Friday, May 19th 2017
AMD Ryzen 2000 Series Processors Based on Refined 14 nm Process
At its Analyst Day follow-up conference call, AMD confirmed that the company could build a new generation of Ryzen processors on 14 nm (albeit refined 14 nm) process, before transitioning to "Zen2," which will be built on the 7 nm process. As the first "Zen" based products built on the 14 nm process, the Ryzen "Summit Ridge" processors are based on the current-generation 14 nm FinFET process. AMD hopes to tap into a more refined version of this process before moving on to "Zen 2."
This could indicate that AMD's next generation of Ryzen processors, likely the Ryzen # 2xxx series, could be minor incremental updates to the current product stack, likely in the form of higher clock speeds or better energy-efficiency facilitated by the refined 14 nm process, but nothing major in the way of micro-architecture. Assuming the current Ryzen product stack, which will be augmented by Ryzen 3 series, Ryzen Pro series, and Ryzen APUs in the second half of 2017; last till mid-2018, one could expect a follow-up or refreshed Ryzen # 2xxx series run up to another year, before AMD makes a "leapfrog" upgrade to the 7 nm process with "Zen2," in all likelihood, by 2019.
This could indicate that AMD's next generation of Ryzen processors, likely the Ryzen # 2xxx series, could be minor incremental updates to the current product stack, likely in the form of higher clock speeds or better energy-efficiency facilitated by the refined 14 nm process, but nothing major in the way of micro-architecture. Assuming the current Ryzen product stack, which will be augmented by Ryzen 3 series, Ryzen Pro series, and Ryzen APUs in the second half of 2017; last till mid-2018, one could expect a follow-up or refreshed Ryzen # 2xxx series run up to another year, before AMD makes a "leapfrog" upgrade to the 7 nm process with "Zen2," in all likelihood, by 2019.
49 Comments on AMD Ryzen 2000 Series Processors Based on Refined 14 nm Process
-6-8 cores (With or without HT)
-5.2GHz+ on the first core, 4.8GHz+ on all of the other cores. (Clocking the first core faster would help with the unavoidable overhead all API's have)
-A massive low-latency cache of EDRAM like Broadwell to reduce frametimes
^If this could post across the board 15-20% performance over everything else and last a long time, I would pay $399+ for it.
Until then it doesn't matter. 1800X, 1600X, 6700K, 6900K, and on and on. They all game quite fine, but people need to stop acting like a 10% win at a certain resolution matters. Price is the determining factor unless you are a fool lol.
Tell me you don't want a CPU like that, and then honestly tell me it's impossible. Intel could totally make that if they wanted too.
Until then, 1800X, 7700K, 1600X, and 6900K are all basically the same...
The best way Intel can continue to improve gaming performance is to improve their branch prediction to minimize cache misses, even with lower end CPUs with little cache.
Even at $499, this hypothetical CPU would sell quite well imo. Oh, and please don't tell me they "Can't". 5.2GHz is far from unheard from on 7700K's, and please keep in mind that I said on the first core. The rest could be clocked 10% slower with no performance penalty.
Of course we ALL would love to have a CPU like that, who wouldnt? but its not going to happen anytime soon, at a guess it would take many many more yrs to get anything close to that out of the box and that is a big IF, current Arch just cant do it from both sides.
Could intel do it right now if they wanted to? I honestly dont think they can. Yes they have tons of R&D money but again I cant see them getting anything close to that for a good 10yrs, its takes alot of work and time and money to design a new chip and that clock speed your asking is bloody high!
Though people keep saying that it's not the fastest for gaming, there isn't a single title that I own that doesn't get at least 100 FPS. My graphic cards are two Vega Frontier Edition, the fist one I paid full price for, the second I got through eBay for only 280 CHF, yep, that's all, the housing was scratched up, hence the cheaper price but since I'm using a water cooling solution the housing didn't matter to me. By the way I'm using EKWB's blocks and black-plates. I'm also using EKWB for the CPU as they have a fantastic kit that contains almost everything you need. I say almost as I went with a hard-line solution as it just looked better with my In-Win X-Frame Case that I also got on eBay. After adding in 128GB of 2666 DDR4 RAM, 2x Samsung M.2 512GB 960 drives (I run 2 OS's, Windows 10 and CentOS with VMWare Workstation (that runs, Lakka (a game emulation OS that plays damn near everything (we have around 2,000 games for it) I also have 4 replica game controllers for each emulator installed, i.e. PlayStation 1,2,3, N64, DreamCast, GameCube, Sega, SNES, NES, NeoGEO, arcade games, etc.), Android, Kodi, Windows 10, OSX, Steam, etc.)
The beauty of this is that I can run multiple systems at once, so while I'm working in the office, the kids can be watching movies on Netflix/HBO/ShowTime/Hulu/PopcornTime, Zatto (which is a local app for watching TV in Switzerland, 4K) Kodi (with around 30 apps/sources that contain thousands of videos), playing games, whatever on the TV, there is also no lag in this, in fact it's damn near perfect. I obviously also use my PC also as our entertainment system for the TV. My office is the room next to the living room so I just drilled hole in the wall and connected the TV to the PC, as well as the VR setup. I control the whole thing with a Logitech remote and ROCCAT Sova, well that is when I'm in the living room.
So when all was done and built, the total price came out to be 2,400 CHF. What I got for that is the most powerful computer I have ever owned and was worth every penny. The point of all this was, I have yet to begun to tax this system and can't imagine anything that will. I mean I can play GTA V on the TV while I'm encoding a video, compiling an application, downloading multiple files, etc. without a single hint of lag, I think I'll be fine for the next 3 years, at least. Ryzen is the CPU you want if your goal is to run multiple tasks at once, definitely get as much ram as you can afford, I recommend at last 64. You know, I would get the Ryzen CPU for any task as it's just so amazing, unstoppable.