Wednesday, October 28th 2026

Intel's Lip-Bu Tan Discusses Possible AMD Cooperation, Lays Out CPU and Foundry Plans

Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan has spoken with AMD CEO Lisa Su about exploring potential areas of cooperation. Tan brought it up during an October 24 fireside chat with Jimmy Cheng, president of the Chinese American Semiconductor Professional Association (CASPA), though he didn't say what those areas are, and neither company has announced anything. AMD was earlier reported to be evaluating Intel's 14A node, so foundry work seems like an obvious guess. However, it could just as well be packaging, software, or something else entirely.

Most of the chat was about Intel's own turnaround. Tan reportedly said Intel has to "reclaim the leadership in CPU" and that it will now tailor chips like Xeon to customer needs, something he admitted the company was too proud to do before. He named ASICs, co-packaged optics, physical AI and advanced packaging as possible growth areas, and wants two or three of them to eventually bring in around 10% of Intel's revenue each. On the foundry side, 18A is in volume production, while 14A has its 0.5 PDK out, with 0.9 next and 1.0 for volume production early next year. Intel had targeted October for handing the 0.9 PDK to outside customers, and Tan's "stay tuned" suggests it hasn't happened just yet.
The two x86 rivals already cooperate in several areas. Last week, AMD agreed to fold its ZenDNN optimizations into Intel's oneDNN library for PyTorch, and AMD has also been named among companies reportedly weighing Intel Foundry deals. Intel reports Q3 2026 results on October 29, and Tan may well be asked about AMD on the earnings call that follows.

Sources: Chat with Jimmy Cheng, via Tom's Hardware
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19 Comments on Intel's Lip-Bu Tan Discusses Possible AMD Cooperation, Lays Out CPU and Foundry Plans

#1
ZoneDymo
yes, no more peski competition
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#2
GeoffreyA
Lip-Bu Tan: "As you know, we've secured our Ryzen manufacturing contract. When management gives the green light, implement Operation Slow Ryzen at the fab." :)
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#3
kazuviking
AMD want cheap wafer prices, intel wants long term foundry customers and the third is political.
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#4
PSYCHOPATHiO
ZoneDymoyes, no more peski competition
since AMD came back with the Ryzen series, intel shifted its stupid 4 core 8 thread market and started making better CPUs. Competition is always welcome in all fields, but I'll always be an AMD fan,
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#5
Hecate91
AMD handing over their designs to Intel, sounds like a way for Intel to regain a near monopoly again. Competition is needed, but this seems like a way to eliminate any competition.
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#6
kazuviking
Hecate91AMD handing over their designs to Intel, sounds like a way for Intel to regain a near monopoly again. Competition is needed, but this seems like a way to eliminate any competition.
You could say the same thing about TSMC handling every single major company.
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#7
Athena
kazuvikingYou could say the same thing about TSMC handling every single major company.
This is what I was going to say, there is only one company that has the tech & IP for pretty much all companies, so, they are such a huge target for spies to steal tech

It's not like Intel could just copy AMD's tech, sure, the foundry would have access (if AMD went with Intel), but the CPU group wouldn't be able to see anything at all
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#8
RejZoR
kazuvikingYou could say the same thing about TSMC handling every single major company.
Only difference is that TSMC is not in business of making CPUs. Intel is.
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#9
AntiX3DGlazer
PSYCHOPATHiOI'll always be an AMD fan,
Fandom of for-profit entities is dumb.
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#10
cicaki
Hecate91AMD handing over their designs to Intel, sounds like a way for Intel to regain a near monopoly again. Competition is needed, but this seems like a way to eliminate any competition.
u dont give design to fab u give mask only
and mask can mean anything how they look like
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#11
Hecate91
kazuvikingYou could say the same thing about TSMC handling every single major company.
TSMC doesn't make CPUs, and wouldn't have any interest in getting their competitors secrets.
Intel on the other hand I could understand why they'd want to know how AMD uses SMT, or stacked 3D cache.
AthenaThis is what I was going to say, there is only one company that has the tech & IP for pretty much all companies, so, they are such a huge target for spies to steal tech

It's not like Intel could just copy AMD's tech, sure, the foundry would have access (if AMD went with Intel), but the CPU group wouldn't be able to see anything at all
Intel is the only company that holds a majority of patents for X86. The foundry group may have no use for AMD's tech, but they're technically still Intel, with no doubt those secrets could get passed around.
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#12
RandallFlagg
Silly thread.

If you want to know everything about a CPU for a company like Intel it's just like a car engine. Buy one and tear it down.

Modern CPU design is well understood and the designs are mostly the result of a set of requirements that prioritize one thing over another. The thing that hurt Intel in the past is that it didn't have TSMCs fabs, so even if it designed a better CPU it couldn't build it.

"“So, computer design is almost all engineering, and reduction of practice of known methods.”"
-Jim Keller
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#13
Steevo
RandallFlaggSilly thread.

If you want to know everything about a CPU for a company like Intel it's just like a car engine. Buy one and tear it down.

Modern CPU design is well understood and the designs are mostly the result of a set of requirements that prioritize one thing over another. The thing that hurt Intel in the past is that it didn't have TSMCs fabs, so even if it designed a better CPU it couldn't build it.

"“So, computer design is almost all engineering, and reduction of practice of known methods.”"
-Jim Keller
The ability to "map out" a CPU on the current nodes and processes is a fools errand, there are far too many transistors that are to physically small and in 3 dimensions.

Plus AMD and Intel are leveraging the same designs with tradeoffs in pipeline performance and clock speed. The biggest driver now is prefetch and prediction modeling, cache size and latency.
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#14
RandallFlagg
SteevoThe ability to "map out" a CPU on the current nodes and processes is a fools errand, there are far too many transistors that are to physically small and in 3 dimensions.
It's also pointless as there is fundamentally nothing new in CPU architecture for about 20 years with one exception in branch prediction. And that was done at a university, a paper written on it, and then adopted by everyone.
SteevoPlus AMD and Intel are leveraging the same designs with tradeoffs in pipeline performance and clock speed. The biggest driver now is prefetch and prediction modeling, cache size and latency.
CPU design differences are a result of requirements an architect puts into a high level design, so Design A is better at this type of operation than Design B because the requirements say to make some operation or the other faster based on what someone thinks software and users will demand 5 years in the future - and what tools (nodes) they will have to deliver that.

Tiles for example are not part of the architecture of the Zen core.

i.e. Zen 3 cores exist as both 'chiplet' designs on desktop and servers, and 'monolithic' ones in laptops (Cezanne). The existence of the tile or the packaging doesn't really change the CPUs core architecture. i.e. Cezanne is still Zen 3

That said the packaging and the node is what is giving us faster CPUs. More density, greater power efficiency, faster transistor switching, layered designs = more options for the core design. This is all determined by advancements in TSMCs Fabs or Intel's Fabs, not by AMD (or Intel's CPU design team).

It's actually a very tricky business they are in, trying to predict the future.
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#15
rattlehead99
Sounds like a monopoly forming.
Also I wonder if intel could reverse engineer AMD's designs and implement their strengths into their own products.
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#16
Random_User
"Everyone is so friendly! Everyone loves each other! Even if they are competitors! It doesn't matter!"
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#17
Tek-Check
Hecate91AMD handing over their designs to Intel, sounds like a way for Intel to regain a near monopoly again. Competition is needed, but this seems like a way to eliminate any competition.
I am sure AMD would not hand over to Intel most advanced chiplets for etching. That's what TSMC is for.
They might offer them to produce lower tier chips, ASICs, IO chilpet or similar.
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#18
TechLurker
I could see possible joint efforts in the GPU/accelerator space; neither of them are able to blunt NVIDIA's dominance. Having Intel and AMD jointly develop a new ZLUDA-like translation layer could help push back against some of that dominance, as well as just jointly developing a better GPU for the gaming side of things.
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#19
BillyRazOr
PSYCHOPATHiObut I'll always be an AMD fan
Being fan isn't a good way, bro.
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