Tuesday, March 9th 2021

Apple is Discontinuing Intel-based iMac Pro

According to the official company website, Apple will no longer manufacture its iMac Pro computers based on Intel processors. Instead, the company will carry these models in its store, only while the supplies last. Apple will be replacing these models with next-generation iMac Pro devices that will be home to the custom Apple Silicon processors, combining Arm CPU cores with custom GPU design. Having a starting price of 4990 USD, the Apple iMac Pro was able to max out at 15000 USD. The most expensive part was exactly the Intel Xeon processor inside it, among the AMD GPU with HBM. Configuration pricing was also driven by storage/RAM options. However, even the most expensive iMac Pro with its 2017 hardware had no chance against the regular 2020 iMac, so the product was set to be discontinued sooner or later.

When the stock of the iMac Pro runs out, Apple will replace this model with its Apple Silicon equipped variant. According to the current rumor mill, Apple is set to hold a keynote on March 16th that will be an announcement for new iMac Pro devices with custom processors. What happens is only up to Apple, so we have to wait and see.
Source: Hardwareluxx.de
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28 Comments on Apple is Discontinuing Intel-based iMac Pro

#1
randomUser
JAB Creations

Of course it will. The cost of manufacturing that is. Not the product retail price.
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#2
dyonoctis
JAB Creations

But, you know that the M1 macbooks are cheaper than the intel one right ? or were you expecting a more massive cut ?
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#3
1d10t
They didn't have to paid third party anymore sooo, maximum profit?
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#5
C1ff0
P4-630

Well, i've finally found something that will trigger a heart attack on my boss...
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#6
Selaya
What is this, 8 M1s duct-taped together?
Some chip thats as big as a whole wafer? (With like 0.1% yields)
Also, little cores are totally useless on a desktop platform, literal waste of silicon (who cares whether its 3W or 9W idle on a desktop)
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#7
PooPipeBoy
P4-630

It's definitely Apple when their prices start at "unaffordable".
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#8
billEST
a great lost for humanity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#9
Vya Domus
Selaya
What is this, 8 M1s duct-taped together?
Some chip thats as big as a whole wafer? (With like 0.1% yields)
Also, little cores are totally useless on a desktop platform, literal waste of silicon (who cares whether its 3W or 9W idle on a desktop)
Yeah, I am wondering too, their cores are massive in comparison with Intel's. 64 big cores seems completely unfeasible to me.
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#10
Dristun
I imagine many people gonna laugh and seethe but I honestly can't wait for Apple to smoke the hell out of competition performance-wise. They could compete in many tasks against higher-end mobile chips with M1 constrained by laughable MBAir cooling solution, can't see why they wouldn't be able to scale it all the way up. And you bet that they'll push partner devs hard to optimize for their stuff. Definitely the most exciting thing in chips since AMD managed to start climbing back from abyss with Zen, probably even better than that.
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#11
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Vya Domus
Yeah, I am wondering too, their cores are massive in comparison with Intel's. 64 big cores seems completely unfeasible to me.
If AMD hadn't had a 64 core CPU out now and a 96 core CPU in the works I'd agree. So yes, high tech duct tape.
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#12
DrCR
Yeah, it's almost like they are a for profit company i.e. maximizing shareholder value.
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#13
Mescalamba
Its most likely multi-CPU boards. I think ARMs can be paired a bit easier than our current server CPUs.
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#14
Darmok N Jalad
I'd be surprised if we ever see an AS-based iMac Pro (they will just be called iMacs). The Intel version was Apple trying to throw pros a bone while the trash can Mac Pro was the only pro option, and everything else was stuck on quad cores at best, and the new Mac Pro was still a few years away. It was at least some nifty engineering to get that much system into an iMac shell, but most pros want some modularity. Once Intel finally went beyond quad core and AMD made Navi GPUs, the iMac Pro really lost any value it could have possibly offered.

I also wonder what an AS-based Mac Pro is going to look like. RIght now, they don't even support TB GPUs, so it's quite possible that all Apple will do is up the core counts on their own silicon for their product stack.I could see it being MCM or even traditional multi-socket, just not upgradeable sockets.
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#15
Vya Domus
Frick
If AMD hadn't had a 64 core CPU out now and a 96 core CPU in the works I'd agree.
Except their designs are simply much smaller area and transistor budget wise as well.
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#16
TristanX
It is matter of time when they develop their own GPU, and kick AMD. Even more, to increase profits, they may release it in standalone graphics card, to compete with NV, AMD and (soon) Intel
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#17
windwhirl
1d10t
They didn't have to paid third party anymore sooo, maximum profit?
Maximum profit? No, MAXIMUMER PROFIT.
Vya Domus
Except their designs are simply much smaller area and transistor budget wise as well.
But Apple has far more budget. Definitely looking forward to seeing what they came up with to build this, chiplet approach and/or something else?
TristanX
It is matter of time when they develop their own GPU, and kick AMD. Even more, to increase profits, they may release it in standalone graphics card, to compete with NV, AMD and (soon) Intel
They already have, for the mobile devices. They just have to upscale it and make a few adjustments here and there.

Though I doubt they'd release standalone GPUs for the mass market. At best, it would be given the choice of taking a Mac to an Apple shop and get an upgrade right then and there.
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#19
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Vya Domus
Except their designs are simply much smaller area and transistor budget wise as well.
So?
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#20
medi01
windwhirl
But Apple has far more budget.
And that... helps, right? #IntelAmCry
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#21
dicktracy
Expect Apple to take up even more capacities from TSMC
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#22
Selaya
windwhirl
[ ... ]But Apple has far more budget. Definitely looking forward to seeing what they came up with to build this, chiplet approach and/or something else? [ ... ]
They would be retarded indeed if it wasn't chiplet, because their yields would be in the negative.
Last time I checked, no money of the world would enable you to defy cold, hard physics.
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#23
windwhirl
Selaya
They would be retarded indeed if it wasn't chiplet, because their yields would be in the negative.
Last time I checked, no money of the world would enable you to defy cold, hard physics.
Of course, it wasn't clear in my comment, but the money thing is mostly about the core design/architecture (single thread performance with efficient upscaling to MT). They can literally throw billions into R&D to come up with a good design that could blow our minds in term of overall performance.
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#24
Darmok N Jalad
TristanX
It is matter of time when they develop their own GPU, and kick AMD. Even more, to increase profits, they may release it in standalone graphics card, to compete with NV, AMD and (soon) Intel
The whole point of their direction was to not be at the mercy of Intel, AMD, or NVIDIA. I doubt they would ever make a GPU and sell it outside of MacOS. That would mean supporting other platforms in software, which is something Apple has not really showed a lot of interest and dedication in.
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#25
Hardware Geek
Dristun
I imagine many people gonna laugh and seethe but I honestly can't wait for Apple to smoke the hell out of competition performance-wise. They could compete in many tasks against higher-end mobile chips with M1 constrained by laughable MBAir cooling solution, can't see why they wouldn't be able to scale it all the way up. And you bet that they'll push partner devs hard to optimize for their stuff. Definitely the most exciting thing in chips since AMD managed to start climbing back from abyss with Zen, probably even better than that.
I'm quite hopeful apple moving to arm will be beneficial to the entire computer industry. Windows on arm could be great with the right processors. AMD was rumored to be working on an arm chip a while back and I'd love to see a successor to that project.
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