Monday, September 3rd 2018

AMD Fast-tracks 7nm "Navi" GPU to Late-2018 Alongside "Zen 2" CPU

AMD is unique in the world of computing as the only company with both high-performance CPU and GPU products. For the past several years we have been executing our multi-generational leadership product and architectural roadmap. Just in the last 18 months, we successfully introduced and ramped our strongest set of products in more than a decade and our business has grown dramatically as we gained market share across the PC, gaming and datacenter markets.

The industry is at a significant inflection point as the pace of Moore's Law slows while the demand for computing and graphics performance continues to grow. This trend is fueling significant shifts throughout the industry and creating new opportunities for companies that can successfully bring together architectural, packaging, system and software innovations with leading-edge process technologies. That is why at AMD we have invested heavily in our architecture and product roadmaps, while also making the strategic decision to bet big on the 7nm process node. While it is still too early to provide more details on the architectural and product advances we have in store with our next wave of products, it is the right time to provide more detail on the flexible foundry sourcing strategy we put in place several years ago.

AMD's next major milestone is the introduction of our upcoming 7nm product portfolio, including the initial products with our second generation "Zen 2" CPU core and our new "Navi" GPU architecture. We have already taped out multiple 7nm products at TSMC, including our first 7nm GPU planned to launch later this year and our first 7nm server CPU that we plan to launch in 2019. Our work with TSMC on their 7nm node has gone very well and we have seen excellent results from early silicon. To streamline our development and align our investments closely with each of our foundry partner's investments, today we are announcing we intend to focus the breadth of our 7nm product portfolio on TSMC's industry-leading 7nm process. We also continue to have a broad partnership with GLOBALFOUNDRIES spanning multiple process nodes and technologies. We will leverage the additional investments GLOBALFOUNDRIES is making in their robust 14nm and 12nm technologies at their New York fab to support the ongoing ramp of our AMD Ryzen, AMD Radeon and AMD EPYC processors. We do not expect any changes to our product roadmaps as a result of these changes.

We are proud of the long-standing and successful relationships we have built with our multiple foundry partners, and we will continue to strengthen these relationships to enable the manufacturing capacity required to support our product roadmaps. I look forward to providing more details on those innovations as we prepare to introduce the industry's first 7nm GPU later this year and our first 7nm CPUs next year. Source: AMD Investor Relations
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97 Comments on AMD Fast-tracks 7nm "Navi" GPU to Late-2018 Alongside "Zen 2" CPU

#1
AlwaysHope
"AMD is unique in the world of computing as the only company with both high-performance CPU and GPU products."

Dr Lisa Su knows what she is doing!
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#2
ShurikN
Nowhere in the article does it say Navi is coming late 2018. As a matter of fact, Navi wasn't mentioned at all.
The gpu that's going to launch later this year is a 7nm Vega20 (or whatever it's called), which is not a consumer product.
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#3
Prima.Vera
"ShurikN said:
Nowhere in the article does it say Navi is coming late 2018. As a matter of fact, Navi wasn't mentioned at all.
The gpu that's going to launch later this year is a 7nm Vega20 (or whatever it's called), which is not a consumer product.
It's bolded.... ;)
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#4
ShurikN
"Prima.Vera said:
It's bolded.... ;)
I dont think it was when i posted. Besides, my point still stands. The title is clickbait.
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#5
xkm1948
Press release huh. So we are already seeing the work of David Wong at RTG. No hype train this time hopefully
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#6
robot zombie
Agh, we only wish we could all get our hands on some 7nm AMD GPU's right now. If only they could shake up the GPU market like they have the CPU world. The timing for something like that to happen could not be better, for us and for them. Could you imagine?

I don't know why, but it just dawned on me that AMD's got me good at this point. If their 7nm CPU's make it to AM4 and my x370 will take it, I know already that I'll buy one, even if I don't need it. At that point, they'll have sold me one CPU from each Zen generation. And the only reason I would think to even do that is because of how affordable their CPU's generally are and just the simple fact that you don't have to change boards each gen. Much lower barrier to entry makes one less likely to stop and think... ...just spend the little chunk of cash, drop it in, and enjoy the gains. It's almost too easy to upgrade. It's brilliant. The reality is that this way, I actually spend more with them than I would have been able to justify with Intel.
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#7
RejZoR
AMD needs to get closer to NVIDIA with GPU releases. The 3 months timeframe would be ideal, whichever way, earlier than NV or after NV. But somewhere within that time. Half a year later already feels like a missed opportunity to counter NV's offerings. If Navi is really getting released in Q4 2018, that would be close to my assumption above and good way to counter RTX 2000 series. I hope it'll work out for AMD. We need competition in GPU market and that's just a fact.
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#8
ratirt
Hmm 7nm. The question is if the new GPU can pull it off. I'm still waiting for good AMD GPU since I got Free -sync monitor and I'd want to use its potential.
I wonder if there will be some architectural changes with the GPU or just simple shrink and clocks bump.
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#9
gmn 17
7nm 3700x ryzen yes thanks
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#10
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
"gmn 17 said:
7nm 3700x ryzen yes thanks
Or Radeon RX 3800 (just to troll NVIDIA's nomenclature).
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#11
dj-electric
I guess that we could possibly have some sort of a new Radeon at CES next year.
Eh... Just be affordable and fast, pretty please :(
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#12
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
It almost sounds like Navi is going to debut in an APU. Which makes sense because consoles.

/me contemplates Zen 2 + Navi + GDDR6 mini-ITX soldered systems.


"I look forward to providing more details on those innovations as we prepare to introduce the industry's first 7nm GPU later this year..."
That sounds like a dedicated graphics card. Hype is rising Ryzen?
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#13
notb
The text doesn't say a 7nm Navi chip is coming in 2018. It says that they'll make 7nm Navi and that they plan to realease a 7nm GPU this year.

It's clearly just a counter measure for the GF 7nm fiasco. This text was written for shareholders, not customers.

Also, when Intel writes something similar, this forum is full of sarcasm and comments about damage control. Sad.
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#14
Nkd
Another misleading Title. Please don't be like wccftech. AMD has repeatedly said that 7nm GPU in late 2018 is going to be Vega 20 and it will only be a pro card. not a gamer card. At no where that article says Navi is coming 2018. Now watch this misinformation circle and people start assuming that navi is delayed. I highly suggest check facts and change the title. It is untrue and at no where in the article it says Navi is fast tracked in 2018. They already said 7nm GPU in late 2018 will be vega 20. could they surprise us? Yea but to twist the information in article is misleading as hell! May be mention that hey we don't know if Navi is coming in 2018 but since we have known since june and lisa has already said it form her own mouth its vega 20 as a professional card, we should assume that is what they are talking about. Not Navi is fast tracked. That is wccftech, I expect better sourced info from TPU.

"notb said:
The text doesn't say a 7nm Navi chip is coming in 2018. It says that they'll make 7nm Navi and that they plan to realease a 7nm GPU this year.

It's clearly just a counter measure for the GF 7nm fiasco. This text was written for shareholders, not customers.

Also, when Intel writes something similar, this forum is full of sarcasm and comments about damage control. Sad.
People aren't taking about the text. Its the title, you must not have read that.
AMD Fast-tracks 7nm "Navi" GPU to Late-2018 Alongside "Zen 2" CPU

LOL the title fails hard. Neither of them are coming in 2018 lol. Zen 2 is coming in 2019. I gotta call it like it is. And the article never says navi is fast tracked in 2018. Heck the share holders kept expectations in check vs the title.
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#15
londiste
AMD's next major milestone is the introduction of our upcoming 7nm product portfolio, including the initial products with our second generation "Zen 2" CPU core and our new "Navi" GPU architecture. We have already taped out multiple 7nm products at TSMC, including our first 7nm GPU planned to launch later this year and our first 7nm server CPU that we plan to launch in 2019.
This is carefully worded and intended to be misleading. Also, targeted to shereholders. Think tricks akin to Intel's 10nm "production" CPU release.
AMD's 7nm portfolio includes Zen2 and Navi and obviously also the Vega 20. 7nm GPU this year is Vega 20, 7nm server CPU means consumer CPUs will come later.
Title is clickbait.
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#16
Vya Domus
"londiste said:
7nm GPU this year is Vega 20, 7nm server CPU means consumer CPUs will come later.
Title is clickbait.
The word consumer is nowhere to be found, how can you clickbait something without even mentioning it. :roll:
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#17
londiste
"Vya Domus said:
The word consumer is nowhere to be found, how can you clickbait something without even mentioning it. :roll:
Well, you are right, the Zen2 part is technically correct. It'll just be Rome instead of 3000 series Ryzen that everyone assumes :D:roll:
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#18
Imsochobo
"ShurikN said:
Nowhere in the article does it say Navi is coming late 2018. As a matter of fact, Navi wasn't mentioned at all.
The gpu that's going to launch later this year is a 7nm Vega20 (or whatever it's called), which is not a consumer product.
I didn't expect amd to release any gpu this year.
That was in july, price drops to below msrp on rx570 and 580 was just changing to arez and all the gpp naming or so I thought.

No rx570 and 580 is in the biggest etailer in my country anymore at all, not listed or anything all of a sudden and then I knew something have to come...
AMD musta been really good at holding this one tight cause I've not heard any rumors or seen any leaks until this post :)
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#19
NdMk2o1o
No mention of ryzen 2 this year only navi this year apparently,and the first 7nm server cpu in 2019 which is when ryzen 2 is also slated for
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#20
Nkd
"NdMk2o1o said:
No mention of ryzen 2 this year only navi this year apparently,and the first 7nm server cpu in 2019 which is when ryzen 2 is also slated for
No navi this year! AMD has said before 7nm vega will be coming to pro market later this year. No where in the article its clear navi is fast tracked to 2018. Title however will have you believe that. I am not sure where TPU saw zen 2 is coming this year. Zen 2 is coming in 2019.

"londiste said:
This is carefully worded and intended to be misleading. Also, targeted to shereholders. Think tricks akin to Intel's 10nm "production" CPU release.
AMD's 7nm portfolio includes Zen2 and Navi and obviously also the Vega 20. 7nm GPU this year is Vega 20, 7nm server CPU means consumer CPUs will come later.
Title is clickbait.
They clearly state the dates at the end. For Navi and zen 2, no where they mentioned the year they are coming out but the title of the article says otherwise. Title is more misleading than the article itself. I don't see any tricks there. Unless people have been hiding under the rock they already said their first 7nm GPU will be vega 20 this year for pro cards and epyc 2 releasing early next year.

"NdMk2o1o said:
No mention of ryzen 2 this year only navi this year apparently,and the first 7nm server cpu in 2019 which is when ryzen 2 is also slated for
where does it say navi this year? It says first 7nm "GPU" not GPUs, they have already said their first 7nm GPU later this year is going to be vega 20 in june. Anything other than that will be a major surprise. But no where it says Navi is coming in 2018.

"Vya Domus said:
The word consumer is nowhere to be found, how can you clickbait something without even mentioning it. :roll:
Its not that to me. To me its specifically says Navi and Zen are fast tracked to late 2018. I mean common! AMD has repeatedly said zen 2 is 2019 and no where in the article Navi is fast tracked to 2018. It just mentions navi as being in their upcoming product portfolio
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#21
ZoneDymo
"btarunr said:
Or Radeon RX 3800 (just to troll NVIDIA's nomenclature).
AMD RtX 2900
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#22
Midland Dog
lets hope navi is more polished than vega was, as an nvidia fan it has to be otherwise im probably not gonna be able to get a 2070, if the 2060 doesnt have raytracing but has good rasterization perf (5gb rumors would kill it for me, Skyrim SE ultra modded at 1080p uses 5.6gb of vram on my 1060) then i might have to get that
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#23
Vya Domus
"Nkd said:

To me its specifically says Navi and Zen are fast tracked to late 2018.
What do you mean "to you" ? You see what you want to see rather than what it's written ? It is never once said that Navi is coming to mainstream consumers (or any consumers) late 2018 or anything of the sort.
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#24
Liviu Cojocaru
I as well don't see how any Navi consumer card will hit the shelves in 2018...still a long way to go but I really doubt that. This article does not specify anything like that so...
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#25
oxidized
Please AMD don't f*** this up please!
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