Tuesday, November 19th 2019

AMD Could Launch Next Generation RDNA 2 GPUs at CES 2020

According to the findings of a Chiphell user called "wjm47196", AMD is supposedly going to host an event at CES 2020 to showcase its next generation of Radeon graphics cards. Having seen huge success with its first-generation "RDNA" GPUs, AMD is expected to showcase improved lineup utilizing new and improved RDNA 2 graphics card architecture.

Judging by the previous information, second generation of RDNA graphics cards will get much-needed features like ray tracing, to remain competitive with existing offers from NVIDIA and soon Intel. Supposed to be built using the 7 nm+ manufacturing process, the new GPU architecture will get around 10-15% performance improvement due to the new manufacturing process alone, with possibly higher numbers if there are changes to the GPU core.
Source: Chiphell via KitGuru
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48 Comments on AMD Could Launch Next Generation RDNA 2 GPUs at CES 2020

#1
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
No news of RX 5800/5900 to complete the stack.
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#2
dj-electric
I'm just hoping that we could get a proper jump in performance per power, and per market segment for this one.

NVIDIA will not have mercy with their 7nm\+ lineup of GPUs.
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#3
xkm1948
Wow that is fast. Less than a year from 1st gen Navi.
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#4
Raendor
dj-electric
I'm just hoping that we could get a proper jump in performance per power, and per market segment for this one.

NVIDIA will not have mercy with their 7nm\+ lineup of GPUs.
I’m sure NVIDIA will do something great this time, especially knowing that intel also wants piece of the pie. Node jump will help for sure. Could be greater jump in performance than with Pascal, which was the greatest lineup in my view so far.
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#5
Chomiq
xkm1948
Wow that is fast. Less than a year from 1st gen Navi.
I'd say it's about damn time. AMD needs to get competitive in the high end segment.
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#6
kings
RDNA 2, according to AMD's official roadmap, was still in design a few weeks ago, now GPUs will be released in just over a month and a half.

Right ... And I'm Santa Claus.
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#7
HD64G
Raendor
I’m sure NVIDIA will do something great this time, especially knowing that intel also wants piece of the pie. Node jump will help for sure. Could be greater jump in performance than with Pascal, which was the greatest lineup in my view so far.
This jump in preformance cannot be done anymore without major changes in arch. 7nm doesn't allow much higher clocks than 12nm or 14nm as the latter processes allowed from the previous ones. My 5c.
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#8
TheGuruStud
kings
RDNA 2, according to AMD's official roadmap, was still in design a few weeks ago, now GPUs will be released in just over a month and a half.

Right ... And I'm Santa Claus.
Roadmaps are meaningless.
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#9
DeathtoGnomes
I'm thinking there was a typo. Maybe it should read "Announce" instead of Launch?
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#10
TheGuruStud
DeathtoGnomes
I'm thinking there was a typo. Maybe it should read "Announce" instead of Launch?
Yes
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#11
swirl09
Chomiq
I'd say it's about damn time. AMD needs to get competitive in the high end segment.
I REALLY would love to buy a monster GPU from AMD. The R7 was DOA, but considering what it was built on, it was what it was. Navi is decent, so can you imagine a refined XL version? RX6900? Count me in ;)
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#12
DeathtoGnomes
swirl09
I REALLY would love to buy a monster GPU from AMD. The R7 was DOA, but considering what it was built on, it was what it was. Navi is decent, so can you imagine a refined XL version? RX6900? Count me in ;)
R7 was more like a proof of concept, a very limited run.
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#13
Vayra86
xkm1948
Wow that is fast. Less than a year from 1st gen Navi.
They have catching up to do, and they could have done it just by expanding their current line if this was merely about performance relative to Nvidia. If anything what I'm reading here is an adjustment and maybe they even pulled RT-enabled GPUs forward to keep feature parity with the next console crop. They kinda have to if they want to support their console business, after all, gaming PCs are a significant part of that shared market for game ports and even if they can't get an equal performance cap as Nv, they will want to support the same features.

Its really yet another confirmation AMD puts no effort in pushing the performance ahead anymore, but is content with lagging behind it. They had their opportunity to catch up with Navi 1st gen, and quite simply refused to. This gen was the only gap in which they could still sell a non-RT enabled GPU. Perhaps understandably so, it seems consumer demand falls sharply beyond 1080ti performance. Might very well pan out well for them, its not like 4K for gaming is undergoing an explosive growth either and it won't anyway without cost effective GPUs to drive it. People are likely content with 1080-1440 and ultrawide variations.
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#14
efikkan
"AMD Could Launch Next Generation RDNA 2 GPUs at CES 2020"
Not much substance there…
While I don't doubt they will show off something at CES, we're still waiting for RX 5500 to materialize. Not to mention that rumored "Nvidia killer".
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#15
DeathtoGnomes
efikkan
"AMD Could Launch Next Generation RDNA 2 GPUs at CES 2020"
Not much substance there…
While I don't doubt they will show off something at CES, we're still waiting for RX 5500 to materialize. Not to mention that rumored "Nvidia killer".
Could Announce
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#16
TheGuruStud
DeathtoGnomes
Could Announce
I could be a millionaire come CES!
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#17
DeathtoGnomes
TheGuruStud
I could be a millionaire come CES!
o_O:respect:

Good Luck!
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#18
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
xkm1948
Wow that is fast. Less than a year from 1st gen Navi.
Because raytracing. They have a deadline to get that done before the end of next year.
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xkm1948
FordGT90Concept
Because raytracing. They have a deadline to get that done before the end of next year.
that is, well, interesting

With it still being RDNA i hope 1st gen Navi owners will still be able to receive good driver optimization
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#20
efikkan
xkm1948
With it still being RDNA i hope 1st gen Navi owners will still be able to receive good driver optimization
Navi is still GCN on the ISA level, and shares most of the driver code with the previous GCN iterations, which makes it very mature, and there isn't much to "optimize" for Navi there.

I believe AMD could still do more improvements to their driver in general though, which would of course benefit all supported products.
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#21
xkm1948
You think AMD would enable RTX on gen 1 Navi and GCN once they release Hardware Ray Tracing GPU? Like what Nvidia added Pascal to the RTX?
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#22
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
They can't answer that question until they implemented the DirectX Raytracing API. If it runs like crap without hardware acceleration, they likely won't enable it. If it runs okay without hardware acceleration, they'll enable it.

The main difference between RDNA and RDNA2 is hardware raytracing support.
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#23
oxrufiioxo
I'm just hoping this somewhat competes with High end Ampere.... AMD needed 7nm RDNA to compete with Nvidia's 12nm Touring so I'm not holding my breath.

I really liked the 7970 and 290X but really its been 6 years now since AMD has competed with Nvidia Top card.
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#24
rvalencia
efikkan
Navi is still GCN on the ISA level, and shares most of the driver code with the previous GCN iterations, which makes it very mature, and there isn't much to "optimize" for Navi there.

I believe AMD could still do more improvements to their driver in general though, which would of course benefit all supported products.
NAVI supports Wave32 single cycle throughput and Wave64 two cycles throughput which is use for legacy GCN support.

GCN supports Wave64 four cycles throughput.

NAVI has lower wavefront processing latency when compared to GCN.
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#25
medi01
AleksandarK
...much-needed features like ray tracing...
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