy each card of the whole series.
It's not Intel fan boys but excellent value. Before the introduction of the RX 9060 XT and RTX 5060, the B580 was the best budget GPU, beating the RX 7600 and RTX 4060. AMD and Nvidia's 2025 offerings changed the picture; however, because of its low price, it is still the best purchase for many.

People have been supporting Arc because it is competitive, are tired of over-priced GPUs from AMD and Nvidia, and want a third-party underdog to do some damage.

Nvidia and AMD have years of a lead designing discrete GPUs. Intel is behind but doing well catching up. The high idle-power consumption is brought down to less than 15W by enabling ASPM L1 and maximum PCIe savings. The drivers steadily improve and are released fortnightly (or quicker). The staff quickly respond to reported issues.
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usiname
GeoffreyAIt's not Intel fan boys but excellent value. Before the introduction of the RX 9060 XT and RTX 5060, the B580 was the best budget GPU, beating the RX 7600 and RTX 4060. AMD and Nvidia's 2025 offerings changed the picture; however, because of its low price, it is still the best purchase for many.

People have been supporting Arc because it is competitive, are tired of over-priced GPUs from AMD and Nvidia, and want a third-party underdog to do some damage.

Nvidia and AMD have years of a lead designing discrete GPUs. Intel is behind but doing well catching up. The high idle-power consumption is brought down to less than 15W by enabling ASPM L1 and maximum PCIe savings. The drivers steadily improve and are released fortnightly (or quicker). The staff quickly respond to reported issues.
Do you even realize what you just said? So B580 is trash, compared to the current gen, does not offer anything, just worst price to performance, less features, worse power consumption, and drivers, so the people should be excited for the same gen that will be the same GPU, just scaled and still lose in everything like the small one? Its not called fanboy without reason you know?

B580 can't compete even with RTX 4060, which was cheaper all the time after the release of the B580 (no at MSRP for long time after the launch)
4060 is still better card with better power consumption and same performance, but much better drivers and more features. Same with rx 7600xt
So people are tired of "overpriced" GPUs from AMD and Nvidia and prefer to pay even MORE for less performance, worse drivers and power consumption? Its not called fanboy without reason you know?
Even if there were not cards in exactly this class from the new gen, its obvious that the lower tiers from AMD and Nvidia will bring much more to the table when launched and if you can't wait for few months and rush to get the biggest trash, the problem is yours, but there is no excuse now to dream for the same scaled garbage

And you final conclusion is because Intel is new to the GPU market - 6 years since the release of DG1 and probably 20 years of Integrated GPUs, which make the Intel's GPUs most widely available GPUs in the world with more sales than Nvidia+AMD combined, we must to support the "underdog" that does not provide anything, just worse performance/$, worse in everything and GPUs that are in the Nvidia's XX50 class? Its not called fanboy without reason you know?

By the way, who with his mind purchase the lower tier GPU, while waiting for the faster GPU that would be released in few months (B770 was always coming in the next few months) and planning to sell his current GPU to get the new one, when he can just buy the AMD's or Nvidia's alternative and get much better value, because the reselling of hardware does not bring the same amount in normal conditions? The answer is hard core fanboys. But they will justify this purchase with "I will put in my second gaming rig because it is the best ever GPU". Its hilarious how those fanboys has so many Intel's GPUs and this is not one or two cases, its most of them. How many times have you read for someone who is doing the same with AMD or Nvidia's cards? Now add the fact that Nvidia has 90 times the market share of Intel and still there are no such fanboys
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GeoffreyA
usinameDo you even realize what you just said? So B580 is trash, compared to the current gen, does not offer anything, just worst price to performance, less features, worse power consumption, and drivers, so the people should be excited for the same gen that will be the same GPU, just scaled and still lose in everything like the small one? Its not called fanboy without reason you know?

B580 can't compete even with RTX 4060, which was cheaper all the time after the release of the B580 (no at MSRP for long time after the launch)
4060 is still better card with better power consumption and same performance, but much better drivers and more features. Same with rx 7600xt
So people are tired of "overpriced" GPUs from AMD and Nvidia and prefer to pay even MORE for less performance, worse drivers and power consumption? Its not called fanboy without reason you know?
Even if there were not cards in exactly this class from the new gen, its obvious that the lower tiers from AMD and Nvidia will bring much more to the table when launched and if you can't wait for few months and rush to get the biggest trash, the problem is yours, but there is no excuse now to dream for the same scaled garbage

And you final conclusion is because Intel is new to the GPU market - 6 years since the release of DG1 and probably 20 years of Integrated GPUs, which make the Intel's GPUs most widely available GPUs in the world with more sales than Nvidia+AMD combined, we must to support the "underdog" that does not provide anything, just worse performance/$, worse in everything and GPUs that are in the Nvidia's XX50 class? Its not called fanboy without reason you know?

By the way, who with his mind purchase the lower tier GPU, while waiting for the faster GPU that would be released in few months (B770 was always coming in the next few months) and planning to sell his current GPU to get the new one, when he can just buy the AMD's or Nvidia's alternative and get much better value, because the reselling of hardware does not bring the same amount in normal conditions? The answer is hard core fanboys. But they will justify this purchase with "I will put in my second gaming rig because it is the best ever GPU". Its hilarious how those fanboys has so many Intel's GPUs and this is not one or two cases, its most of them. How many times have you read for someone who is doing the same with AMD or Nvidia's cards? Now add the fact that Nvidia has 90 times the market share of Intel and still there are no such fanboys
Before the current generation of AMD and Nvidia, the B580 was the best value if got at MSRP, nor must its 12 GB of VRAM be forgotten. Now, the choice tends to be between the RX 9060 XT and B580, depending on price and lost performance. Neither you nor I know how the B770 will perform; but considering the scaling of the hardware and memory bandwidth (60% more cores and 33% wider interface), it could well overtake the 9060. Pricing will determine the best purchase.

Not being at MSRP was a problem with the B580, but if the price was the same or cheaper than RTX 4060, the Arc was on par or arguably better, being a bit faster on average, especially at higher resolutions, and having more VRAM. Of course, the GeForce wins on performance per watt, and has DLSS (and Cuda). XeSS has been serviceable. Against the RX 7600, if pricing was similar, again, the Arc was much better, pulling ahead most of the time.

I specifically used the word "discrete" to exclude iGPUs. Of course, the proof of the pudding is in the eating and what one pays today; but the competition does have a big lead in graphics cards, so it is understandable, though not excusable, that Arc isn't perfect. When comparing Alchemist and Battlemage, there is progress.

Waiting for the next card, then selling yours whilst ignoring the competition's offerings would be brand loyalty and irrational. Fair enough. However, the B770 was on the horizon but never sure, whereas the B580 was on the market from December; and there are some who have sold their Arc and bought a GeForce or Radeon. We can't paint everyone with the same stereotype brush. Are you saying there are no AMD and Nvidia fan boys but only Intel ones?
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Deorc Mearh
usinameDo you even realize what you just said? So B580 is trash, compared to the current gen, does not offer anything, just worst price to performance, less features, worse power consumption, and drivers, so the people should be excited for the same gen that will be the same GPU, just scaled and still lose in everything like the small one? Its not called fanboy without reason you know?

B580 can't compete even with RTX 4060, which was cheaper all the time after the release of the B580 (no at MSRP for long time after the launch)
4060 is still better card with better power consumption and same performance, but much better drivers and more features. Same with rx 7600xt
So people are tired of "overpriced" GPUs from AMD and Nvidia and prefer to pay even MORE for less performance, worse drivers and power consumption? Its not called fanboy without reason you know?
Even if there were not cards in exactly this class from the new gen, its obvious that the lower tiers from AMD and Nvidia will bring much more to the table when launched and if you can't wait for few months and rush to get the biggest trash, the problem is yours, but there is no excuse now to dream for the same scaled garbage

And you final conclusion is because Intel is new to the GPU market - 6 years since the release of DG1 and probably 20 years of Integrated GPUs, which make the Intel's GPUs most widely available GPUs in the world with more sales than Nvidia+AMD combined, we must to support the "underdog" that does not provide anything, just worse performance/$, worse in everything and GPUs that are in the Nvidia's XX50 class? Its not called fanboy without reason you know?

By the way, who with his mind purchase the lower tier GPU, while waiting for the faster GPU that would be released in few months (B770 was always coming in the next few months) and planning to sell his current GPU to get the new one, when he can just buy the AMD's or Nvidia's alternative and get much better value, because the reselling of hardware does not bring the same amount in normal conditions? The answer is hard core fanboys. But they will justify this purchase with "I will put in my second gaming rig because it is the best ever GPU". Its hilarious how those fanboys has so many Intel's GPUs and this is not one or two cases, its most of them. How many times have you read for someone who is doing the same with AMD or Nvidia's cards? Now add the fact that Nvidia has 90 times the market share of Intel and still there are no such fanboys
another pathological cathegory is composed by fanatic haters.

Intel has decided to design dedicated gpu's just a few years ago and it's been improving quickly. it's not the same thing as designing barely sufficient integrated cpu's. They always had a good software r&d and they fixed many issues with their drivers. Intel has provided for free different C/ C++ libraries very used in academic research or even professionally like opencv. they wrote a linux distribution and optimizations for every linux distributions.
It means the same company that struggled to give decent cpu's in the last years because of the price and the well kniwn issues until Arrow Lake family was quite generous at giving for free very interesting technologies.

I don't think it's so hard to understand why anyone even among those who never was a fan of intel, today could HOPE they produce a new average segment graphic card and attack amd and nVidia with their greedy policies.
It's just called HOPING that is quite different from being a fan boy .

By the way in my country in the same shop I usually buy my components an Intel B580 costs 279€, the least expensive rtx 5060 is 330.

I read in the past comments full od despise for a producer given as failed when Ati still was an indipendent company and was a cheaper rival of Matrox, when AMD began to compete with Intel rather than aiming just at cheaper cpu's but struggled to keep up with floating point calculus (funny how today they still lag behind), when nVidia changed its old architecture and TMSC was not able to provide them with the promised smaller node and every smart ass kid claimed nVidia was over and AMD/ Ati would take it all.

I have not decided yet what card to buy for my imminent new pc, but if I could by a card that stay close to a 5070 cost significantly less than 600€ I'll surely consider it especially if it comes with more memory than nVidia's cards.
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BillyRazOr
usinameDo you even realize what you just said? So B580 is trash, compared to the current gen, does not offer anything, just worst price to performance, less features, worse power consumption, and drivers, so the people should be excited for the same gen that will be the same GPU, just scaled and still lose in everything like the small one? Its not called fanboy without reason you know?

B580 can't compete even with RTX 4060, which was cheaper all the time after the release of the B580 (no at MSRP for long time after the launch)
4060 is still better card with better power consumption and same performance, but much better drivers and more features. Same with rx 7600xt
So people are tired of "overpriced" GPUs from AMD and Nvidia and prefer to pay even MORE for less performance, worse drivers and power consumption? Its not called fanboy without reason you know?
Even if there were not cards in exactly this class from the new gen, its obvious that the lower tiers from AMD and Nvidia will bring much more to the table when launched and if you can't wait for few months and rush to get the biggest trash, the problem is yours, but there is no excuse now to dream for the same scaled garbage

And you final conclusion is because Intel is new to the GPU market - 6 years since the release of DG1 and probably 20 years of Integrated GPUs, which make the Intel's GPUs most widely available GPUs in the world with more sales than Nvidia+AMD combined, we must to support the "underdog" that does not provide anything, just worse performance/$, worse in everything and GPUs that are in the Nvidia's XX50 class? Its not called fanboy without reason you know?

By the way, who with his mind purchase the lower tier GPU, while waiting for the faster GPU that would be released in few months (B770 was always coming in the next few months) and planning to sell his current GPU to get the new one, when he can just buy the AMD's or Nvidia's alternative and get much better value, because the reselling of hardware does not bring the same amount in normal conditions? The answer is hard core fanboys. But they will justify this purchase with "I will put in my second gaming rig because it is the best ever GPU". Its hilarious how those fanboys has so many Intel's GPUs and this is not one or two cases, its most of them. How many times have you read for someone who is doing the same with AMD or Nvidia's cards? Now add the fact that Nvidia has 90 times the market share of Intel and still there are no such fanboys
It's not about fanboys, people want competitions for budget GPU as they already knew these two big companies were released GPUs with higher prices, which made them too tired to see it. You don't even know about how the market does need running fair and square, also seems like you're talking for yourself and hatred without facts because nobody wants to give you a damn.
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usiname
GeoffreyABefore the current generation of AMD and Nvidia, the B580 was the best value if got at MSRP, nor must its 12 GB of VRAM be forgotten. Now, the choice tends to be between the RX 9060 XT and B580, depending on price and lost performance. Neither you nor I know how the B770 will perform; but considering the scaling of the hardware and memory bandwidth (60% more cores and 33% wider interface), it could well overtake the 9060. Pricing will determine the best purchase.

Not being at MSRP was a problem with the B580, but if the price was the same or cheaper than RTX 4060, the Arc was on par or arguably better, being a bit faster on average, especially at higher resolutions, and having more VRAM. Of course, the GeForce wins on performance per watt, and has DLSS (and Cuda). XeSS has been serviceable. Against the RX 7600, if pricing was similar, again, the Arc was much better, pulling ahead most of the time.

I specifically used the word "discrete" to exclude iGPUs. Of course, the proof of the pudding is in the eating and what one pays today; but the competition does have a big lead in graphics cards, so it is understandable, though not excusable, that Arc isn't perfect. When comparing Alchemist and Battlemage, there is progress.

Waiting for the next card, then selling yours whilst ignoring the competition's offerings would be brand loyalty and irrational. Fair enough. However, the B770 was on the horizon but never sure, whereas the B580 was on the market from December; and there are some who have sold their Arc and bought a GeForce or Radeon. We can't paint everyone with the same stereotype brush. Are you saying there are no AMD and Nvidia fan boys but only Intel ones?
Just confirmed everything that I said, by the way, its hard to protect this trash B580 with any real data, isn't it? I can ensure you for some things about B770, it would be 5060TI 8GB at most as performance and probably as price, while consume 50% more power and does not have any of the features of Nvidia. AMD does not have a card in this price segment, but the 9060XT 16GB will be close in performance with lower price and way better power consumption. But of course you are free to suck whatever trash Intel produce and support the worse products.
Deorc Mearhanother pathological cathegory is composed by fanatic haters.

Intel has decided to design dedicated gpu's just a few years ago and it's been improving quickly. it's not the same thing as designing barely sufficient integrated cpu's. They always had a good software r&d and they fixed many issues with their drivers. Intel has provided for free different C/ C++ libraries very used in academic research or even professionally like opencv. they wrote a linux distribution and optimizations for every linux distributions.
It means the same company that struggled to give decent cpu's in the last years because of the price and the well kniwn issues until Arrow Lake family was quite generous at giving for free very interesting technologies.

I don't think it's so hard to understand why anyone even among those who never was a fan of intel, today could HOPE they produce a new average segment graphic card and attack amd and nVidia with their greedy policies.
It's just called HOPING that is quite different from being a fan boy .

By the way in my country in the same shop I usually buy my components an Intel B580 costs 279€, the least expensive rtx 5060 is 330.

I read in the past comments full od despise for a producer given as failed when Ati still was an indipendent company and was a cheaper rival of Matrox, when AMD began to compete with Intel rather than aiming just at cheaper cpu's but struggled to keep up with floating point calculus (funny how today they still lag behind), when nVidia changed its old architecture and TMSC was not able to provide them with the promised smaller node and every smart ass kid claimed nVidia was over and AMD/ Ati would take it all.

I have not decided yet what card to buy for my imminent new pc, but if I could by a card that stay close to a 5070 cost significantly less than 600€ I'll surely consider it especially if it comes with more memory than nVidia's cards.
Another fanboy eager to protect the trash B580. If you were little more educated you would know that the difference between iGPU and dGPU is not that big, since both are using same architecture, same drivers and the main difference is scaling and the non onboard memory, which is not that big difference. By the way, hopping for better alternative while supporting obvious trash, worse in every aspect is exactly the mindset of the fanboys.
BillyRazOrIt's not about fanboys, people want competitions for budget GPU as they already knew these two big companies were released GPUs with higher prices, which made them too tired to see it. You don't even know about how the market does need running fair and square, also seems like you're talking for yourself and hatred without facts because nobody wants to give you a damn.
Funny how I am the only one who is showing graphs and prove my points, while the intel's fanboys just scream for third player and support the trash, when their so called third player is worse than the existing players, those they hate so much.

I understand why is so hard for all of you to prove some graphs and prove why B580 is good GPU, there is not such thing. Are you going to show now 4k gaming and scream how good are the 15fps that B580 provide compared to the 16fps of 5060?
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Deorc Mearh
usinameJust confirmed everything that I said, by the way, its hard to protect this trash B580 with any real data, isn't it? I can ensure you for some things about B770, it would be 5060TI 8GB at most as performance and probably as price, while consume 50% more power and does not have any of the features of Nvidia. AMD does not have a card in this price segment, but the 9060XT 16GB will be close in performance with lower price and way better power consumption. But of course you are free to suck whatever trash Intel produce and support the worse products.

Another fanboy eager to protect the trash B580. If you were little more educated you would know that the difference between iGPU and dGPU is not that big, since both are using same architecture, same drivers and the main difference is scaling and the non onboard memory, which is not that big difference. By the way, hopping for better alternative while supporting obvious trash, worse in every aspect is exactly the mindset of the fanboys.

Funny how I am the only one who is showing graphs and prove my points, while the intel's fanboys just scream for third player and support the trash, when their so called third player is worse than the existing players, those they hate so much.

I understand why is so hard for all of you to prove some graphs and prove why B580 is good GPU, there is not such thing. Are you going to show now 4k gaming and scream how good are the 15fps that B580 provide compared to the 16fps of 5060?
Well the fact I don 't insult you doesn't nean I have a better consideration of your intelligence than that you have of the things I said even criticizing what I actualy haven't said.

I gave you a fact that seems you can't accept in your rage outlets. 580 costs less. Period.

You have a long way to grow up from the elementary class where you are before teaching other people clearly more educated and older than you: should I tell you that when you aim just providing your cpu with integrated gpu and don't produce discrete gpu this means you are not investing in powerful gpu's otherwise you would share the investment on discrete ones exactly as Intel is NOW doing ? you are not even consequential with things you think you can teach.
I don 't think you are more than a frustrated and childish troll but anyway I always hope that posting some thoughts can benefit more people if not the pathetic troll of the situation.
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usiname
Deorc MearhWell the fact I don 't insult you doesn't nean I have a better consideration of your intelligence than those you have of the things I said and even criticizing what I actualy haven't said.

You have a long way to grow up from the elementary class where you are before teaching other people clearly more educated and older than you: should I tell you that when you aim just providing your cpu with integrated gpu and don't produce discrete gpu this means you are not investing in powerful gpu's otherwise you would share the investment on discrete ones exactly as Intel is NOW doing ? you are not even consequential with things you think you can teach.
I don 't think you are more than a frustrated and childish troll but anyway I always hope that posting some thoughts can benefit more people if not the pathetic troll of the situation.
The fact that you can't provide anything and still insulting me while claiming you are not make it even more funny and showing exactly your level. Its really easy to shut the Intel's fanboys with few graphs. Where are the eager claims what nice value is B580 before my post? Are you going to prove more how correct is everything I said or you are going to like more the post of the gang and avoid the important things?
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#15
GeoffreyA
usinameJust confirmed everything that I said, by the way, its hard to protect this trash B580 with any real data, isn't it? I can ensure you for some things about B770, it would be 5060TI 8GB at most as performance and probably as price, while consume 50% more power and does not have any of the features of Nvidia. AMD does not have a card in this price segment, but the 9060XT 16GB will be close in performance with lower price and way better power consumption. But of course you are free to suck whatever trash Intel produce and support the worse products.
When the B580 was released, and for many months afterwards, this was its performance assessment, beating the RTX 4060 and RX 7600, its main competitors:



In terms of value, it was at the top of the charts:


"The B580 poses considerable value as compared to the RTX 4060 and RX 7600. It is not always the best and trades with these cards, but is a serious competitor." --Gamers Nexus

Unfortunately, its near-universal acclaim as budget champion led its price going higher than MSRP. But, for some months now, it has dropped back to MSRP, or cheaper, making it excellent value, despite the RX 9060 XT and RTX 5060 being faster.

"At the lower end of the market, many 8GB cards are now available, competing with Intel's Arc Battlemage series. The good news is that the B580 is now readily available at its $250 MSRP across multiple regions, making it far more viable than in past months when it exceeded $300. Alongside the RX 9060 XT 8GB, it often ranks among the best cost-per-frame options." --Techspot

In short, the B580 was excellent value at launch and, after a rough time with MSRPs, still is.
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#16
Deorc Mearh
usinameThe fact that you can't provide anything and still insulting me while claiming you are not make it even more funny and showing exactly your level. Its really easy to shut the Intel's fanboys with few graphs. Where are the eager claims what nice value is B580 before my post? Are you going to prove more how correct is everything I said or you are going to like more the post of the gang and avoid the important things?
1. you said I support the idea that b580 is a good card. I've never said that. I've said HERE it's false it costs the same as its competitors.
2. you fanatically screaming intel's cards are bad so those who hope Intel goes on developing cards are fanboy and support this second statement too with meaningless charts... this is another illogical or hysterical way of IMPOSING your weak ego. I explained more than sufficiently why Intel's efforts are appreciable a lot - it DOESN'T MEAN they already succeeded and it's obvious they can't quickly reach the same level as their competitors thou they have already improved, as they have always developed CHEAP and 2d oriented integrated gpu's for laptops before which requires to start almost from the start and change completely approach and design, and that's what they are doing - and there are reasons to support them if ever they succeed in improving their cards but clearly you are not here for any other reason than searching for someone who gives you more attention that you deserve and meking him wasting time, rather then reasoning on a product that might or not exist in the future.
You have the mental attitude of a spoiled teenager who's not able to understand how a project is developed, the context in which it is been developed, the time and efforts required and the difference from not appreciating some products and spreading childish not required judgement over the brand wholly and those who mantain a more ADULT approach that in the end might bring to buy or not an Intel card just on the results that come in the future not on the base of hysterical hate, whining and jumping on the chair screaming that Intel is bad because they are still worse than their competitors after ONE generation cards. Learn something about the history of hardware and those brands who left their footprints and you'll understand what it takes to reach a decent product when you decide to get competitive in a segment you 've never even be part of.
In short, the B580 was excellent value at launch and, after a rough time with MSRPs, still is.
there is another reason that makes Intel's card desirable especially for those less interested in gaming but rather in gpgpu: they provides cards with more memory than nVidia.
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TheinsanegamerN
BlurpyDon’t know why people kept saying it was canceled without actual evidence. I’ve been loving my b580 in my second rig can’t wait to pick one of these up at launch!
Something about the card being over a year late to market, with little evidence of its existence beyond software updates, with radio silence from intel PR as tot he card itself, MAY have something to do with why people thought it was canceled.

Clearly this card wont be releasing until 2026. It'll be over a year after the B580 released. At this rate it'll likely be late 2026, at which point the B580 will be almost 2 years old and the RX 10000 and RTX 6000 cards will be out.

If all intel can do is occasionally release a engineering driver, does the card actually exist? Is it really not a canceled piece of hardware, effectively, if intel never releases it?
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Deorc Mearh
TheinsanegamerNSomething about the card being over a year late to market, with little evidence of its existence beyond software updates, with radio silence from intel PR as tot he card itself, MAY have something to do with why people thought it was canceled.
no mercy but I agree. It's a pity. I think they struggled too much with the change of CEO and the change of plans. He contributed to make the stock fall everytime he made a public interview, he is a f.. idiot.
By the way formally Intel let know after the government imposed nVidia partecipation in Intel that they wont' give up their production and design of gpus. I think they might skip B770 and pass directly to C development.
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usiname
GeoffreyAWhen the B580 was released, and for many months afterwards, this was its performance assessment, beating the RTX 4060 and RX 7600, its main competitors:



In terms of value, it was at the top of the charts:


"The B580 poses considerable value as compared to the RTX 4060 and RX 7600. It is not always the best and trades with these cards, but is a serious competitor." --Gamers Nexus

Unfortunately, its near-universal acclaim as budget champion led its price going higher than MSRP. But, for some months now, it has dropped back to MSRP, or cheaper, making it excellent value, despite the RX 9060 XT and RTX 5060 being faster.

"At the lower end of the market, many 8GB cards are now available, competing with Intel's Arc Battlemage series. The good news is that the B580 is now readily available at its $250 MSRP across multiple regions, making it far more viable than in past months when it exceeded $300. Alongside the RX 9060 XT 8GB, it often ranks among the best cost-per-frame options." --Techspot

In short, the B580 was excellent value at launch and, after a rough time with MSRPs, still is.
Now reread your own quotes - It was not $250 card at the launch, it exceeded $300, while it was bad drivers at launch and what, 5% more performance than 4060 that was also $300 card? You are not sane if you get Intel card with same performance, same price and worse power consumption, drivers and tech stack. Today the performance different is 2%, rx 7600 also reduced the gap so Nvidia and AMD are the fine wine. Where are the improved drivers? It does not crash as it was at the launch? What a
Deorc Mearh1. you said I support the idea that b580 is a good card. I've never said that. I've said HERE it's false it costs the same as its competitors.
2. you fanatically screaming intel's cards are bad so those who hope Intel goes on developing cards are fanboy and support this second statement too with meaningless charts... this is another illogical or hysterical way of IMPOSING your weak ego. I explained more than sufficiently why Intel's efforts are appreciable a lot - it DOESN'T MEAN they already succeeded and it's obvious they can't quickly reach the same level as their competitors thou they have already improved, as they have always developed CHEAP and 2d oriented integrated gpu's for laptops before which requires to start almost from the start and change completely approach and design, and that's what they are doing - and there are reasons to support them if ever they succeed in improving their cards but clearly you are not here for any other reason than searching for someone who gives you more attention that you deserve and meking him wasting time, rather then reasoning on a product that might or not exist in the future.
You have the mental attitude of a spoiled teenager who's not able to understand how a project is developed, the context in which it is been developed, the time and efforts required and the difference from not appreciating some products and spreading childish not required judgement over the brand wholly and those who mantain a more ADULT approach that in the end might bring to buy or not an Intel card just on the results that come in the future not on the base of hysterical hate, whining and jumping on the chair screaming that Intel is bad because they are still worse than their competitors after ONE generation cards. Learn something about the history of hardware and those brands who left their footprints and you'll understand what it takes to reach a decent product when you decide to get competitive in a segment you 've never even be part of.


there is another reason that makes Intel's card desirable especially for those less interested in gaming but rather in gpgpu: they provides cards with more memory than nVidia.
The fact that I never said anything for the people except they are fanboys (since when it is insult by the way?) and you started to insult me and continue now. If you identify yourself as B580, I deeply sorry, I didn't know, although many fanboys has such problem and take the critic to their favorite product as critic to themselves and you are calling me childish? You are the one with problems, now continue your rambling how Intel improve and bla bla bla, when in fact their cards lose performance with the time and their "future proof" memory is nothing but a waste and their so called "efforts" that in the 80% of the cases end as cancelled projects and in the 10% are complete garbage that just waste silicon as the whole Arc series.
And if you believe that competition that eat from the share of the only real competitor is good thing, you are really wrong, but you don't have the capacity to understand something so complicated. Now keep rambling and call me childish or whatever you want, if this is how you make yourself happy, enjoy yourself
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Deorc Mearh
for those interested there's a leak about intel next B770 with chip BMG-G31 and 16GB of memory.
you can google to find the article(s).

It should again be something in the range of 5060 Ti and 9060xt.

to be verified if its traces are inside some drivers but Intel interrupted its development or it's still a live project (the source said they found the names with that chip and others inside an INF file)
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GeoffreyA
Deorc Mearhthere is another reason that makes Intel's card desirable especially for those less interested in gaming but rather in gpgpu: they provides cards with more memory than nVidia.
Yes, it works like a charm for compute. For Resolve, the card handles decoding, processing, and encoding. The Compute Runtime stack keeps on improving too.
Deorc Mearhfor those interested there's a leak about intel next B770 with chip BMG-G31 and 16GB of memory.
you can google to find the article(s).

It should again be something in the range of 5060 Ti and 9060xt.

to be verified if its traces are inside some drivers but Intel interrupted its development or it's still a live project (the source said they found the names with that chip and others inside an INF file)
They've been focusing a lot on non-Celestial Xe3 lately because of PTL. But it would be great to see the B770. With 60% more cores, it should match or beat the 9060 XT. Power consumption might be a different story though.
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Deorc Mearh
GeoffreyAYes, it works like a charm for compute. For Resolve, the card handles decoding, processing, and encoding. The Compute Runtime stack keeps on improving too.


They've been focusing a lot on non-Celestial Xe3 lately because of PTL. But it would be great to see the B770. With 60% more cores, it should match or beat the 9060 XT. Power consumption might be a different story though.
they are doing their phase of RnD and sell interesting experimental cards. I think it's clear it would be dangerous investing in higher segment cards when they still have issues of consumption with a lower number of cores. They are following a logical path to me. I hope this branch of Intel can survive while they improve.
I read about Celestial everywhere but I haven't read what is capable of compared to the older chips and I have not understood in which igpu they will use it. Not in Panther Lake's for I what I've learnt
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eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
DeathtoGnomesI think intel is leaning back on future developments because of the nvidia buy in, dont wanna kick the gift horse in the mouth.
By the time it arrives it will be dead to market at this rate
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