Thursday, January 8th 2026

Amid Memory Crisis, AMD Considers AM4 Zen 3 Revival

An elevation of computer memory prices—throughout late 2025 and early 2026—has prompted revisits of older generation hardware. After all, cheaper DDR4 memory offers an alternative route in the current climate. Prime examples turned up last week, when Gigabyte unveiled and launched four new AM4 socket-based motherboard models. At the end of December, ASUS was reportedly engaged in a bolstering of its AM4 motherboard production lines. Pleasingly, AMD seems to considering similar steps with its compatible Ryzen desktop processor families. Tom's Hardware gathered relevant information during a pre-CES 2026 round-table discussion.

During an interview session, David McAfee—Team Red's VP and GM of client channel business—reportedly dropped a hint about potential revivals of AM4 CPU products. In the recent past, AMD has continued to roll out (sort of) new chips based on "Zen 3" architecture. Conversely, supplies of popular SKUs—like the gaming-centric Ryzen 7 5700X3D model—have dried up. When asked about a possible older generation re-release strategy, McAfee stated that the Red Team: "(is) certainly looking at everything that (it) can do to bring more supply and kind of reintroduce products back into the (AM4) ecosystem to satisfy the demands of gamers that maybe want that significant upgrade in their AM4 platform, without having to rebuild their entire system." Elaborating a tad more, he said: "(it is) definitely something (AMD is) very actively working on." According to the TechPowerUp news archive and GPU database, Team Red's most recent new "Zen 3" desktop releases include the Ryzen 5 5600F (last September) and Ryzen 5 5500X3D (mid-2025) SKUs.
Source: Tom's Hardware
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112 Comments on Amid Memory Crisis, AMD Considers AM4 Zen 3 Revival

#51
Jism
I mean you gotta be stupid as a fabric not to jump in on the AI craze and memory / storage demand. It's true.

Usually a year or so of delivery to purely enterprise likely makes up for months of labor to come.
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#52
lexluthermiester
My two cents, I have no issues with this. A 5800X? 5900X? Bring them back! Great CPUs!
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#53
INSTG8R
Vanguard Beta Tester
I should consider myself lucky I guess that I have a 5800X3D and hadn't plan to upgrade until "probably" Zen 6? Who knows now. I did just upgrade my buddy's son's PC from a 2700X to a 5700X for Xmas. He is still tracking down RAM, He sent me a listing yesterday for a 32GB CL16 3600 kit he found and when I looked up my own kit I purchased at least 2 years ago I was genuinely surprised it wasn't that much more than I paid and told him to absolutely grab it as you really couldn't ask for anything better especially for the price and the current situation.
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#54
jesdals
Well they did make a prototype 5950x3d so if they release that I might update the old 5950x
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#55
INSTG8R
Vanguard Beta Tester
jesdalsWell they did make a prototype 5950x3d so if they release that I might update the old 5950x
If true, heck I'd even jump at that!
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#56
EsaT
Icon Charlie1. Do an Intel and have your mother board use both DDR4 and DDR5. Already proven that at the most it is around a 10% difference in performance when testing during that time period.

3. ADD more L3 cache across the board on their newest AM4 CPU's. This can be a gold mine for them IF DONE RIGHT!!!

4. AS done 30+ years ago have the motherboard be able to take on addtional L3 cache AND/or something that will enhance performance of the CPU in question.

5. AS posted previously... Create a Riser Card to take DDR4 memory and use it on a DDR5 motherboard. ASUS already created this.

6. INCREASE THE RAM SPEED. There are samples of DDR4 5000 floating out there... BUT of course GREED CAME FIRST AND CORPORATIONS JUMPED ON THE DDR5 MONEY WAGON.

7. Dual... CPU on the motherboard. I Owned a Abit BP6 that I used to create... ANIMATION!!! YES it worked well without issues. So a Dual Motherboard would be AWESOME... I would personally buy one and slap a second matched CPU.

Unfortunity I know that somehow corporations will screw this opprotunity up as well.
1:
Wouldn't happen easily.
First of all it would need designing that new memory controller capable to handling both DDR4 and DDR5. (or separate controllers with switches)
Then that design has to be "translated" to actual physical silicon, get it prototyped and tested and only then you could start moving to actual production.
So it would take significant time, then money for getting photomask done and you would also need to find free fab capacity for it.

3:
If you mean stacked 3D cache that's significant cost with both manufacturing for that extra piece of silicon and then more cmplex packaging of parts to make CPU.
And integrating more cache into CCD isn't easy either:
SRAM needing six transistors per bit is rather expensive in silicon area.
And that bigger physical size of cache block also means struggle to keep access latency down, because speed of electricity is simply limited in time scale modern processors operate at.
Different CCD would also incur all the costs of 1 and even more so because of needing more higher end node than IOD.

4:
Only thing that could ever achieve is worser performance for higher price!
Splitting cache like that would make more complex system with its "bureaucracy penalty" and the partition of cache on mobo would hardly be faster than RAM. (distance=lower performance)
So it wouldn't make much real sense even as additional L4 cache level.

5.
If such thing already exists, why should AMD spend resources on expanding to such product area?
Good modern chipset would more useful to replace current AM5 X-serie duct tape solutions wasting power and incurring latency penalties.

6.
AMD is no DRAM maker.
DIMM manufacturers simply buy what ever standard DRAM chips are available from manufacturers (who have moved capacity from DDR¤ to DDR5), then test and bin them, with higher end DIMMs using better bin chips and already as overvolted and overlocked.
And even if AMD wanted to become DRAM maker with new high clock speeds capable DDR4 DRAM chips, where would they find free fab capacity?


7. Dual CPUs made sense in time when CPUs were running single thread.
Now you're better of putting that money into higher up CPU model instead of even more expensive mobo than what they are nowadays.
(also in time of Abit BP6 memory controller was on mobo and not in CPU itself)
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#57
Nathaaab
Icon Charlie1. Do an Intel and have your mother board use both DDR4 and DDR5. Already proven that at the most it is around a 10% difference in performance when testing during that time period.
That's just not even true, early DDR5 sure but now it's a lot more in favour of DDR5, and that's before even tuning.
www.techspot.com/review/2862-ddr5-vs-ddr4-gaming/
DDR4 and DDR5 have different form factors and you add a new IO die that can support both cases.
Icon Charlie2. create the New AMD 5900 Special Series of CPU's. I know there is still more power under the hood and the AM5 was just a money grab (as proven by the AMD tax AND DDR5 crisis of that time)
What? A better socket with more pins and support for newer PCIe standards and soeeds is a money grab? You know you don't need to buy it if you prefer slower components.
Icon Charlie3. ADD more L3 cache across the board on their newest AM4 CPU's. This can be a gold mine for them IF DONE RIGHT!!!
Takes space, that's why AMD asks TSMC to stacks it on their CCDs.... and it's just a bandaid for the slow memory perf.
Icon Charlie4. AS done 30+ years ago have the motherboard be able to take on addtional L3 cache AND/or something that will enhance performance of the CPU in question.
30+ years ago CPUs didn't even have L2 cache. If you want to enhance performance you tune.
Icon Charlie5. AS posted previously... Create a Riser Card to take DDR4 memory and use it on a DDR5 motherboard. ASUS already created this.
It exists and it went nowhere because it's a janky solution at best, even worse than SODIMM to DIMM adapters. Probably has a lot of instability and made no sense, which is why they never actually sold it.
Icon Charlie6. INCREASE THE RAM SPEED. There are samples of DDR4 5000 floating out there... BUT of course GREED CAME FIRST AND CORPORATIONS JUMPED ON THE DDR5 MONEY WAGON.
Why would you use DDR4 5000 when DDR5 has clocked beyond 9k nowadays. How is making a better standard greed?
DDR4 is technically limited and even if it can reach 5000 MT/s this is only attainable on specific platforms (Intel) with a lot of tuning. AMD couldn't even do more than 3800 MT/s on chiplet Zen 3.
Icon Charlie7. Dual... CPU on the motherboard. I Owned a Abit BP6 that I used to create... ANIMATION!!! YES it worked well without issues. So a Dual Motherboard would be AWESOME... I would personally buy one and slap a second matched CPU.
Awful. Scheduling issues, latency issues, high consumption. This hasn't been a thing in years for us consumers because of how terrible it was for anything that isn't servers.

There's a reason standards have evolved or things have changed and no it's not just "greed!! money wagon!!". The greed is elsewhere like the structural reallocation of manufacturing toward high-margin products for AI at the cost of us consumers.
I hope the AI bubble pops soon and things become more reasonable again too.
ChomiqThey would make good money if they decided to produce 5800X3D's again.
Weren't these CPUs leftover Milan-X CCDs? I doubt AMD has any interest in restarting production on 7nm node and having to still use TSMC's expensive packaging tech for the 3D v-cache.
Blue4130They should add ecc support to consumer motherboards like the b550 and other ddr4 boards. It wouldn't solve the problem completely, but then at least the pool of potential ram would be higher.
I believe many AM4 boards and CPU's do support ECC.
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#58
AusWolf
Considering how much software and game development has slowed down in recent years, I think this is a good choice.
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#59
Chomiq
lexluthermiesterMy two cents, I have no issues with this. A 5800X? 5900X? Bring them back! Great CPUs!
You can still buy 5800X in retail. 5900X not so much but 5950X is still available.
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#60
jackintosh157
I regret getting the 5700x3d over the 5800x3d, though at the time I guess it was $100 cheaper. The 5700x3d clock speeds are significantly knee capped compared to the 5800x3d.
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#61
wNotyarD
jackintosh157I regret getting the 5700x3d over the 5800x3d, though at the time I guess it was $100 cheaper. The 5700x3d clock speeds are significantly knee capped compared to the 5800x3d.
I don't, the 5800X3D was already unobtainium around here when I got my 5700X3D, and I say that while being the first owner of one here in TPU. At least the first to share in the tech purchases thread.
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#62
Tek-Check
lexluthermiesterMy two cents, I have no issues with this. A 5800X? 5900X? Bring them back! Great CPUs!
Exactly, to ease the pain through this crazy RAM crisis for millions with older rigs. Totally fine.
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#63
lexluthermiester
ChomiqYou can still buy 5800X in retail. 5900X not so much but 5950X is still available.
But they're not in production. So if AMD brings them back, I say they'd be welcome.
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#64
Blue4130
Nathaaab.


I believe many AM4 boards and CPU's do support ECC.
They support unregistered ecc but that is rare to find.

I mean registered ecc. That would increase the pool significantly.
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#66
AusWolf
ReadlightWhy not for AM3, AM2?
Because Zen 3 is relatively cheap to make, but still plenty powerful. AM3 and AM2 CPUs don't meet both criteria.
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#67
Onasi
ReadlightWhy not for AM3, AM2?
Building a Bulldozer rig in 2026 would be a special and unusual kind of masochism, not gonna lie.
But no, the answer is that because AM4 chips are still absolutely capable CPUs for whatever task you want to throw at them.
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#68
Frank_100
I have a 5.5 year old Ryzen 9 5950x. A better more powerful AM4 socket cpu would be a no brainer upgrade, but I want 9950x power at least. That machine is mostly used for music production so cpu power is the main bottle neck. Not so much for mixing or recording but for back-ups. The plan is to build a Thread Ripper machine in a year. Moar cores.
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#69
lexluthermiester
OnasiBuilding a Bulldozer rig in 2026 would be a special and unusual kind of masochism, not gonna lie.
It really would be a form of self-torture. AM4 was one of the most excellent platforms ever created.
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#70
efikkan
Event HorizonAny hardware can be decent if the price is right.
Not for normal desktop use. You need a certain base level of performance to get a decent user experience, whether it's for web browsing, gaming, basic office applications or more demanding productive applications. At this point, low performance in web browsing and applications are probably more annoying than in gaming, at least as long as you can keep most current games at a low enough setting where it doesn't affect latency. But in applications you get to a point where you notice the lag on input and you also get a lot of glitching with user input.

The software used obviously matters, like any Linux distro is going to handle old hardware than Windows 11 or even 10. Running a light distro or tweaking it will give you even more mileage, but you should know that older systems are quickly becoming more obsolete.

I would strongly advice thinking over it twice before going for any semi-obsolete platform, especially Zen 3 or older. There is a significant difference in system snappiness vs. newer generations. Even Raptor Lake (which I have side-by-side) is much more responsive, while the Zen 3 is borderline annoying for heavy surfing and office work. For gaming it will be decent, for now. But I believe those saving a few hundred bucks buying Zen 3 will be very disappointed in a couple of years as software continues to get more bloated.

Contrary to most, my advice is to by a current generation platform, as there are good options from both vendors, and it wouldn't immediately be borderline obsolete. But this probably means you have to save up a bit more, or adjust your expectations. You can shave off a bit by buying a cheaper case (or reusing one), cheaper motherboard, cheaper tower cooler instead of AIO, standard JEDEC speed memory instead of OC (which only lose you ~2-3% gaming performance, and be much more stable), going with less memory (for now), etc. but just don't skimp on the PSU. Even with CPUs you should consider 8 or even 6 cores with the fastest cores rather than 12 or 16 if you are budget constrained, as those will fare better than an older generation with more cores. (And there's also the time to try out Linux, just saying. ;) )

For those who really want (need) an older platform (new or used), Raptor Lake is a much stronger candidate than Zen 3, although you will need better cooling. But even here, you are sacrificing a bit of performance by using DDR4, but luckily it affects more larger productivity tasks than system responsiveness and latency.
AthenaWell, yes, for NOW, but, once the current stock of DDR4 dries up, then what?
The current supply of DDR4 DIMMs are probably mostly based off old stock chips, and the DDR4 prices were already surging before this, so DDR4 isn't going to "save us" for long.
Icon Charlie3. ADD more L3 cache across the board on their newest AM4 CPU's. This can be a gold mine for them IF DONE RIGHT!!!
L3 will only help a few cases, especially low resolution gaming, but not system responsiveness or computational performance.
Icon Charlie6. INCREASE THE RAM SPEED. There are samples of DDR4 5000 floating out there...
Those CPUs will not run those speeds 100% stable for long. The voltage needed would wear out the memory controller quickly.
HEDT platforms with quad channels are a much better option.
Icon Charlie7. Dual... CPU on the motherboard. I Owned a Abit BP6 that I used to create... ANIMATION!!! YES it worked well without issues. So a Dual Motherboard would be AWESOME... I would personally buy one and slap a second matched CPU.
Then go buy a couple of cheap Xeons off ebay, and you'll quickly realize that there's something called memory latency and that more cores never compensates for slow cores.
Blue4130They should add ecc support to consumer motherboards like the b550 and other ddr4 boards. It wouldn't solve the problem completely, but then at least the pool of potential ram would be higher.

Yes, i know that the ecc price would increase as well, but more potential ram is never a bad thing.
There are some boards which "supports" it, but people's success with it varies. But don't forget that AM4 will only support ECC UDIMMs, which are only produced in low volumes for entry servers and "workstations", contrary to RDIMMs which are generally widely available used on ebay.

In that sense, going for the Skylake-W/Cascade Lake-W Xeons which supports RDIMMs, or the X299 platform for regular non-ECC DDR4, is much better, with quad channel memory, lots of PCIe and performance in gaming and general responsiveness which is equivalent or better than Zen 3. Back in 2021-22 during the hardware shortage, I was strongly considering buying 2-3 setups of these, as the CPUs were $100+ and very cheap RAM. I could find bundles for ~$500+ (with 64 or 128 GB). I haven't tracked the prices lately, but I would go for this long before considering buying into AM4.

And you might ask, why not Zen 3 Threadrippers? Those are generally way too expensive, but if you find a deal then everything should be on the table. :)
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#71
Grimling
And soon i will be able to sell my good old 2600K with 16gig of DDR3 as a "High End Gaming PC"...just wait for it.
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#72
AusWolf
efikkanNot for normal desktop use. You need a certain base level of performance to get a decent user experience, whether it's for web browsing, gaming, basic office applications or more demanding productive applications. At this point, low performance in web browsing and applications are probably more annoying than in gaming, at least as long as you can keep most current games at a low enough setting where it doesn't affect latency. But in applications you get to a point where you notice the lag on input and you also get a lot of glitching with user input.

The software used obviously matters, like any Linux distro is going to handle old hardware than Windows 11 or even 10. Running a light distro or tweaking it will give you even more mileage, but you should know that older systems are quickly becoming more obsolete.

I would strongly advice thinking over it twice before going for any semi-obsolete platform, especially Zen 3 or older. There is a significant difference in system snappiness vs. newer generations. Even Raptor Lake (which I have side-by-side) is much more responsive, while the Zen 3 is borderline annoying for heavy surfing and office work. For gaming it will be decent, for now. But I believe those saving a few hundred bucks buying Zen 3 will be very disappointed in a couple of years as software continues to get more bloated.
How much performance do you need for web browsing? I have a 4th gen i5 HTPC with DDR3 that can browse the web just fine.
efikkanContrary to most, my advice is to by a current generation platform, as there are good options from both vendors, and it wouldn't immediately be borderline obsolete.
That also involves buying DDR5 which isn't a very good idea right now.

Contrary to most, I think obsolete = unfit for purpose, and not something that isn't sold anymore.
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#73
lexluthermiester
AusWolfHow much performance do you need for web browsing? I have a 4th gen i5 HTPC with DDR3 that can browse the web just fine.
I have a Laptop very similar to that. 4th Gen i7, Quadro K3100M, 16GB of RAM, 960GB performance SSD + 1TB budget SSD. If that were my only system, it would be acceptable for most of what I care about.
AusWolfThat also involves buying DDR5 which is dumbass idea right now.
Minor correction for how I feel about it... :toast:
AusWolfContrary to most, I think obsolete = unfit for purpose, and not something that isn't sold anymore.
Exactly. Just because something is older does NOT mean it's useless or obsolete. Hell, my Dell T3500 from 2011 STILL holds it's own with modern Windows installed.

So bringing back Ryzen 5000 series CPU's? No brainer, excellent platform still! Only clueless whiny elitists think otherwise.
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#74
Blue4130
AusWolfHow much performance do you need for web browsing? I have a 4th gen i5 HTPC with DDR3 that can browse the web just fine.
A 4th gen i5 is light years faster than a pentium 4.
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#75
lexluthermiester
Blue4130A 4th gen i5 is light years faster than a pentium 4.
Of course. No one is suggesting bring back the Pentium4 line up though..
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