Monday, October 15th 2012

Windows 8 Gets "Overwhelmingly Negative" Response from Vendors, Expectations Plummet

An analyst with Topeka Capital, who was touring Asia, meeting sources among supply chains, brings bad news to Microsoft investors. Analyst Brian White notes that the sentiment (among vendors and parts of the supply chain) about Windows 8 remains "overwhelmingly negative." Expectations from Microsoft's new client operating system plummet, as vendors don't see much activity following the October 26 launch.

"Although October is expected to be the sweet spot for the notebook ramp for Windows 8, and further follow through is likely in November, we were warned of idle facilities in December," notes White. "One of our contacts does not expect Windows 8 to be material until the second-half of 2013," he added. In related news, the industry is also reeling from a disappointing reception from Intel's 2011-12 pet project in the client computing space, Ultrabook. "...the enthusiasm around the Ultrabook ramp has also deteriorated as the cost structure remains too high under Intel's specifications," White notes.Source: Business Insider
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231 Comments on Windows 8 Gets "Overwhelmingly Negative" Response from Vendors, Expectations Plummet

#1
silkstone
Is Windows 8 also moving more to a closed environment, in that applications will need to be "approved" by microsoft before they can run on windows 8, or is that just to be listed on the app store?
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#2
Easy Rhino
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eidairaman1 said:
wow
ha! thanks for making my point. /thread
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#3
Derek12
I bet Windows 9 would be more successful, following the famous Windows' "good-bad-good..." people comment on

Anyway I like Windows 8. It's very far from Vista IMO.

silkstone said:
Is Windows 8 also moving more to a closed environment, in that applications will need to be "approved" by microsoft before they can run on windows 8, or is that just to be listed on the app store?
Nope I can still run any "regular" programs not in the Windows Store. Or are you refering to Metro apps? In that case I don't know...

Maybe it will be similar to OSX or Android, there is a store but people can download & install any program from anywhere.


EDIT: I used a Chrome Canary build which, besides the regular one, there is a Metro Version, (like IE10), and was got from Google, so I think Metro Apps can be downloaded from anywhere too.
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#4
Dos101
silkstone said:
Is Windows 8 also moving more to a closed environment, in that applications will need to be "approved" by microsoft before they can run on windows 8, or is that just to be listed on the app store?
Apps listed in the Store need to be approved by MS, otherwise you can download/install apps the same as you did on Windows 7. All "Metro" apps though must be installed by using the Store, afaik anyways.
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#5
remixedcat
WinRT is closed windows 8 is still open
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#6
entropy13
Windows 8 “So Bad Microsoft Gave It 2 Moe Mascots”

Microsoft’s efforts to hawk Windows to otaku using the power of moe look to have reached their zenith with Windows 7′s Madobe Nanami, and quite possibly their nadir with the pair of generic ‘blobs trotted out to support sales of Windows 8, apparently the most loathed Windows OS since Vista.

Windows 8 (or the 64 bit Pro “DSP” edition at any rate) is being graced by no less than two new mascots – Madobe Yuu and Madobe Ai (“yuuai” = “friendship”), who come with a special “Wedge” ita-mouse.

Perhaps in keeping with the other discrepancies between Windows 7 and 8, moe-OS fans cannot help but notice the seiyuu casting has gone from Nana Mizuki as Nanami to Asuka Nishi (whose roles include such memorable performances as Pupil D and Maid B) as Yuu and Nao Tamura (so obscure her Wikipedia page is empty and threatened with deletion) as Ai.

Art featuring the new characters, official or otherwise, is so far conspicuously absent.
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#7
hellrazor
I have no idea what you just said.
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#8
mediasorcerer
Easy Rhino said:
you don't think a faster OS is a reason to upgrade?
How much faster? 100$ faster , or less:eek:? Im warming to the idea, boils down to is it necessary atm.
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#9
Lazzer408
I LOVE Windows 8! Want to know why? Because I'll make a TON of money upgrading peoples computers to Windows 7 just like I did when I had to upgrade them to XP from Vista.

If GM were Microsoft, your new car would have the gas pedal on the left, brake on the right, turn-signal lever moved into the glove box which is now located under the drivers seat, and the spare tire eliminated because 99.99% of drivers don't use it.


hellrazor said:
I have no idea what you just said.
I think he's talking about this. http://kotaku.com/5951169/nothing-says-windows-8-quite-like-anime-schoolgirls
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#10
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
mediasorcerer said:
How much faster? 100$ faster , or less:eek:? Im warming to the idea, boils down to is it necessary atm.
i would say about 10% faster for most applications. games definitely run smoother as well.

and just a side note, i find it interesting that the vast majority of people on tpu spend ridiculous amounts of cash on hardware every year but are so frivolous when it comes to spending $100 once every 3 or 4 years on an operating system. think about it people!
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#11
Fourstaff
Easy Rhino said:
i would say about 10% faster for most applications. games definitely run smoother as well.

and just a side note, i find it interesting that the vast majority of people on tpu spend ridiculous amounts of cash on hardware every year but are so frivolous when it comes to spending $100 once every 3 or 4 years on an operating system. think about it people!
You can fap to hardware but not to software. Just sayin ;)

Also, people don't like change, especially if there is pain involved, even if its for the better.
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#12
Easy Rhino
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Fourstaff said:

but without the software how can you get on youporn and fap :confused: :laugh:
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#13
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
PopcornMachine said:
Intelligent people get it. Stupid people don't.
Ok.
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#14
Depth
Easy Rhino said:
and just a side note, i find it interesting that the vast majority of people on tpu spend ridiculous amounts of cash on hardware every year but are so frivolous when it comes to spending $100 once every 3 or 4 years on an operating system. think about it people!
An increase in hardware makes a few high numbers go even higher and a few low numbers go even lower. An OS is what you actually interact with from day to day.

Money isn't what the discussion is about, money is just a "side note" to exclaim that people save $100 by staying with an OS they prefer.


And because I'm making a bit too much sense at the moment here is a cat rolling a watermelon out of a lake.

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Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
Depth said:


Money isn't what the discussion is about, money is just a "side note" to exclaim that people save $100 by staying with an OS they prefer.
it all comes down to money. windows 8 is faster in every way over windows 7 and it takes 5 minutes to download and install a start menu that disables metro and makes windows 8 act JUST LIKE windows 7.

there is no excuse not to spend the $100 to upgrade if you spend 10x that amount every year on hardware. people are just being silly.
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#17
Depth
Easy Rhino said:
it all comes down to money. windows 8 is faster in every way over windows 7 and it takes 5 minutes to download and install a start menu that disables metro and makes windows 8 act JUST LIKE windows 7.

there is no excuse to spend the $100 to upgrade if you spend 10x that amount every year on hardware. people are just being silly.
So I need 3rd party software to make the desktop OS actually fit a desktop machine? Should all the "overwhelmingly negative responses from vendors" be told to Google this alternate interface?

There are people with $5000 hardware still running XP, do you think they are too just being silly, or could there be some link where users avoid products that strongly deviate from what they feel is successful?
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#18
TheMailMan78
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Depth said:
So I need 3rd party software to make the desktop OS actually fit a desktop machine? Should all the "overwhelmingly negative responses from vendors" be told to Google this alternate interface?

There are people with $5000 hardware still running XP, do you think they are too just being silly, or could there be some link where users avoid products that strongly deviate from what they feel is successful?
People are scared of change. If they have "$5000 hardware still running XP" they are idiots.
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Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
Depth said:
So I need 3rd party software to make the desktop OS actually fit a desktop machine? Should all the "overwhelmingly negative responses from vendors" be told to Google this alternate interface?
You mean you don't currently download software that improves your desktop experience? You mean you don't download 3rd party tools that help you improve your overclock? You see, downloading a bit of software to improve and tweak your UI is not uncommon by any stretch of the imagination. YOU ALREADY DO IT!
There are people with $5000 hardware still running XP, do you think they are too just being silly, or could there be some link where users avoid products that strongly deviate from what they feel is successful?
If you are running XP on a $5000 rig then you spent a whole lot of money on a rig that can't even do dx 11... Also, I would love to see some examples of those people you speak of...
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#20
Dos101
TheMailMan78 said:
People are scared of change. If they have "$5000 hardware still running XP" they are idiots.
Easy Rhino said:
You mean you don't currently download software that improves your desktop experience? You mean you don't download 3rd party tools that help you improve your overclock? You see, downloading a bit of software to improve and tweak your UI is not uncommon by any stretch of the imagination. YOU ALREADY DO IT!



If you are running XP on a $5000 rig then you spent a whole lot of money on a rig that can't even do dx 11... Also, I would love to see some examples of those people you speak of...
I would just let it go guys, some people are never going to accept that Windows 8 is the future of Windows. Change is always hard for some people to accept. Just be happy that you're using Windows 8 and enjoy the experience. :toast:
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#21
Depth
I fold, $5000 hardware for XP was pushing it :o A lot of people migrated from XP to Windows 7 skipping Vista just like people are now skipping Windows 8.

Easy Rhino said:
You mean you don't currently download software that improves your desktop experience?
No, I don't.

Easy Rhino said:
You mean you don't download 3rd party tools that help you improve your overclock?
BIOS. I use 3rd party software to test the stability of overclocks, not because the system requires a fundamental change.

Easy Rhino said:
You see, downloading a bit of software to improve and tweak your UI is not uncommon by any stretch of the imagination. YOU ALREADY DO IT!
YOU already do it. And now you're enforcing it on me. If people like vanilla icecream then serving them chocolate and asking them to find some 3rd party vanilla to smear on it completely negates the point of getting out the chocolate in the first place.
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#22
PopcornMachine
You must like the ice cream he likes, or you're just not a good person. :eek::confused::D:laugh:
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#23
TheMailMan78
Big Member
I wonder what all the cry babies are gonna do when windows 9 comes out and there is still no start button. :laugh:
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#24
Fourstaff
TheMailMan78 said:
People are scared of change. If they have "$5000 hardware still running XP" they are idiots.
London Tube (underground) ads on the elevators and escalators runs on XP, and those things certainly costs more than $5000. Are they idiots?
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TheMailMan78
Big Member
Fourstaff said:
London Tube (underground) ads on the elevators and escalators runs on XP, and those things certainly costs more than $5000. Are they idiots?
Yes.
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