Wednesday, January 31st 2018

HWiNFO Adds Support For Upcoming AMD CPUs, GPUs, Others

PC diagnostics tool HW Info has added support for future, as-of-yet unreleased AMD CPUs and GPUs, which seemingly confirm some earlier news on AMD's plans for their next-generation offerings. HWiNFO's v5.72 update adds support for upcoming AMD Navi GPUs, Pinnacle Ridge, 400-series motherboards (which should make their market debut alongside AMD's Zen+ CPUs), and enhanced support for AMD's Starship, Matisse and Radeon RX Vega M. We already touched upon AMD's Matisse codename in the past: it's expected to refer to the company's Zen 2 microarchitecture, which will bring architecture overhauls of the base Zen design - alongside a 7 nm process - in order to bring enhanced performance and better power consumption.

Starship, on the other hand, is a previously leaked evolution of AMD's current Naples offering that powers their EPYC server CPUs. Starship has been rumored to have been canceled, and then put back on the product schedule again; if anything, its inclusion in HWiNFO's latest version does point towards it having made the final cut, after all. Starship will bring to businesses an increased number of cores and threads (48/96) compared to Naples' current top-tier offering (32/64), alongside a 7 nm manufacturing process.
Other interesting additions to the latest version of HWiNFO include enhanced support for Intel's Ice Lake-SP (ICX), expected to be Intel's adaptation of its server-side architecture towards the high-performance desktop CPU market, and reference to NVIDIA's Quadro V100 (likely a re-purposed Tesla V100 accelerator).
Sources: HWiNFO, via Reddit, via VideoCardz
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15 Comments on HWiNFO Adds Support For Upcoming AMD CPUs, GPUs, Others

#2
Jism
"AnarchoPrimitiv said:
Wow, 48 cores? That's density
Proberly limited in clockspeeds, around 150 up to 200W TDP.
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#3
dicktracy
Can’t wait for Zen2 vs Ice Lake HEDT battle. 32 cores will probably be considered weak sauce by then.
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lexluthermiester
"dicktracy said:
Can’t wait for Zen2 vs Ice Lake HEDT battle. 32 cores will probably be considered weak sauce by then.
Disagree. 6-core CPU's are still good performers and are considered upper mid-range. 16core CPU's have only just reached the mainstream HEDT market. Those CPU's will be relevant for at least 6 or 7 years yet, to say nothing of 32cores.
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evernessince
"dicktracy said:
Can’t wait for Zen2 vs Ice Lake HEDT battle. 32 cores will probably be considered weak sauce by then.
I wouldn't hold your breath for Ice Lake. It's just another small refinement of their 10nm process and at best a 5% IPC increase. Zen2 is supposed to be a 15% increase in IPC along with the power savings, additional cores, and higher frequencies that come with 7nm processes it will be using.
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#6
lexluthermiester
"evernessince said:
I wouldn't hold your breath for Ice Lake.
They will have fixes for Meltdown & Spectre built in, so there is that.
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#7
dicktracy
"evernessince said:
I wouldn't hold your breath for Ice Lake. It's just another small refinement of their 10nm process and at best a 5% IPC increase. Zen2 is supposed to be a 15% increase in IPC along with the power savings, additional cores, and higher frequencies that come with 7nm processes it will be using.
Their 7nm isn’t really 7nm and Ice Lake is also expected to give moar cores to prosumers and consumers. Best to wait for reviews instead of believing everything AMD says. Remember AMD saying the 1800x beats the 6900k? Yeah, only on Cinebench and is slower in everything else especially in gaming.
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lexluthermiester
"dicktracy said:
Their 7nm isn’t really 7nm
Oh? What is it?
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dicktracy
"lexluthermiester said:
Oh? What is it?
A refined 14nm.
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#10
lexluthermiester
"dicktracy said:
A refined 14nm.
Would like to read up on it. Where'd you find that info?
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dicktracy
"lexluthermiester said:
Disagree. 6-core CPU's are still good performers and are considered upper mid-range. 16core CPU's have only just reached the mainstream HEDT market. Those CPU's will be relevant for at least 6 or 7 years yet, to say nothing of 32cores.
Technology never stops at “good enuff.” I’m expecting Zen2 aka Ryzen 3 to give 16 cores for the mainstream and even crazier for HEDT. I don’t see Intel staying still and not retaliating especially when they too can play the moar cores game with their mesh topology.

"lexluthermiester said:
Would like to read up on it. Where'd you find that info?
https://www.anandtech.com/show/11854/globalfoundries-adds-12lp-process-tech-amd-first-customer
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#13
Shamalamadingdong
"dicktracy said:
Technology never stops at “good enuff.” I’m expecting Zen2 aka Ryzen 3 to give 16 cores for the mainstream and even crazier for HEDT. I don’t see Intel staying still and not retaliating especially when they too can play the moar cores game with their mesh topology.


https://www.anandtech.com/show/11854/globalfoundries-adds-12lp-process-tech-amd-first-customer
I think you grossly misread that article then.
12nm is a refinement of 14nm.
7nm is a completely new process with no relation to 14nm at all.
14nm was licensed from Samsung while 7nm was bought from IBM.
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#15
Kaotik
"dicktracy said:
A refined 14nm.
No it's not, you're mixing 12nm and 7nm. GloFo 12nm is refined 14nm, it was renamed because TSMC renamed their refined 16nm to 12nm. GloFos 7nm however is completely new process designed inhouse and not licensed from anyone else like 14nm was from Samsung.

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Am I the only one who can't see any mention of Starship or Matisse in the screenshot or HWInfo's homepage and change notes?
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