Friday, March 31st 2017

AMD "Polaris" Based Radeon RX 570 and RX 580 Pictured

AMD is preparing new SKUs based on its "Polaris 10" silicon, which are built on a more refined 14 nm FinFET process, to facilitate higher GPU clock speeds, and improved energy efficiency. These include the Radeon RX 580 and the Radeon RX 570. The reference-design boards of the two were pictured, and aren't strictly "rebadged" RX 480 and RX 470. The two feature higher clocks, and are supported by a redesigned VRM. The RX 570 draws power from a single 6-pin PCIe power connector, while the RX 580 draws it from a single 8-pin connector.

The core-configurations of the RX 580 and RX 570 aren't different from their predecessors - the RX 580 still features 2,304 stream processors, and the RX 570 features 2,048, but clock speeds are increased across the board. The RX 580 ticks at about 1340 MHz (vs. 1266 MHz of the RX 480), with its memory speed unchanged at 8.00 GHz (GDDR5-effective), while the RX 570 is clocked at 1244 MHz (vs. 1206 MHz of the RX 470), with its memory clock slightly increased to 7.00 GHz. The two cards also seem to do away with the DVI port. According to VideoCardz, the two cards could launch on the 18th of April, 2017.

Source: VideoCardz
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41 Comments on AMD "Polaris" Based Radeon RX 570 and RX 580 Pictured

#1
P4-630
The Way It's Meant to be Played
@Ungari don't wet your pants...:p
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#2
Dj-ElectriC
I wanna know if they kept the pricing or what
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#3
madness777
They put an 8-pin instead of 6-pin because of the false power target which the RX4xx series had hahaha :roll:
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#4
ShurikN
I've said it before, but unless these cards can easily hit 1500+ under 150W they are gonna fail. Well unless the 580 goes for $150 (which it won't, let's not kid ourselves)
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#6
RejZoR
RX580 should be clocked to at least 1400MHz on GPU and 9000 MHz on VRAM to make any kind of sense as a successor to RX480.
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#7
IcePick
HAHA look at that coke nail and the horrible TIM job. this is too funny.
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#8
NdMk2o1o
RX 580 just in time for my ryzen build at the end of April, happy days ahead :toast:
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#9
KainXS
Rehasheon strikes again, looks like nothing major changed, the 480 needed moar bandwidth and they still did not increase it with the 580:shadedshu:.
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#10
jabbadap
madness777 said:
They put an 8-pin instead of 6-pin because of the false power target which the RX4xx series had hahaha :roll:
Hope they fixed power routing too, or it's just pointless.

To be absolutely honest I'm not quite fond on rebrands. Looking the specs, price is the only thing what can make these attractive.
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#11
Ubersonic
Nice to see the DVI port exiting the room, now we just need it's brother the HDMI port to follow and we will have full 21st century DP goodness ^^
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#12
TheinsanegamerN
I am amazed that AMD is going with rebrands, after a mediocre year of non competing. cmon AMD, you finally have a CPU worth buying, and your GPU department fell asleep at the wheel again? Not even a bigger polaris chip?

I mean, itll be another year of AMD's x8x chip competing against nvidia's xx6x chip. AMD's x9x chip will most likely be a 1070 competitor, with the 1080 and ti being completely unopposed for another year, assuming they actually get vega out on time.
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#13
Dj-ElectriC
zo0lykas said:
looks like fake picture, because they promise HBM memory, not ddr5
Get in context. They will use HBM Gen.2 for RX Vega, not for the rebranded Polaris cards. They will still use old GDDR5 chips.
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#14
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Vega (aka RX Vega) has HBM2, Polaris (aka RX 480/RX 580) does not.

Considering that the stated performance on the memory of RX 580 is unchanged from RX 480, it's still using ye olde GDDR5 instead of GDDR5X too.
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#15
ZoneDymo
zo0lykas said:
looks like fake picture, because they promise HBM memory, not ddr5
you do realize this is just the replacement for the midrange RX480 right?
This is not Vega....

On topic, as long as the price is right (meaning lower then the rx480) I might just have to get this card.
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#16
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
TheinsanegamerN said:
I am amazed that AMD is going with rebrands, after a mediocre year of non competing. cmon AMD, you finally have a CPU worth buying, and your GPU department fell asleep at the wheel again? Not even a bigger polaris chip?
GloFo is probably too busy keeping up with Ryzen demand to manufacturer Vega. :roll:
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#17
NdMk2o1o
ZoneDymo said:
you do realize this is just the replacement for the midrange RX480 right?
This is not Vega....

On topic, as long as the price is right (meaning lower then the rx480) I might just have to get this card.
Why would it be priced lower?? It will be priced the same and replace the 480
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#18
ZoneDymo
NdMk2o1o said:
Why would it be priced lower?? It will be priced the same and replace the 480
Why? well.... to make it sell of course.
I have not bought an RX480 yet, if it were to drop in price I might.
Price drops are always a motivator for buyers, its competing with the GTX1060 so drop the price and sell some units.
Seems pretty logical to me.
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#19
hojnikb
Pretty missed opportunity to use the new 9Gbit gddr5 memory. Also i see they are still using this shit cooler.
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#20
NdMk2o1o
ZoneDymo said:
Why? well.... to make it sell of course.
I have not bought an RX480 yet, if it were to drop in price I might.
Price drops are always a motivator for buyers, its competing with the GTX1060 so drop the price and sell some units.
Seems pretty logical to me.
480's don't have an issue selling regardless if you don't want to pay for one...
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#21
Nergal
Nothing much to see here tbh, just an update of their RX4xx line.
Which is a GOOD line and a preference over the NV-line in their segment.;)
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#22
HD64G
A good move from AMD could be to also upgrade VRAM to GDDR5X in order to allow their arch to show its power. Many have clearly showed that RX480 with stock core clock and only its VRAM oced gives benefits in performance. So, if they suceed in having stable core clock at 1340MHz (opposing the <1200MHz that the stock RX480 had in gaming due to throttling because of the power limit in drivers to keep it close to 150W) with faster VRAM, they could bring improvements in most games by about 10-15%. That would be a successful refresh indeed. Let's see what they wil bring to the table now.
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#23
Apocalypsee
HD64G said:
A good move from AMD could be to also upgrade VRAM to GDDR5X in order to allow their arch to show its power. Many have clearly showed that RX480 with stock core clock and only its VRAM oced gives benefits in performance. So, if they suceed in having stable core clock at 1340MHz (opposing the <1200MHz that the stock RX480 had in gaming due to throttling because of the power limit in drivers to keep it close to 150W) with faster VRAM, they could bring improvements in most games by about 10-15%. That would be a successful refresh indeed. Let's see what they wil bring to the table now.
Agreed, if it really just slightly higher core clock don't bother. It really needs faster RAM like GDDR5X to shine
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#24
kruk
AMD burned most of its R&D cash on Ryzen (a very smart move) and majority of the rest went to Vega. It makes absolutely no sense to invest in the Polaris 10/11 chips anymore as they cover the needs of the majority of the gamers.

GDDR5X could probably add some speed, but:
a) it probably costs a lot of money to implement it, which AMD doesn't have
b) the cards won't reach 1070 levels no matter how fast the RAM speed is, they are already competitive with 1060 which matters most
c) it will probably increase card costs to a level where they will have a questionable perf/price
d) the competition doesn't seem to plan any refreshes with major performance boosts

If the RX 500 series solves the majority of the RX 400 series problems (too high voltage which causes stability problems), they already done a good enough job.

They should however have released the cards as RX 485, RX 475, and RX 465 and most of the complaints would go away.
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#25
oxidized
kruk said:
AMD burned most of its R&D cash on Ryzen (a very smart move) and majority of the rest went to Vega. It makes absolutely no sense to invest in the Polaris 10/11 chips anymore as they cover the needs of the majority of the gamers.

GDDR5X could probably add some speed, but:
a) it probably costs a lot of money to implement it, which AMD doesn't have
b) the cards won't reach 1070 levels no matter how fast the RAM speed is, they are already competitive with 1060 which matters most
c) it will probably increase card costs to a level where they will have a questionable perf/price
d) the competition doesn't seem to plan any refreshes with major performance boosts

If the RX 500 series solves the majority of the RX 400 series problems (too high voltage which causes stability problems), they already done a good enough job.

They should however have released the cards as RX 485, RX 475, and RX 465 and most of the complaints would go away.
Agreed 100%
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