Did anyone else raise an eyebrow of suspicion to this?

DrUsmanSaleemHelix is meant to run both Xbox console games and PC games

If it's under $1,000, it'll eat the Steam Machine's lunch and dinner. But if it's more expensive or in as limited supply as the SM, it's a wash. I want this to be good so badly, but modern Xbox has a rep of stealing defeat from the jaws of victory... so fingers crossed.

Gen 10? :wtf:

SiliconSeraphIf it's under $1,000, it'll eat the Steam Machine's lunch and dinner. But if it's more expensive or in as limited supply as the SM, it's a wash. I want this to be good so badly, but modern Xbox has a rep of stealing defeat from the jaws of victory... so fingers crossed.

The Steam Machine has never been, and never will be a console competitor. However, if this Helix thing runs PC games, that could change the landscape.

the thing with xbox is hardware is fine... but it needs 1st party titles.. and quality ones... like from xbox one (third gen) till current xbox x/s there hasnt been any great memorable first party titles.. gears of war series, forza motorsport, halo 3... but like after that and has just been riding on sequels like gears 5, again forza motorsport.

My PC already plays Xbox and PC games.

SiliconSeraphmodern Xbox has a rep of stealing defeat from the jaws of victory

Thank you for great signature quote.

The operating system is starting to look really good.

As has been the case since Xbox One, it's based on Windows and is therefore rubbish. At least as things stand now.
So please stop grinning like that and get lost!

AusWolfGen 10? :wtf:

How many versions and re-releases were there of the Xbox 360 alone?
Yes, it's easy to lose track of things.

Hyderzagain forza motorsport.

You mean Horizon? Because motorsport was already dead before the remake was released.

Regards,
Fred.

Another corrupt indian says what.

@b1k3rdude
Corrupt; source?

I'd be susceptible to bribery for a TPU-designed mug, though. So there seems to be nothing wrong with it.

Regards,
Fred.

SiliconSeraphIf it's under $1,000, it'll eat the Steam Machine's lunch and dinner. But if it's more expensive or in as limited supply as the SM, it's a wash. I want this to be good so badly, but modern Xbox has a rep of stealing defeat from the jaws of victory... so fingers crossed.

Xbox Series X 1 TB already costs $798 at Amazon. In Slovakia (EU) the cheapest offer is 962€ and in most shops It's sold for 1099€.
Project Helix will have higher BOM than Series X unless RAM and storage drops to original prices, so the likelihood of that price is pretty much zero.

Steam Machine already costs $1049 and It's weaker than even Series X, so I don't see a reason why Project Helix should cost less than SM.
I can agree that If It's limited to only Xbox games It wouldn't be worth It, but If they will allow PC gaming then that changes everything.
Although I can't imagine they would allow Steam, GOG or Epic to be installed on It. and jeopardize their own digital sales.

People care about owning their games and being able to play them anywhere, anytime, on any device they have. So if I purchase a game on the Microsoft Store, I want to be able to play it on my console, on my PC and even on my phone if I want to. Some people want to play with a gamepad, some want to play with mouse and keyboard, some even want the VR experience. I guess Microsoft wants to build a functional ecosystem like the one Valve made with the Steam Deck + Machine + Frame. Or maybe they'll go with the Nintendo Switch method of having a portable console with a deck with hdmi output on TV. We'll see.

btw: last MS console I owned was a XB360, the model that would break inevitably after some use, so I don't really care about the XBox brand since I play 99% of the time on PC. It would be wise to make a normal X86 PC with Windows "made for Gaming" or something similar to SteamOS.

Knowing Microsoft, they'll make a low power, low performance console focused only on playing games via Cloud and streaming, everything blocked with encryption and whatnot.

lexluthermiesterDid anyone else raise an eyebrow of suspicion to this?

sounds like the Switch but xbox version, docking system for tv play and portable pop out handheld? i dunno lol

Space Lynxsounds like the Switch but xbox version, docking system for tv play and portable pop out handheld? i dunno lol

Can't beat'em, copy'em.

lexluthermiesterDid anyone else raise an eyebrow of suspicion to this?

Why you don't trust the AI lady?

Space Lynxsounds like the Switch but xbox version, docking system for tv play and portable pop out handheld? i dunno lol

Nope, microsoft will never opt for local streaming. This will be all about cloud.

Space Lynxsounds like the Switch but xbox version, docking system for tv play and portable pop out handheld? i dunno lol

Naaaah

They will just release a 'family of devices', so business as usual if you include their faltering strategy of 'Xbox will be everywhere and you can play whatever you want'

Asha has used a lot of positive words to describe they haven't got a fucking clue where this is going other than what they've already done before. But the OS is coming along great! Just like their steady improvements to Win 11 eh.

DOA.

Microsoft and Sony still do not show that they understand the core concept of console gaming. Its not about the machine. Its all about the content and its quality and quantity. NOWHERE do we hear 'we need this new hardware because game X/Y. That is all we need to know. This machine exists to make money, not to deliver awesome content. We already have awesome content and they've been very busy rehashing that in various ways, irrespective of what console or PC you play on.

Sony and Nintendo's most successful (and loved) consoles are the ones we played the best games on. Since PS4 / x86, that entire argument is virtually gone, just get a PC. Pay less on subs and games; free online; better gamepads available; plug and play much the same; bigger non-walled marketplace; modding... full backwards and forward compatibility. I mean... how long does the list have to get.

As long as that doesn't change, every new console release is just a nudge further into the abyss of the shittiest possible gaming imaginable. People are dreaming if they think the monetary clusterfuck won't get expanded further into wallet-draining strategies with every new console release - history repeats after all.

ChomiqNope, microsoft will never opt for local streaming. This will be all about cloud.

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FR3D1Corrupt; source?

She held a senior position at faceb0ll0x, one of the most corrupt companies in existence and didn't do a particularly good job while there. Then somehow got the AI platform gig at Micro$lop after that, with absolutely zero background in Ai or ML. Her gamer tag despite only being a month old (at the time of the article that reported it), has gameplay history that doesn't add up, so either a ghost player did the work or the playtime was manufactured. To many inconstancies and thats just those examples.

Vayra86Just get a PC. Pay less on subs and games; free online; better gamepads available; plug and play much the same; bigger non-walled marketplace; modding... full backwards and forward compatibility. I mean... how long does the list have to get.

As long as that doesn't change, every new console release is just a nudge further into the abyss of the shittiest possible gaming imaginable. People are dreaming if they think the monetary clusterfuck won't get expanded further into wallet-draining strategies with every new console release - history repeats after all.

This and this.

ChomiqWhy you don't trust the AI lady?


Nope, microsoft will never opt for local streaming. This will be all about cloud.

Because they want you paying a subrscription to play your games. What has the world become?

I'm gonna laugh SO hard if Xbox somehow takes Playstations crown next gen, as people wail about overpriced game devs finally getting the axe after not producing anything of value for a decade and how the CEO isnt a gamer.

TheinsanegamerNoverpriced game devs finally getting the axe after not producing anything of value for a decade and how the CEO isnt a gamer.

Overpriced game devs? Game devs are about to get displaced by UE5 copy pasted assests and AI slop, just when you think modern game quality couldn't get any worse.
But maybe the CEO should take a pay cut to cover Xbox corporate losses, then again she's mercilessly swinging the axe without a care since she has no clue how the game industry works.

They basically killed iD No more iD Tech engine makes me sad.

ChomiqWhy you don't trust the AI lady?

I presume that's a joke, but just in case you're serious: Hell no.

Let3rBecause they want you paying a subrscription to play your games. What has the world become?

Same shit different day really, companies want customers on subs wherever you look, also in the past. Remember those 'rent a game every x period' subs? You had it for books, too... and you could sub to old tabloid papers bundled on discount... you could basically sub to any kind of entertainment. Video on demand used to be physical but its the same thing, you owned nothing and tried to be happy... there is a reason that was the first thing to die off when the internet became a thing. It wasn't Netflix let me tell you. It was just the highly problematic business model. When the spell wore off, people realized what the F they were doing now that they could use P2P filesharing. Similar things happened with music.

Vayra86Naaaah

They will just release a 'family of devices', so business as usual if you include their faltering strategy of 'Xbox will be everywhere and you can play whatever you want'

Asha has used a lot of positive words to describe they haven't got a fucking clue where this is going other than what they've already done before. But the OS is coming along great! Just like their steady improvements to Win 11 eh.

DOA.

Microsoft and Sony still do not show that they understand the core concept of console gaming. Its not about the machine. Its all about the content and its quality and quantity. NOWHERE do we hear 'we need this new hardware because game X/Y. That is all we need to know. This machine exists to make money, not to deliver awesome content. We already have awesome content and they've been very busy rehashing that in various ways, irrespective of what console or PC you play on.

Sony and Nintendo's most successful (and loved) consoles are the ones we played the best games on. Since PS4 / x86, that entire argument is virtually gone, just get a PC. Pay less on subs and games; free online; better gamepads available; plug and play much the same; bigger non-walled marketplace; modding... full backwards and forward compatibility. I mean... how long does the list have to get.

As long as that doesn't change, every new console release is just a nudge further into the abyss of the shittiest possible gaming imaginable. People are dreaming if they think the monetary clusterfuck won't get expanded further into wallet-draining strategies with every new console release - history repeats after all.


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I think there is potential for a cloud gaming only handheld (no internal cpu/gpu) to do well, my latency on fiber optic internet is 5ms, even when playing WoW, which is servers almost half the country away from me. It's insane how good latency has become for a lot of people.

I do think there is potential in the future for a cloud only handheld device, and that would fit their xbox subscription model, well they would need to change the model. No download tier, a cloud only model. I know it didn't work out for others who tried it, but Xbox has a much bigger library they could put on Cloud.

Not saying I'd buy one, I wouldn't, but I think it has chance of selling well among younger crowd who is living more minimalist lifestyle.

Space LynxI think there is potential for a cloud gaming only handheld (no internal cpu/gpu) to do well, my latency on fiber optic internet is 5ms, even when playing WoW, which is servers almost half the country away from me. It's insane how good latency has become for a lot of people.

Good grief no!

Space LynxI think there is potential for a cloud gaming only handheld (no internal cpu/gpu) to do well, my latency on fiber optic internet is 5ms, even when playing WoW, which is servers almost half the country away from me. It's insane how good latency has become for a lot of people.

I do think there is potential in the future for a cloud only handheld device, and that would fit their xbox subscription model, well they would need to change the model. No download tier, a cloud only model. I know it didn't work out for others who tried it, but Xbox has a much bigger library they could put on Cloud.

Not saying I'd buy one, I wouldn't, but I think it has chance of selling well among younger crowd who is living more minimalist lifestyle.

Do you hear yourself though :D

A cloud based only device that plays only the games behind the paywall.
So, first, you pay to have a personal gaming device.
Then, you pay to sub said devices' services.
And then you still own nothing.

And this is minimalist to you? I've got a minimalist firethrower here, if you want to just burn money with zero benefits. And when I'm done, I'll take my mobile phone, that I already have, out of my pocket and fire up a game. Doesn't have to be a powerful device. Just needs to log in to cloud...

I think though if you pitch this idea at Microsoft, Asha will personally thank you and hire you, instantly!