Friday, October 18th 2019

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X, 3970X and 3990X Launch Dates Leaked

The folks over at Videocardz managed to snag some impressive information on AMD-s upcoming Threadripper lineup - their launch dates. According to the tech publication, a source within AMD provided information regarding previously-set dates for paper and hardware launches that stand at November 5th for the formal announcement of the next generation HEDT CPUs, followed by lifted embargos on reviews and actual product availability come November 19th. Apparently, AMD will only launch the Threadripper 3960X and 3970X come November 5th (remember remember the 5th of November), with a product announcement for the Threadripper 3990X which will only be launched in January 2020.

AMD will also formally unveil their next-gen Threadripper TRX40 platformon November 5th (which won't be compatible with previous-gen Threadrippers). This makes sense - CPUs without a platform to pin them onto doesn't seem like a conscientious business decision. No information was available on clockspeeds and core counts at this time, though the Threadripper 3960X, the base of the new lineup, is expected to sport 24 cores and 48 threads of Zen 2 goodness.
Source: Videocardz
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17 Comments on AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X, 3970X and 3990X Launch Dates Leaked

#1
kapone32
If these are built on the 7nm process and continue using the top 5% binned chiplets then I fully expect the 24 core to be around 4.6GHZ across all cores as a boost clock. The apparent TDP (250W) for the 24 core is more than double the 3900X and that also means to me that we will see higher boost clocks.
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#2
TheGuruStud
kapone32
If these are built on the 7nm process and continue using the top 5% binned chiplets then I fully expect the 24 core to be around 4.6GHZ across all cores as a boost clock. The apparent TDP (250W) for the 24 core is more than double the 3900X and that also means to me that we will see higher boost clocks.
IO die is 4x the size, plus more IF = power hog.
The cores use half or less of total consumption.
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#3
Patriot
TheGuruStud
IO die is 4x the size, plus more IF = power hog.
The cores use half or less of total consumption.
Yes but for reference here are the EPYC skus, Depending which Threadripper models have 64 pcie lanes vs 128....and quad vs octo ram... will effect how much power the io die uses. I expect >3ghz base and 4ghz ish boost.
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#4
TheGuruStud
Patriot
Yes but for reference here are the EPYC skus, Depending which Threadripper models have 64 pcie lanes vs 128....and quad vs octo ram... will effect how much power the io die uses. I expect >3ghz base and 4ghz ish boost.
Yeah, I expect ryzen 3600x clocks at least.
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#5
Jism
kapone32
If these are built on the 7nm process and continue using the top 5% binned chiplets then I fully expect the 24 core to be around 4.6GHZ across all cores as a boost clock. The apparent TDP (250W) for the 24 core is more than double the 3900X and that also means to me that we will see higher boost clocks.
I dont think so. The proces is pretty much at it's highest you can get. It's either single-thread high boost or all-core thread / lower boost. It has todo with the maximum current the chip(let) can handle. Anything above on the long term is going to fry the proces. If AMD wanted 5GHz chips boosting they would have had that by now.

But it's no secret that various 1x00, 2x00 and even 3x00 CPU's are degrading fast once you apply voltages above 1.4 ~ 1.45V.
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#6
danbert2000
Whatever place that Threadripper used to fill as the step-up from 8 core/16 thread CPUs in the mainstream line has been lost in this generation. With PCIe 4.0 support, core counts up to 16, and better memory support, the Threadripper isn't going to convert a lot of people. Perhaps there will still be some prosumers and creators that turn to this, but realistically no gamer or hobbyist is going to get much of a noticeable change from so many PCIe lanes and 16 cores.

It's good they're still releasing these chips to fill workstations. And I suppose some fools who want to be parted with their money even though all they do is game/stream will always want the most expensive chips. But we're back into a place where HEDT doesn't mean Intel's converted server chips with high clocks. It just means get a 3900X or 3950X.
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#7
Jism
Content creaters are'nt the people who parse a excel here and there, but litterally parse hundreds of GB's of video's all day together. That's where the extra core count(s) comes into play. People who need the raw horsepower. But it's hard to convince the majority that already runs a 8c/16t or even 16c/32t CPU to go all the way up to a 24/32C/48T/64T machine, that also requires a different type of board and cooling. It's still brutal to see server grade hardware being in a desktop platform, and it sure offers highest quality compared to a regular desktop.

I think for what i do my 2700x will last for a few years before i'm even close to fully taxing that. There's no graphics card at this moment that is capable of fully taxing PCI-E 4.0, let alone the difference in between 3.0 and 4.0. The NVME argument is great, but only consists out of raw file copy performance, and even on my PCI-E 3.0 interface i could still raid-0 and outbeat a NVME PCI-E 4.0. As usual AMD is sometimes really ahead of it's time where we do not really know yet where to put all that raw horsepower into.
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#8
yakk
Never been a better time to buy a VM rig / home server!

:clap:
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#9
gmn 17
cant wait for nov 5
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#10
phill
Great news here to me!! :D :D Thank you AMD!!
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#11
abysal
Jism
But it's no secret that various 1x00, 2x00 and even 3x00 CPU's are degrading fast once you apply voltages above 1.4 ~ 1.45V.
Do you have a source for this claim? And specifically do you mean voltages above 1.45v or 1.4v +?
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#12
ShrimpBrime
abysal
Do you have a source for this claim? And specifically do you mean voltages above 1.45v or 1.4v +?
No, no he doesn't.
His own 2700x will boost 1.45v-1.50v.... heh.

Stay under 1.5v though, because 1.6v is where you will degrade that chip "fast"
(personal experience applied.)
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#13
theonedub
habe fidem
It is disappointing to hear that there will not be any support for 3rd generation Threadripper on X399. AMD has always been one to give sockets some longevity- I mean AM4 supports the 'radically' different MCM design with a new supporting chipset in the X570 while coexisting with X470, and previous sockets lived seemingly forever (I'm looking at you 939 and AM3 :laugh:). I would've liked to see at least the 32c variant compatible with X399 while the eventual 64c CPU could require the new chipset to take advantage of 8 channel memory, PCIe 5.0, etc.

I'm going to keep my fingers crossed for a surprise come the official announcement but will start to prepare to accept my X399 setup is lvl max CPU and EOL :cry:
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#14
Camm
Pity there isn't a 16 core part, the extra PCI-E lanes and quad channel support would have been welcome for me personally. I'll keep an eye on 32 core pricing though to see if it makes sense, I only need as close as to 16 cores, but don't want to step down to 6 core MCM's to do so.
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#15
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
I am hoping that the TRX40 setup gives me a reason to swap over from my 2990WX. Better clocking would be pretty nice, I am however nervous there will not be any MATX offerings which kinda hurts my cool case setup I have going right now.
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#16
Nordic
cdawall
I am hoping that the TRX40 setup gives me a reason to swap over from my 2990WX. Better clocking would be pretty nice, I am however nervous there will not be any MATX offerings which kinda hurts my cool case setup I have going right now.
Even for X570 AMD has not had good options for MATX.
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#17
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
Nordic
Even for X570 AMD has not had good options for MATX.
Yea I don't think TRX40 will have any at all which is a huge disappointment for me.
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