Good grief those prices..... I know gaming laptops get expensive, but jeez the 5070ti laptops are almost 2K at this point. Wonder if we will see any cheaper options with those chips down the line.

$4299 cheapest. I still don't understand why you would buy a laptop. Well I guess no SFF for 5090 desktops so I guess this is the next best thing.

Low availability? Who'd have guessed?

blinnbanir$4299 cheapest. I still don't understand why you would buy a laptop. Well I guess no SFF for 5090 desktops so I guess this is the next best thing.

The biggest market for gaming laptops these days is probably college students; they need a laptop to take around for classes, and would like to game as well, and convincing their parents to get them a gaming laptop that covers both is easier than asking for a regular laptop + console/gaming desktop (that they may not have room for in dorm anyways). My wife works at a university and says she is pretty sure like half the male students are going around with gaming laptops these days. Another sizeable market would be people who have to travel a lot for work, and want to game in their hotel room after work.

GenericUsername2001The biggest market for gaming laptops these days is probably college students; they need a laptop to take around for classes, and would like to game as well, and convincing their parents to get them a gaming laptop that covers both is easier than asking for a regular laptop + console/gaming desktop (that they may not have room for in dorm anyways). My wife works at a university and says she is pretty sure like half the male students are going around with gaming laptops these days. Another sizeable market would be people who have to travel a lot for work, and want to game in their hotel room after work.

The only issue with that is these laptops will be heavy. A Gaming laptop does make LAN parties easier but lugging one of these in a school bad would not be fun. Next time I fly my Gaming laptop is going in my suitcase and my Ally will be my entertainment. For $600 Canadian makes this eye watering as 4299 US is about $5400 Canadian. That is in the range of obscene given that backdrop. Add a USB C adapter to your Ally and it could actually replace your laptop for most things.

blinnbanirThe only issue with that is these laptops will be heavy. A Gaming laptop does make LAN parties easier but lugging one of these in a school bad would not be fun. Next time I fly my Gaming laptop is going in my suitcase and my Ally will be my entertainment. For $600 Canadian makes this eye watering as 4299 US is about $5400 Canadian. That is in the range of obscene given that backdrop. Add a USB C adapter to your Ally and it could actually replace your laptop for most things.

Well, most of the them are using smaller, cheaper, more normal sized models - think the 15" or 16" screens 4060 or the like, commonly available for less than $1000 USD. But apparently according to my wife a surprising number of students (whom I guess have well off parents) are lugging big old laptops like these around for their classes. I guess a few extra pounds in the backpack doesn't matter when you are 19. For that matter, with electronic text books being more common, I would wager even with the giant laptop they are still carrying less weight around campus than the typical student did in the past.

blinnbanir$4299 cheapest. I still don't understand why you would buy a laptop. Well I guess no SFF for 5090 desktops so I guess this is the next best thing.

I have an expensive Asus Strix G18 18" laptop with mobile 4080 and a 139800HX with 32GB of DDR5. It was a compromise situation where my wife and I like to watch shows on that laptop in one room in our house, we need a laptop to do various other tasks around the house or elsewhere, and my wife wanted to start gaming more with me and some family/friends but we didn't have a good area to set up a second desktop station (with desktop, monitor, keyboard, etc.) and I had an old gaming laptop from college (as someone else had mentioned) so she already had experienced using that and wanted the updated version. This led to us getting a high-end gaming laptop for the house that she can use for gaming wherever she wants to set up in the house (often on the couch with a wooden stand that sits above her lap that has plenty of room for the 18" behemoth laptop and a mouse mat) and we can also use the large vivid screen for whatever shows or videos we want to watch.

Before I bought it, I looked into building a little desktop and trying to figure out wireless video/audio for it, but the TV I would have set her up to use was in the same room as my gaming desktop and we kept having audio issues if we were in the same room and if the desktop isn't hard-wired to the TV, there's video lag to deal with and it also ends up only really useful for gaming, none of our other laptop needs...so I figured I could buy a ~$1-1.5k laptop and a ~$2k desktop, or we could buy a $2.5k laptop that did everything we wanted it to (at the cost of some noise that isn't super bothersome once you have a headset on anyway).

So I know this is a weird scenario and quite unique, but I was the exact target market for that.

Also, if I look at the new version of that $2499 laptop that I have, they are starting around $3399 and that isn't even with the highest CPU sku like mine was. MSI's equivalent above is $4499 lol. Do you think it's $2k faster or better than the one I bought 2 years ago? I doubt it lol.

GenericUsername2001Well, most of the them are using smaller, cheaper, more normal sized models - think the 15" or 16" screens 4060 or the like, commonly available for less than $1000 USD. But apparently according to my wife a surprising number of students (whom I guess have well off parents) are lugging big old laptops like these around for their classes. I guess a few extra pounds in the backpack doesn't matter when you are 19. For that matter, with electronic text books being more common, I would wager even with the giant laptop they are still carrying less weight around campus than the typical student did in the past.

I was someone who (not my first year, but I think when I was a Junior) bought a 17" heavy gaming laptop for while I was in college. I wanted to do MATLAB and some other software that I had assumed needed beefy hardware and I also wanted to game on it occasionally with some school friends without needing to go back to my dorm to my desktop. My parents were not well off, I worked for years to save up money and that summer I spent most of the money I had on that gaming laptop (after previously spending all my saved up money on my first car). Was it smart? probably not...but I kept working and made more money to replace it and I had loans that were covering the food and housing plans at school so back then I had no bills and nothing else I needed the money for. I'll also say that I'm big and I'd rather carry a big heavy laptop so I can benefit from the big screen than carry some light tiny flimsy thing with a crappy little screen. I've since been in the workplace for years and I still demand a laptop with a good sized screen lol.

GenericUsername2001The biggest market for gaming laptops these days is probably college students; they need a laptop to take around for classes, and would like to game as well, and convincing their parents to get them a gaming laptop that covers both is easier than asking for a regular laptop + console/gaming desktop (that they may not have room for in dorm anyways).

"Around for classes", a 4-5.000 € / $ laptop is going to be stolen very fast.

You'd think we've reached MAX STUPID at this price level but apparently not quite yet.
Keep at it, AI heroes

blinnbanir$4299 cheapest. I still don't understand why you would buy a laptop. Well I guess no SFF for 5090 desktops so I guess this is the next best thing.

But what if you need to game on the go at 4K120 yet still have a power connection all the time? I always finish my Fortnite games while driving.

BobaganooshI have an expensive Asus Strix G18 18" laptop with mobile 4080 and a 139800HX with 32GB of DDR5. It was a compromise situation where my wife and I like to watch shows on that laptop in one room in our house, we need a laptop to do various other tasks around the house or elsewhere, and my wife wanted to start gaming more with me and some family/friends but we didn't have a good area to set up a second desktop station (with desktop, monitor, keyboard, etc.) and I had an old gaming laptop from college (as someone else had mentioned) so she already had experienced using that and wanted the updated version. This led to us getting a high-end gaming laptop for the house that she can use for gaming wherever she wants to set up in the house (often on the couch with a wooden stand that sits above her lap that has plenty of room for the 18" behemoth laptop and a mouse mat) and we can also use the large vivid screen for whatever shows or videos we want to watch.

Before I bought it, I looked into building a little desktop and trying to figure out wireless video/audio for it, but the TV I would have set her up to use was in the same room as my gaming desktop and we kept having audio issues if we were in the same room and if the desktop isn't hard-wired to the TV, there's video lag to deal with and it also ends up only really useful for gaming, none of our other laptop needs...so I figured I could buy a ~$1-1.5k laptop and a ~$2k desktop, or we could buy a $2.5k laptop that did everything we wanted it to (at the cost of some noise that isn't super bothersome once you have a headset on anyway).

So I know this is a weird scenario and quite unique, but I was the exact target market for that.

Also, if I look at the new version of that $2499 laptop that I have, they are starting around $3399 and that isn't even with the highest CPU sku like mine was. MSI's equivalent above is $4499 lol. Do you think it's $2k faster or better than the one I bought 2 years ago? I doubt it lol.


I was someone who (not my first year, but I think when I was a Junior) bought a 17" heavy gaming laptop for while I was in college. I wanted to do MATLAB and some other software that I had assumed needed beefy hardware and I also wanted to game on it occasionally with some school friends without needing to go back to my dorm to my desktop. My parents were not well off, I worked for years to save up money and that summer I spent most of the money I had on that gaming laptop (after previously spending all my saved up money on my first car). Was it smart? probably not...but I kept working and made more money to replace it and I had loans that were covering the food and housing plans at school so back then I had no bills and nothing else I needed the money for. I'll also say that I'm big and I'd rather carry a big heavy laptop so I can benefit from the big screen than carry some light tiny flimsy thing with a crappy little screen. I've since been in the workplace for years and I still demand a laptop with a good sized screen lol.

Thank you for context. Something sorely missing these days.

GenericUsername2001Well, most of the them are using smaller, cheaper, more normal sized models - think the 15" or 16" screens 4060 or the like, commonly available for less than $1000 USD. But apparently according to my wife a surprising number of students (whom I guess have well off parents) are lugging big old laptops like these around for their classes. I guess a few extra pounds in the backpack doesn't matter when you are 19. For that matter, with electronic text books being more common, I would wager even with the giant laptop they are still carrying less weight around campus than the typical student did in the past.

Again great context. I have not been to College in years.

Only ONE AMD processor in that slide. I will not buy an Intel laptop chip period as my next laptop, when will integrators figure it out! I'm not the only person that is waiting on the sidelines for a great combo.

Hilux SSRGOnly ONE AMD processor in that slide. I will not buy an Intel laptop chip period as my next laptop, when will integrators figure it out! I'm not the only person that is waiting on the sidelines for a great combo.

What is insane is that you pay $1000 more to get the 285K mobile vs 16 cores and 32 threads with X3D with the AMD Cpu.

GhostRyderGood grief those prices..... I know gaming laptops get expensive, but jeez the 5070ti laptops are almost 2K at this point. Wonder if we will see any cheaper options with those chips down the line.

And they cook themselves unlike Dell XPS Gen 1, Toshiba Qosimo.