Tuesday, May 7th 2019

Announcing DRAM Calculator for Ryzen v1.5.0 with an Integrated Benchmark

Yuri "1usmus" Bubliy, who practically wrote the book on AMD Ryzen memory overclocking, presents DRAM Calculator for Ryzen v1.5.0, the latest version of the most powerful tool available to help you overclock memory on PCs powered by AMD Ryzen processors. The biggest feature-addition is MEMBench, a new internal memory benchmark that tests performance of your machine's memory sub-system, and can be used to test the stability of your memory overclock. Among the other feature-additions include the "Compare Timings" button, which gives you a side-by-side comparison of your machine's existing settings, with what's possible or the settings you've arrived at using the app.

Motherboards vary by memory slot topology, and DRAM Calculator for Ryzen can now be told what topology your board has, so it can better tune settings such as procODT and RTT. The author also de-cluttered the main screen to improve ease of use. Among the under-the-hood changes are improved SoC voltage prediction for each generation of Ryzen. The main timing calculation and prediction algorithms are improved with the addition of the likes of GDM prediction. Also added is support for 4-DIMM system configurations. A bug in which the imported HTML profiles were automatically assumed to be specific to Samsung b-die mode. A number of minor changes were made, detailed in the change-log below.

DOWNLOAD: DRAM Calculator for Ryzen by 1usmus
Main Changes:
  • Added feature to compare current system timings with recommended ones. Turns on with the button "Compare timings".
  • Added the ability to select the topology of the motherboard. Sheet box with the name "Topology". The meaning of this undertaking is a more accurate prediction of procODT / RTT settings. Of course, the function is not perfect and with each update of the calculator the prediction accuracy will increase.
  • Partially cleaned the "Main" tab of information that is not used and clutters the user interface. This is a small advance towards the ease of use of this application.
  • SOC voltage prediction blocks have undergone significant changes for each generation of Ryzen processors.
  • Another recommendation is temporarily added to the CAD_BUS block.
  • Recycling of most presets for each type of memory. The reason is simple - new bios make new adjustments.
  • Block "Misc items" received new prediction algorithms. In particular, the GDM prediction.
  • Improved support for system configurations consisting of 4 DIMMs.
  • Improved algorithm for calculating profiles "Debug".
  • Corrections of sudden crash programs in the calculations.
  • Fixed a problem when during the import of the html profile the memory type was automatically switched to Samsung b-die mode.
  • Added button link to system setup guide using Ryzen DRAM Calculator. This button is located in the "Help" tab.
  • Updated information in the "About" tab and added feedback to me via Twitter.
Key features of MEMbench:
  • Support for processors with 1 to 32 threads (temporary restrictions) .
  • Error within 0.5%.
  • Automatic determination of the number of threads in the system.
  • Unified rating for desktop and HEDT processors (AMD and Intel).
  • Qualitatively implemented multi-threading.
  • Thanks to the HCI 6 kernel (freeware), this product is free for the end user. I also want to note that this version is not modified (does not contain hacks).
  • Complete absence of the influence of the processor frequency on the benchmark result.
  • The result is affected by each timing (picture with themes, see below).
  • Ability to work in the mode of ordinary memory check with a fixed delayed stop at a certain stage and this stage is determined by you.
  • Four presets for benching "Easy mode", "Default mode" , "Custom mode" and "Memtest".
  • Easy mode is designed specifically for systems with a small amount of installed RAM.
  • Easy to use benchmark, you need to select only MEMbench mode and click "Run".
  • Provision of full-fledged system information for the Ryzen processors (for Intel, the timing-determining block is not yet connected).
  • Ability to save two own results for further comparison.
  • Display information in the chart.
  • A window-table with information about the current state of benching or memory checking.
  • "Screenshot" Button
  • All possible protection against situations of low memory in the system.
  • Does not use swap file.
  • Loyal stress CPU test in "Default mode".
The author invites you to follow him on Twitter.
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24 Comments on Announcing DRAM Calculator for Ryzen v1.5.0 with an Integrated Benchmark

#1
Vorado
For me Bitdefender find it Malware
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#2
1usmus
AMD Memory Guru
Vorado, post: 4043543, member: 132512"
For me Bitdefender find it Malware
Some DLLs that are used to read timings can sometimes raise issues with antiviruses. Or perhaps the algorithm to create multiple memtest.exe processes in which the windows are hidden, causing suspicion among anti-viruses. Do not worry, for me and my colleagues reputation is important, there can be no viruses there.
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#3
jonup
Vorado, post: 4043543, member: 132512"
For me Bitdefender find it Malware
It's all good on my end with what i tested.
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#4
notb
jonup, post: 4043562, member: 184059"
It's all good on my end with what i tested.
I've just checked your PC. Yup, it works fine.
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#7
1usmus
AMD Memory Guru
eidairaman1, post: 4043635, member: 40556"
Will this work on Threadripper. Also is it based upon latest Agesa updates?
Yes, in the screenshot I tested even 2990WX. At the moment, there is a temporary limit of 32 threads.
The Agesa version affects the recommendations in the presets. Ideal - if you use the latest bios
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#8
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
1usmus, post: 4043644, member: 180612"
Yes, in the screenshot I tested even 2990WX. At the moment, there is a temporary limit of 32 threads.
The Agesa version affects the recommendations in the presets. Ideal - if you use the latest bios
Well you can only go up to that as it is the only chip of that stature on the market

Im a overclocker myself so you see from the system specs. Typically unless if a newer bios breaks something it gets updated.
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#9
damric
Wish we had ez software for intel too, and for older stuff like ddr3.
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#10
LFaWolf
I don’t have a Ryzen system so I don’t know - is there no memory overclocking setting similar to Intel XMP for Ryzen motherboards? Why do you need to have a calculator? Is memory overclocking strictly a manual process for AMD boards?
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#11
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
LFaWolf, post: 4043665, member: 165861"
I don’t have a Ryzen system so I don’t know - is there no memory overclocking setting similar to Intel XMP for Ryzen motherboards? Why do you need to have a calculator? Is memory overclocking strictly a manual process for AMD boards?
Asus boards Have DOCP, my rig I had running at default of 2133, it is usually AMP/XMP.

Ryzens do not like Corsair Vengeance for sure
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#12
EntropyZ
Even so, if you are using pre-Ryzen release DDR4 modules, there should be at least 1 XMP/D.O.C.P profile available to load. I've had the bad luck trying to push Corsair Vengeance LPX and Kingston HyperX's with lowered timings, to be honest, even with my Vengeance LED, I am hitting a hard wall, sub-timings can be tightened with no issue, as soon as I touch CAS latency... I can't get into Windows, or worse it won't boot at all, no matter how much voltage I add.

It seems like a waste of time for most people to mess around dual-rank sticks or just the ones optimized for Intel. Then again, nothing has stopped me or even those people that got 2133 sticks running at almost double the speed (on Intel platforms, shout out to buildzoid), I was interested how some dual-rank E-dies can do pretty well at CL16 with lowered sub-timings. I just wish I waited and got a single-rank B-die kit instead, oh well. I'm keeping my kit that I paired with the original R5 1600 I had, don't feel like paying again for a marginal improvement, especially with Zen 2 chips so close.

It left me frustrated at first that I just ended up defeated and settled with what was working. And the only way to keep the fun going was to get another DDR4 kit. But I've just settled that I've tried and didn't really lose much, if anything I was able to add a few benchmarks on the internet for people to compare against, and I suppose that's something.

I'm really excited what Zen 2 means for memory bandwidth, overclocking and stability. Especially with the recently announced A-grade dies, which are probably going to be priced up the bum no doubt. I just don't like the idea that the lower densities might not even be available (going by pictures and a list). I really don't need more than 2x8GB for at least 2-3 years if current trends continue.

Anyway, I really dig this program, it has helped a lot of people save some time in their endevours.
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#13
Aretak
Nice. The previous version helped me dial in 3466MHz with tight timings, but I had zero luck with 3600MHz. Hope this one can help me get there.
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#14
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
EntropyZ, post: 4043701, member: 162270"
Even so, if you are using pre-Ryzen release DDR4 modules, there should be at least 1 XMP/D.O.C.P profile available to load. I've had the bad luck trying to push Corsair Vengeance LPX and Kingston HyperX's with lowered timings, to be honest, even with my Vengeance LED, I am hitting a hard wall, sub-timings can be tightened with no issue, as soon as I touch CAS latency... I can't get into Windows, or worse it won't boot at all, no matter how much voltage I add.

It seems like a waste of time for most people to mess around dual-rank sticks or just the ones optimized for Intel. Then again, nothing has stopped me or even those people that got 2133 sticks running at almost double the speed (on Intel platforms, shout out to buildzoid), I was interested how some dual-rank E-dies can do pretty well at CL16 with lowered sub-timings. I just wish I waited and got a single-rank B-die kit instead, oh well. I'm keeping my kit that I paired with the original R5 1600 I had, don't feel like paying again for a marginal improvement, especially with Zen 2 chips so close.

It left me frustrated at first that I just ended up defeated and settled with what was working. And the only way to keep the fun going was to get another DDR4 kit. But I've just settled that I've tried and didn't really lose much, if anything I was able to add a few benchmarks on the internet for people to compare against, and I suppose that's something.

I'm really excited what Zen 2 means for memory bandwidth, overclocking and stability. Especially with the recently announced A-grade dies, which are probably going to be priced up the bum no doubt. I just don't like the idea that the lower densities might not even be available (going by pictures and a list). I really don't need more than 2x8GB for at least 2-3 years if current trends continue.

Anyway, I really dig this program, it has helped a lot of people save some time in their endevours.
Vengeance had problems on am3 even...
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#15
HTC
Any way i can run this in Linux?
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#16
NoJuan999
Thank you for the Update.
I used v1.41 to get my G.Skill (Hynix AFC) TridentZ 3200 Mhz sticks to run at 3400 Mhz with slightly tighter timings at they are 100% stable.
I just ran v1.50.5 and used the compare button to check my current timings vs your Safe and Fast recommendations and may try to tighten up timings a tad more. :D
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#17
xorbe
Can someone ELI5 how Dram Calculator suggests more aggressive settings than the bios? (Is that what this primarily does?) My 2x16GB TridentZ CL14 3200 has been giving me hell on my Asus board, and I'm having to run at 2933 now.
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#18
senniha1994
New application does not loading.I have tried both 1.5.0.Older version works.I have disabled Windows defender but still no positive result.I haven't got any answer or solution by the developer.

1usmus, post: 4043623, member: 180612"
Version for those who do not have the start of the program (the request for system information is disabled)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fmPIkMZ4GrJO8onEkUZGMHKgkD7D3osz
Program does not load,i have disabled Windows defender.Older version 1.4.0 works.Please i need help.

1usmus, post: 4043623, member: 180612"
Version for those who do not have the start of the program (the request for system information is disabled)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fmPIkMZ4GrJO8onEkUZGMHKgkD7D3osz
Thank you this version works
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#19
Gasaraki
damric, post: 4043662, member: 81583"
Wish we had ez software for intel too, and for older stuff like ddr3.
You don't need stuff like this for Intel systems.
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#20
FYFI13
eidairaman1, post: 4043671, member: 40556"
zens do not like Corsair Vengeance for sure
Check my system specs ;-) This is one of cheapest DDR4 kits on market, advertised as 3000MHz 15 17 17 35 iirc. Also keep in mind that I'm using pretty cheap Asus motherboard as well. With that said, i was able to load XMP profile and system ran rock solid. With a little bit of tweaking i got this kit working at 3000MHz CL14, now testing 3400MHz CL16. No issues for over a week so i guess I can call it stable OC as well.

Perhaps there are Corsair Vengeance kits that do not play nicely with Ryzen processors, but definitely not all of them. And yes, this RAM kit came with "Intel compatible" sticker on it :-)
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#21
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
FYFI13, post: 4044192, member: 105256"
Check my system specs ;-) This is one of cheapest DDR4 kits on market, advertised as 3000MHz 15 17 17 35 iirc. Also keep in mind that I'm using pretty cheap Asus motherboard as well. With that said, i was able to load XMP profile and system ran rock solid. With a little bit of tweaking i got this kit working at 3000MHz CL14, now testing 3400MHz CL16. No issues for over a week so i guess I can call it stable OC as well.

Perhaps there are Corsair Vengeance kits that do not play nicely with Ryzen processors, but definitely not all of them. And yes, this RAM kit came with "Intel compatible" sticker on it :)
There is a thread I am dealing with where the person does have Vengeance Ram in it and it's not working for them
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#22
damric
So you are expert on what I need?
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#23
_havran_
Hello, I have MB Asrock B450 Pro4 Uefi version 3.31, Ryzen 5 2600 and DRAM DDR4 Patriot Viper4 3000Mhz (micron) cl16-18-18-36

When I starting Ryzen DDR calculator - program writing notice - "sysinfo not work". When I setting the spec manualy and start Safe setting - program crash to desktop.

Sorry for my bad english.
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#24
tarhitay
Same problem on b450m pro4 uefi v3.30
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