Wednesday, March 8th 2017

AMD Readies Ryzen Threadripper SKUs based on "Pinnacle Ridge" Dies

Hot on the heels of this morning's big AMD Ryzen 2000-series slide dump, comes a new roadmap slide that gives a larger overview of how AMD is addressing various client processor market segments. It begins with the mention of a 2nd generation Ryzen Threadripper series launch within 2018. These chips presumably, are multi-chip modules of the company's new 12 nm "Pinnacle Ridge" silicon, and will be compatible with existing AMD X399 chipset motherboards through BIOS updates. The "Pinnacle Ridge" silicon supports higher clock-speeds, has several microarchitecture refinements, and a few new overclocker-centric features.

The better news is that company seems to be updating its HEDT processor lineup every year; and that the current Threadripper series isn't a one-off halo product like its Athlon64 FX "QuadFX" 2P platform. With "Pinnacle Ridge" based Threadripper 2000-series MCMs slated for 2018; 2019 will see the launch of the new "Castle Peak" HEDT processor. It's not known if this is an MCM. The spiritual successor to "Pinnacle Ridge" is "Matisse." This is Zen 2 based, and will have significant changes to the core design, presenting AMD with an opportunity to review the way it arranges cores. "Picasso" succeeds "Raven Ridge" as the company's Zen 2-based APUs. "Picasso," along with "Matisse" and "Castle Peak" could see AMD implement GlobalFoundries' new 7 nm silicon fabrication process, given its 2019 timeline. 2020 will see their refined avatars - an unnamed "Next-Gen HEDT" chip, "Vermeer," and "Renoir," respectively.
Source: Informatica Cero
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44 Comments on AMD Readies Ryzen Threadripper SKUs based on "Pinnacle Ridge" Dies

#26
nemesis.ie
It's also too easy to just mistype something when writing quickly, as the names are so similar. ;)
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#27
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Hope to see this in action, 2950X.
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#28
theGryphon
At some point I'm hoping, AMD will release a TR4 CPU with GPU cores. A collosal APU if you will. 8-core CPU coupled with 28-core (1792-shader) Vega GPU should currently be doable at 180W TDP, potentially better hardware with the 7nm process. This would be of great service to us customers facing unreal GPU prices due to cryptomining. Despite some predictions that GPUs for cryptomining will eventually die, I'm sorry to say that I don't see that happening anytime soon or later. If AMD did this, they could charge some good premium but it would still be a worthy buy for customers compared to dGPU prices.

AIB's already showed mATX is doable with TR4, and I'm pretty sure mITX is also doable but just requires the will. Think about the high-end gaming machines that would be enabled in ~3lt chassis.
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#29
Patriot
theGryphon said:
At some point I'm hoping, AMD will release a TR4 CPU with GPU cores. A collosal APU if you will. 8-core CPU coupled with 28-core (1792-shader) Vega GPU should currently be doable at 180W TDP, potentially better hardware with the 7nm process. This would be of great service to us customers facing unreal GPU prices due to cryptomining. Despite some predictions that GPUs for cryptomining will eventually die, I'm sorry to say that I don't see that happening anytime soon or later. If AMD did this, they could charge some good premium but it would still be a worthy buy for customers compared to dGPU prices.

AIB's already showed mATX is doable with TR4, and I'm pretty sure mITX is also doable but just requires the will. Think about the high-end gaming machines that would be enabled in ~3lt chassis.
2066 is barely doable with itx.... TR4 socket is twice as big... no freaking way man.
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#30
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Patriot said:
2066 is barely doable with itx.... TR4 socket is twice as big... no freaking way man.
Yup I only see board renders, it's possible but not likely. Matx is the way to go for the smallest hedt from Intel and AMD. Any smaller good luck trying to keep thermals and noise down.
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#31
evernessince
ShurikN said:
Without the 2800X, maybe an 8c/16t TR makes more sense now (for around $500)
They have that already, it's called the 1900X.
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#32
bug
Patriot said:
2066 is barely doable with itx.... TR4 socket is twice as big... no freaking way man.
On top of that, whatever you can cram into a mITX chasis, there will always big something more power that doesn't fit. In other words, no matter how much HP you squeeze into that box, high-end gaming will always remain outside of it.
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#33
theGryphon
Patriot said:
2066 is barely doable with itx.... TR4 socket is twice as big... no freaking way man.
bug said:
On top of that, whatever you can cram into a mITX chasis, there will always big something more power that doesn't fit. In other words, no matter how much HP you squeeze into that box, high-end gaming will always remain outside of it.
Ye of little faith!

:p
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#34
Camm
Has there been any rumours of a new chipset to go with new TR? This might dictate my plans on dropping down to a mainstream 8 core or not.
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#36
Camm
bug said:
I doon't know. Let's check, say, first page maybe? https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/TechPowerUp/Future_Hardware_Releases/
No need to be a smart ass, considering it says 'stays on socket TR4' but says nothing on chipset except being compatible with X399. If you read my question, I asked if theres a new chipset to go with it, not if it was compatible with current, or if the socket is the same.
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#37
bug
Camm said:
No need to be a smart ass, considering it says 'stays on socket TR4' but says nothing on chipset except being compatible with X399. If you read my question, I asked if theres a new chipset to go with it, not if it was compatible with current, or if the socket is the same.
That page summarizes everything we know about it right now.
Plus, why are you asking? Do you need a new chipset because X399 doesn't cut it?
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#38
Camm
bug said:
That page summarizes everything we know about it right now.
Plus, why are you asking? Do you need a new chipset because X399 doesn't cut it?
Why neuter performance unnecessarily? Especially considering X470 apparently has better memory routing which has been a continual crux for Zen, and better CPU power delivery for OC.
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#39
bug
Camm said:
Why neuter performance unnecessarily? Especially considering X470 apparently has better memory routing which has been a continual crux for Zen, and better CPU power delivery for OC.
What's "memory routing"?
And what does a chipset have to do with "better CPU power delivery"?
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#40
ShurikN
evernessince said:
They have that already, it's called the 1900X.
As I said, makes more sense NOW.
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#41
Clariska
Problem here are price to performance.The threadripper are such a bad buy.If i want to get cpu/mobo and ram it will cost around 19k my currency.The i9 intel are even worst on 23k.I'll rather stick to the 1600 ryzen 5.Am waiting for the 2600 but idk when that will be released.
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#42
InVasMani
theGryphon said:
At some point I'm hoping, AMD will release a TR4 CPU with GPU cores. A collosal APU if you will. 8-core CPU coupled with 28-core (1792-shader) Vega GPU should currently be doable at 180W TDP, potentially better hardware with the 7nm process. This would be of great service to us customers facing unreal GPU prices due to cryptomining. Despite some predictions that GPUs for cryptomining will eventually die, I'm sorry to say that I don't see that happening anytime soon or later. If AMD did this, they could charge some good premium but it would still be a worthy buy for customers compared to dGPU prices.

AIB's already showed mATX is doable with TR4, and I'm pretty sure mITX is also doable but just requires the will. Think about the high-end gaming machines that would be enabled in ~3lt chassis.
Naw give us a EPYC APU with OCTA Channel! ;)
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#43
Caring1
Camm said:
Has there been any rumours of a new chipset to go with new TR? This might dictate my plans on dropping down to a mainstream 8 core or not.
If they haven't added new features to the Processor, and have only made refinements, then I wouldn't expect the need yet for new chipsets.
Seeing that a BIOS update is all that is mentioned to allow them to run on X399 Boards, this sort of confirms that to me.
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#44
nemesis.ie
Yes, there have been rumours last week based on unofficial slide leaks hinting at an updated TR4 chipset/board.

It would seem to make sense if things like adjusting the XFR settings on Ryzen 2000 series are only available on e.g. X470 and not X370, that the same would be done on a revised TR4 motherboard. X499 perhaps?
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