FR3D1They are no longer what they once were.


No, please don't.


Here, happily generating pixels with “581.57”.


You can claim a lot when you don't have to prove otherwise. So I agree with you and say: you're talking nonsense!

With a friendly smile,

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581.47 was a Hotfix driver i think.

581.57 has some issues with Windows Cursors making them look pale, a bunch of users including myself suffered from that.

So once I made my switch to Nvidia, they decide to tank their driver quality 😆

You couldn't make it up could you... Well maybe if you'd been following Microsofts vibe coded borkages

csendesmarkSo once I made my switch to Nvidia, they decide to tank their driver quality 😆

Well I switched to AMD and they virtually stopped releasing GPUs so there is that :roll:

Seems 595.59 did more, or at least its left overs?
I did uninstall it using latest DDU and then installed 591.86 with NVCleanstall (which still offers 595.59 as latest version btw).
Everything okay except that neither the Nvidia Control Panel opens nor Nvidia App :(
Tried 591.59 also, but the same.
And now no matter what I do: Nvidia Control Panel does not open (it shows the icon in the taskbar though and NVIDIA Display Container LS service is also running) and when trying Nvidia App (which I normally don't use) it just shows a window with a green rotating circle.
Did try it with DDU and NVCleanstal, did try it all manually, but no Nvidia Control Panel anymore.

Edit:
Well, I got the Nvidia Control Panel (nvcplui.exe) again but only by running it myself directly from C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\NVIDIACorp.NVIDIAControlPanel_8.1.969.0_x64__56jybvy8sckqj
Using the rightclick menu from my desktop or the taskbar just doesn't work anymore.

umeng2002I think they've been vibe coding their drivers for a year. Ever since the launch of the DLSS 4 along with the 50 series cards, their drivers have been WAY more buggy than in the past few years prior.

Another thing made me curious today. The driver sizes have been ballooning for years now. You compound that with their statement about how many more lines of code the AI is delivering their engineers lately. One thing I've seen a lot of software engineers comment about AI code is that it's usually waaaaay more complicated or verbose than it needs to be. It tends to turn a simple function into some complex disorganized mess...it might work...but it's anything other than efficient. That may be anecdotal information, but I haven't seen anyone show evidence of anything else. I wonder how big the driver files will be next year.

BobaganooshAnother thing made me curious today. The driver sizes have been ballooning for years now. You compound that with their statement about how many more lines of code the AI is delivering their engineers lately. One thing I've seen a lot of software engineers comment about AI code is that it's usually waaaaay more complicated or verbose than it needs to be. It tends to turn a simple function into some complex disorganized mess...it might work...but it's anything other than efficient. That may be anecdotal information, but I haven't seen anyone show evidence of anything else. I wonder how big the driver files will be next year.

Yes, technical debt of vibe-codes stuff is going to be horrendous.

And all that hours saved by giving job to AI will be spent because you will have to rewrite things far more often.

I start to think that even this fake AI is smarter than some top management...

I did have these pulled drivers installed on my 4080 Super, but never gamed with them. I DDU'd them before firing up RE9. No issues on my end with the older drivers in.

Can confirm massive Path Tracing improvements in the RE9 initial street scene when using the older 576.88 drivers from last July on my 4080 Super. If you roll back, and play RE9, use those.

Everyone blaming AI, I see it as quality AI programming / awareness.... disable fans in an attempt to overheat cards in order to increase demand for new cards. It's learning!

umeng2002I did have these pulled drivers installed on my 4080 Super, but never gamed with them. I DDU'd them before firing up RE9. No issues on my end with the older drivers in.

Can confirm massive Path Tracing improvements in the RE9 initial street scene when using the older 576.88 drivers from last July on my 4080 Super. If you roll back, and play RE9, use those.

I am curious, are you on win10 or win11 ?

Sound_CardImagine paying a grand for card that has AI generated driver code lol.

Sadly we no longer have to imagine, we are paying 1500+ for mediocre cards and now we are getting crappy drivers for over priced cards twice per month in most cases.

AMD broke their last driver release, likely the result of AI integration in the code base, and Nvidia is doing the same, the old saying everybody was so concerned with the question:

Can we do this? instead of should we do this.

The cans always win and all the users and product purchasers are used as testing groups for funky experimental code

this will continue until we start seeing hardware failure because something is really badly implemented in the thermal throttling part of things.

Performance will get prioritized to the point that failure is guaranteed. But the AI programmer wont think its failure it will just see the new performance numbers, not caring or being concerned that those numbers are only sustainable for 15 minutes before something on the card melts.

But the end users will get blamed for the failure because why would Nvidia take any responsibility, they will just buy more stuff from us will be the rallying cry.

Two out of three fans and can control with no problem,work with AB , the third single fan will speed up ,when playing a game , just no fan usage or RPM in AB,GPUZ, HWinfo64, other than that, not a issue for me.

BeertintedgogglesEveryone blaming AI, I see it as quality AI programming / awareness.... disable fans in an attempt to overheat cards in order to increase demand for new cards. It's learning!

Well, if it is leather-jacket-man AI, it could be they taught it that way 😏

If this issue was with AMD, hardware unboxed and every other channel and media outlet would have pounced on them, but as usual when it comes to Nvidia....

Dragam1337I am curious, are you on win10 or win11 ?

Windows 11, fully updated.

umeng2002Windows 11, fully updated.

That is curious. Cause it would have made sense that a driver from last summer would have better performance on win10, from before official win10 support stopped - but with win11... must be another case of ai slop drivers since then.

I just heard about it on X or Reddit or somewhere and decided to try it. DDU'd 591.86 and installed 576.88. The nVidia CP and nVidia App did auto-update however to their latest versions after the rollback, but official nVidia profiles are still missing from both the applications.

Even with 591.86, RE9 still used profile D as the RR default model, so rolling back to a July 2025 driver did change that aspect of running the game.

I did notice my GPU fans running faster with the older driver compared to 591.86, I didn't do power testing though.

umeng2002I just heard about it on X or Reddit or somewhere and decided to try it. DDU'd 591.86 and installed 576.88. The nVidia CP and nVidia App did auto-update however to their latest versions after the rollback, but official nVidia profiles are still missing from both the applications.

Even with 591.86, RE9 still used profile D as the RR default model, so rolling back to a July 2025 driver did change that aspect of running the game.

I did notice my GPU fans running faster with the older driver compared to 591.86, I didn't do power testing though.

You should do a clean install without nvidia app, and all that junk - control profiles through nvidia inspector or dlssswapper :)

Do we have literally any indication this was because AI code? Developers can make mistakes too, y'know.

theonlyrobertDo we have literally any indication this was because AI code? Developers can make mistakes too, y'know.

All their many driver blunders started at the same time they started using ai to write their drivers... i would say that's sufficient indication...

SemperPC09Oh no, Is Vibe-Coding not getting good results. Oh no, what will Nvida do? They couldn't just write the code themselves, like every normal person.

Apparently you just don’t know how to run a big business . They are probably really short on cash, so are unfortunately forced to make cuts on experienced programmers/engineers…umm...Right.
/s

W3RN3RIf this issue was with AMD, hardware unboxed and every other channel and media outlet would have pounced on them, but as usual when it comes to Nvidia....

This is not true, in fact, if AMD pulled every defective driver they ship, you'd get one every 3 years.

The fact that they've pulled it and are working on a fix is an acknowledgement that an issue exists. That's all you could really ask of them.

nvidAI

W3RN3RIf this issue was with AMD, hardware unboxed and every other channel and media outlet would have pounced on them, but as usual when it comes to Nvidia....

you are wrong

BeertintedgogglesEveryone blaming AI, I see it as quality AI programming / awareness.... disable fans in an attempt to overheat cards in order to increase demand for new cards. It's learning!

The first thing that came to mind was when NVIDIA allegedly did that on purpose with the 196.75 drivers. I guess Vera Rubin is a ways out, so that might not be the reason here :D

wolfDriver issues have happened for many years before any code was being assisted by AI

When was the last time Nvidia released such buggy drivers as it’s the case basically since Blackwell release?