Tuesday, December 5th 2017
AMD Officially but Silently Downgrades Radeon RX 560 with an 896 SP Variant
The phenomenon of Radeon RX 560 graphics cards with 896 stream processors is more widespread than earlier thought. It looks like RX 560 cards with 896 stream processors will be more widely available than the previously thought Greater China region; with AMD silently editing the specifications of the SKU to have either 896 or 1,024 stream processors, as opposed to the 1,024 it originally launched with. There are no clear labeling guidelines or SKU names to distinguish cards with 896 stream processors from those with 1,024.
The Radeon RX 560 and the previous-generation RX 460 are based on the 14 nm "Polaris 11" silicon, which physically features 16 GCN compute units (CUs), each packed with 64 stream processors. The RX 560 originally maxed this silicon out, with all 16 CUs being enabled, while the RX 460 has two CUs locked. The decision to change specs of the RX 560 effectively makes it a re-brand of the RX 460, which is slower, and provides fertile grounds for bait-and-switch lawsuits.
Source:
Heise.de
The Radeon RX 560 and the previous-generation RX 460 are based on the 14 nm "Polaris 11" silicon, which physically features 16 GCN compute units (CUs), each packed with 64 stream processors. The RX 560 originally maxed this silicon out, with all 16 CUs being enabled, while the RX 460 has two CUs locked. The decision to change specs of the RX 560 effectively makes it a re-brand of the RX 460, which is slower, and provides fertile grounds for bait-and-switch lawsuits.
129 Comments on AMD Officially but Silently Downgrades Radeon RX 560 with an 896 SP Variant
AIBs aside, how can one tell the difference between a 560 and a 560D reference card? At least ASUS had EVO (which, was not clear, lol!). I mean, I would be pissed if I walked in to a car dealership, asked for a Mustang GT, and ended up with a turbocharged 6 cyl instead of the 5.0 liter which it is supposed to come with.
Again, the AIBs are not saints, but does that make AMD NOT a sinner in this case? Hardly.
EDIT: Side note.. when you have the time and if you have the inclination, can you PM me whatever you were on about RE: GTX 1060's? I never heard of that before and my googlefoo is failing me. :)
And WOW, damous just keep on defending AMD. Man i am impressed! That is the finest example of a diehard AMD fanboy. :D
Remember, the first thing we heard of the RX560 (and the reason it existed) was 'the improved process', while in fact AMD just pulled a Kaby Lake and bumped the base clocks a little, with power draw to match.
There's a pattern here of self destructive behavior, and remarkably its only the GPU division that repeatedly manages to screw up.
the nVidia situation played out here on TPU exactly the same as this AMD situation---no pass given--- with people basically making the exact same comments and suggestions on naming. Or perhaps you were referring to other websites....
To help your "memory" :)
www.techpowerup.com/225017/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-equipped-with-fewer-cuda-cores#comments
Nah man, trust me, Nvidia get it hard when they do anything like this.
EDIT: FWIW, if anything, Nvidia are generally touted as the far shadier company. Years of TPU have shown this and when they step outta line there is a fervour of abuse from team red and of course, defence from team green.
Fact is - both companies do things we techy people think are a bit 'misleading'.
But I know you never really read what I say and just disagree with me on the spot:p.
Kidding , but it sure lools like that sometimes.
EDIT: Maybe it was someone I have on ignore?
Because........
Also is that you Domus, Lajos Nemeth?
Maybe I have to make it even more obvious: @xkm1948 Don't try to bait me with your troll posts mate because it ain't working. Don't you have another FUD inducing thread to start again or something ?
Sorry, looks like you did an about face later in the thread... That is a far cry from 'both', IMO. In that post, it felt you absolved them of any wrong doing and blamed the AIBs.
Again, apologies if I got those two signals crossed...hopefully you are able to understand why.
EDIT: Also not both... Anyway, who gives a rats ass. At this point we are not discussing the merits, but having a personal back and forth... so, on that note, I digress.
www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2990/radeon-rx-560d
Dataland is powercolor
Maxsun is huge by the way...
Edit: you didnt look at the link HIS BIG, XFX BIG for AMD ASUS BIG
So, this is interesting....
Again, AMD doesn't mention the change, and the specs clearly do not discern between models. I can see why the AIB's ran with it as AMD wasn't clear. While it isn't their job to police them, providing clear whitepapers/specs IS their responsibility and something we clearly do not have. AMD calls is a 560 on their website. A simple edit and correction would be awesome for those looking. :)
Who the hell is Maxsun? What country are they huge in?
MSI too
give it a break you are wrong
its a 560D :)
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