Friday, March 24th 2017

AMD's Rumoured Upcoming 16-core Part to Reportedly Run at 3.1/3.6 GHz

Some rumors and whispers have been making the rounds lately, regarding a HEDT platform incoming from AMD. This platform (built upon a new X399 chipset planned exclusively for it) would use a cut-down version of the Naples-based server SP3 socket called SP3r2. SP3r2 and the new chip will reportedly offer quad channel memory support, pitting them directly in competition with Intel's HEDT lineup in terms of memory bandwidth.

Reportedly, engineering samples of the 180W 16-core Ryzen currently run at 3.1 GHz Base, 3.6 GHz Boost clocks, which leads towards performance in the level of two Ryzen 7 1700 chips. If the rumors are true and such a platform is in development, then we will surely hear of some more chips designed for it. Going through the trouble of creating a new chipset and platform for a single CPU model doesn't seem likely. Perhaps some 12-core and 20-core chips are lurking just below the surface?
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50 Comments on AMD's Rumoured Upcoming 16-core Part to Reportedly Run at 3.1/3.6 GHz

#1
alucasa
180w tdp is pretty high. But 16 cores @ 3.0+ghz is very high. I guess that's the trade off.

As far as I know, E5-2699v4 is rated at 150w tdp with 22cores @ 2.2ghz (turbo 3.5ghz or something. I don't know all core turbo but I reckon it should be at 2.7ghz at all core turbo.).

The half Naples chip should come close to 2699v4 at probably 2k price tag.

P.S. 2699v4 ES is available at 1k which is still way out of my league.
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#2
neko77025
all the cores are useless if you can only use 16gb of RAM.

Really wanted to get A new Ryzen rig for VMs ect ect .. but from what I have read on the RAM support just nixes what I want to do.
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#3
TheGuruStud
neko77025 said:
all the cores are useless if you can only use 16gb of RAM.

Really wanted to get A new Ryzen rig for VMs ect ect .. but from what I have read on the RAM support just nixes what I want to do.
Wut?
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#4
Brusfantomet
neko77025 said:
all the cores are useless if you can only use 16gb of RAM.

Really wanted to get A new Ryzen rig for VMs ect ect .. but from what I have read on the RAM support just nixes what I want to do.
considering this new platform appear to be consumer ryzen x 2 you will get 32 GiB at highest speed, and you can go down to a slower memory speed for more ram.
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#5
hojnikb
Will amd provide an enthusiast platform like X99 for these processors ? Or is it sever only ?
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#6
TheGuruStud
Brusfantomet said:
considering this new platform appear to be consumer ryzen x 2 you will get 32 GiB at highest speed, and you can go down to a slower memory speed for more ram.
Or buy single rank 16GB sticks (which are the best performing), so you're not a chump, and have 64GB of the highest speed the MB allows.
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#7
TheLostSwede
hojnikb said:
Will amd provide an enthusiast platform like X99 for these processors ? Or is it sever only ?
Did you not understand anything of the original post or are you just trying to be funny? That's exactly what this is.
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#8
ironwolf
180W isn't really too terribly bad. The leaked gold/platinum Xeon list from the other day had listings up to 205W I think.
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#9
uuuaaaaaa
hojnikb said:
Will amd provide an enthusiast platform like X99 for these processors ? Or is it sever only ?
This should be AMD's X99 competitor. High core count and quad memory channel. Their server Naples cpu has 32C/64T (64Mb L3 cache?) and 8 channel memory.
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#10
Captain_Tom
This would just completely wipe the floor with Intel's i7-6950X. 60% more cores running at higher speeds!!!


Hell even Skylake-X will get curb-stomped by this. I wonder if Intel could even release something to compete. All of there Xeon's are clocked lower, and if they tried to compete it might be a 200w+ chip...
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#11
Foobario
The initial benchmarks made me think Ryzen would be perfect for Apple's Mac Pro lineup. Then I realized that 8cores/16 threads is the entry level status for the Mac Pro and it seemed unlikely Apple would use AMD.

Now it seems, AMD is gonna have chips to cover the entire product stack for the Mac Pro so it seems more likely that one of the biggest user bases for content creation, Mac Pro users, could be making the shift from Intel to AMD courtesy of Apple.
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#12
JMccovery
neko77025 said:
all the cores are useless if you can only use 16gb of RAM.

Really wanted to get A new Ryzen rig for VMs ect ect .. but from what I have read on the RAM support just nixes what I want to do.
Please explain for me the math you used to arrive at being limited to 16GB.
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#13
spooh
neko77025 said:
all the cores are useless if you can only use 16gb of RAM.

Really wanted to get A new Ryzen rig for VMs ect ect .. but from what I have read on the RAM support just nixes what I want to do.
Some people already reports having 2x16GB at 3200. Asus said it's going to be way easier after next bios update.
And then we have announced Ryzen microcode update in May aimed at improving memspeeds maybe up to 4500.
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#14
Aldain
This thing if even real is the x299 competitor
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#15
xorbe
TheGuruStud said:
single rank 16GB sticks
Are these a thing? Link?
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#16
TheLostSwede
If this proves to be the real deal... oh boy... Looks a bit odd though...

Edit: So having had a better look, it looks like a rough draft of an Asus board, as it has a TPU, EPU, Aura and LanGuard, all Asus proprietary things.

I also don't understand why a new board like this would be equipped with FireWire, does anyone still use that? Note that a lot of things are seemingly just suggestions of what could go in the slots and the x8 slots are shared with the x16 slots.




Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/618blp/x399_and_x390_leak/
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#17
alucasa
What's so surprising about that?
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#18
RejZoR
Looks same as my X99...
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#20
RejZoR
16 core, 32 threads through. AMD is really going full aggressive with the crunching power this round.
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#21
alucasa
Pretty sure the price will be high side of 1k. Mid 1k at best. It will be out of league for most of people.

It's still better to go after Xeon on Ebay.
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#22
NicklasAPJ
Hopefuld it can beat a 6950x / 4,4Ghz i Firestirke/Timespy!

1800x was a major dissapointment under air/water...
so hope this time they can do it right and I buy it!
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#23
alucasa
Doh... benchmarks... Please tell me you buy such a high end CPU for things other than benchmarks....
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#24
cadaveca
My name is Dave
TheLostSwede said:
I also don't understand why a new board like this would be equipped with FireWire, does anyone still use that?
For use as a DAW (Digital Audio Workstation). FireWire is still the defacto standard for audio. There are still devices in the "pro-audio" world that are thousands of dollars that use FireWire to connect to other devices since many people still use quite old gear they favor that need that connectivity. Since many HEDT users are audio/video production people, not having FireWire would be a bad mistake (for latency reasons, MIDI over FireWire is still a wanted feature).
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#25
Kyuuba
NicklasAPJ said:
Hopefuld it can beat a 6950x / 4,4Ghz i Firestirke/Timespy!

1800x was a major dissapointment under air/water...
so hope this time they can do it right and I buy it!
Do you buy processors based on this?
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