Event HorizonQA issue. Doesn't matter if human or AI wrote the code.

Precisely, and the rest is conjecture anyway. Is it a bad look to have a driver cause issues and need to be rolled back? of course, process wise something isn't right at the moment and they need to get on top of that. However I respect it being promptly pulled with advice given.

I was offered the studio drivers this morning. Glad I didn’t have time to install them.

AGlezBIf you're refering to the WHQL part then you're mostly right. The WHQL purpose is to ensure compatibility with Windows and doesn't guarantee the driver is actually any good. That's said, WHQL certification used to cost money per test so companies generally didn't submit their drivers until they were thoroughly tested internally, which meant higher confidence in general for WHQL certified drivers.

Nvidia, AMD, Intel, etc. all self certify. They don’t submit drivers to Microsoft.

Hecate91I'd guess most of their code is AI, and the software team isn't stopping to check the AI slop coding because the only thing that matters is AI hardware.
It isn't premature at all to question whether Nvidia is using AI to code drivers, after they had months of bad drivers and ineffective hotfixes, now they're back to terrible mistakes they have no excuses to be making.

And for those who want to shield the company, maybe if Nvidia would simply have real people do QA, they wouldn't need to pull back drivers. It looks ridiculously sloppy at this point for a $5 trillion company to have drivers this bad. Intel labels their Arc drivers as a beta and they're more stable than this,lol.

Let me guess, none of this applies to AMD when they pull system killing drivers, right?

I needed this laugh, more please!

Sound_CardI was told they have HAD the best drivers.

Fixed for you.

Well I installed the driver and not experiencing any bug, so might as well keep it since I'm going try out RE Requiem in a few hours.

Somehow 196.75 is back 16 years later, but this time AI powered!

BobaganooshI see the AI continues to deliver outstanding quality.

are those new nvidia driver,

595.59 WHQL

has been built by AI ?

arni-gxare those new nvidia driver,

595.59 WHQL

has been built by AI ?

AleksandarK in 30,000 NVIDIA Engineers Use Generative AI for 3x Higher Code OutputThe company that started the entire wave of AI infrastructure and development is now enjoying the fruits of its work. NVIDIA has deployed generative AI tools across its company to an astonishing 30,00…

They just bragged about how much AI coding they are doing, including their GPU drivers.

I think they've been vibe coding their drivers for a year. Ever since the launch of the DLSS 4 along with the 50 series cards, their drivers have been WAY more buggy than in the past few years prior.

Soon they will catch up Creative and probably earn the crown of the most buggiest drivers ever released by someone.

That's what you get when AI write code...

PerfectWavewondering ready for what? :roll:

Ready to play a game with you = game ready driver. :roll:



Seriously though, maybe if the focus was on releasing well tested drivers that just work, but less frequently (like the other two GPU companies do) instead of all these "day one game optimisations" of unknown nature, then we wouldn't have this problem to begin with. What is there to optimise all the damn time anyway? If you need to "optimise", that only means that something is not working properly in the previous version.

neatfeatguyAnd folks give me crap about my; if it isn't broke, don't fix it mentality when it comes to drivers or OS updates from Windows.

Get burned enough times you learn to not "fix" something that isn't broke.

I had exactly the same thoughts.

Due to the update the article about new Geforce driver is now above the article about how this driver was pulled.

Please update the "NVIDIA Pulls GeForce 595.59 WHQL Game Ready Driver After Widespread Bug Reports" too, so it will be above - people might just skim the headlines, only get so far and then try to download the driver...

BwazeDue to the update the article about new Geforce driver is now above the article about how this driver was pulled.

Please update the "NVIDIA Pulls GeForce 595.59 WHQL Game Ready Driver After Widespread Bug Reports" too, so it will be above - people might just skim the headlines, only get so far and then try to download the driver...

It's already updated and simply unavailable to download.

Sound_CardI was told they have the best drivers.

Ever since the release of the 50-series cards the driver quality went down hill.

I have only one thing to say - ha ha ha ha ha 🤣

Goddamn morons vibecoded the drivers... 🤣

Comment section, as always, did not disapoint.

Visible NoiseI was offered the studio drivers this morning. Glad I didn’t have time to install them.

These days, delaying updates from everyone is the best way to update. Let somebody else to be beta-tester.

Visible NoiseLet me guess, none of this applies to AMD when they pull system killing drivers, right?

They are also greedy corpo, just not as successful. So, I assume they also use AI to write drivers... Hell, they may have been using it for 20 years already 🤣

wolfPrecisely, and the rest is conjecture anyway. Is it a bad look to have a driver cause issues and need to be rolled back? of course, process wise something isn't right at the moment and they need to get on top of that. However I respect it being promptly pulled with advice given.

Putting copium aside, we all know why MS, AMD and nVidia are getting blasted for their updates...

And you know what is worst? It is not this, when error is caught on day one and driver is pulled. No, that is corrective action by the company that can be even greeted.

Worst is when driver work and nobody complains, but technical debt of AI slop keeps growing. Indefinitely...

InfernaIt's already updated and simply unavailable to download.

I meant the order of articles is now:

NVIDIA Releases GeForce 595.59 WHQL Game Ready Drivers

And lower down an "older" article:

NVIDIA Pulls GeForce 595.59 WHQL Game Ready Driver After Widespread Bug Reports

I know you can't download the driver any more, but some might just open the page, see there's a new Nvidia driver and proceed to Nvidia's driver page to try to download it, without reading the article or proceeding to the next one.

BwazeI meant the order of articles is now:

NVIDIA Releases GeForce 595.59 WHQL Game Ready Drivers

And lower down an "older" article:

NVIDIA Pulls GeForce 595.59 WHQL Game Ready Driver After Widespread Bug Reports

I know you can't download the driver any more, but some might just open the page, see there's a new Nvidia driver and proceed to Nvidia's driver page to try to download it, without reading the article or proceeding to the next one.

Yerah - article are misordered. The updated timestamps are the same, so it looks like an error.

Aleksandar_038Putting copium aside, we all know why MS, AMD and nVidia are getting blasted for their updates...

I don't call it copium, my take is that correlation doesn't definitively equal causation. Driver issues have happened for many years before any code was being assisted by AI, and like I said even if it definitely was (no proof of that), it's still ultimately a/some humans fault. Tools have existed for decades to streamline code (among other things) creation. AI (catch all buzzword losing its meaning) can be a powerful tool to assist in some tasks, but the work always needs to be checked and properly tested by actual people, that's the real failing here and one Nvidia definitely need to get on top of and fast, they would certainly be motivated to try their best to maintain the reputation for drivers they've had over many years now.

I'm more amused by the usual suspects that not only come to spread negativity, but do so with a double standard of crying foul in their favourite brands threads and using the usual bad faith and locigally fallacial arguments. I'm not here to say they aren't allowed an opinion because they don't own any relevant hardware (that's their stance), just find the hypocrisy entertaining. It was a welcome surprise to finally see a particularly toxic member that did this all the time banned recently.

wolfI don't call it copium, my take is that correlation doesn't definitively equal causation. Driver issues have happened for many years before any code was being assisted by AI, and like I said even if it definitely was (no proof of that), it's still ultimately a/some humans fault. Tools have existed for decades to streamline code (among other things) creation. AI (catch all buzzword losing its meaning) can be a powerful tool to assist in some tasks, but the work always needs to be checked and properly tested by actual people, that's the real failing here and one Nvidia definitely need to get on top of and fast, they would certainly be motivated to try their best to maintain the reputation for drivers they've had over many years now.

I agree with this part of your comment. The use of AI isn't inherently bad, but shouldn't negate quality control implemented by humans.

wolfI'm more amused by the usual suspects that not only come to spread negativity, but do so with a double standard of crying foul in their favourite brands threads and using the usual bad faith and locigally fallacial arguments. I'm not here to say they aren't allowed an opinion because they don't own any relevant hardware (that's their stance), just find the hypocrisy entertaining. It was a welcome surprise to finally see a particularly toxic member that did this all the time banned recently.

If you're thinking about the member that I think you're thinking about, he wasn't banned. He requested the deletion of his account himself due to being tired of fighting the other, equally toxic side.

Received an email for the latest nvidia driver the new version is: 595.59 WHQL and the shortcut takes me to the last driver download: 591.86..?!

neatfeatguyAnd folks give me crap about my; if it isn't broke, don't fix it mentality when it comes to drivers or OS updates from Windows.

Get burned enough times you learn to not "fix" something that isn't broke.

I've used NVIDIA for years and I always installed latest drivers. Never really had any issues except once with Youtube playback on GTX 1080Ti. RTX 3080 had one issue, but I can't remember what it was exactly. With ATi/AMD I only had an issue once, it was corrupted textures in original Oblivion back when it was released and it immediately got fixed by BETA driver update. I think I had Radeon HD6950 back then. The amount of issues NVIDIA has these days is very disproportional to how wealthy they are. I guess they really dump all the efforts into AI bullshit, even when that's entirely different division from gaming one...

RejZoRI've used NVIDIA for years and I always installed latest drivers. Never really had any issues except once with Youtube playback on GTX 1080Ti. RTX 3080 had one issue, but I can't remember what it was exactly. With ATi/AMD I only had an issue once, it was corrupted textures in original Oblivion back when it was released and it immediately got fixed by BETA driver update. I think I had Radeon HD6950 back then. The amount of issues NVIDIA has these days is very disproportional to how wealthy they are. I guess they really dump all the efforts into AI bullshit, even when that's entirely different division from gaming one...

Your memory seems to be a bit foggy. The original Oblivion was released in 2006. The HD 6950 is a 2010 card. Other than that, I agree.

So what went wrong when you would install these? I haven't seen one thing about errors from anyone, just Nvidia pulling the driver from bug reports. What bugs?

zenlessyankSo what went wrong when you would install these? I haven't seen one thing about errors from anyone, just Nvidia pulling the driver from bug reports. What bugs?

Nothing important, just disabling GPU fans.
Who need those they're noisy anyway!

InfernaNothing important, just disabling GPU fans.
Who need those they're noisy anyway!

Not a problem if you run a deshrouded setup off case fan headers lol