Wednesday, July 4th 2018

AMD Beats NVIDIA's Performance in the Battlefield V Closed Alpha

A report via PCGamesN points to some... interesting performance positioning when it comes to NVIDIA and AMD offerings. Battlefield V is being developed by DICE in collaboration with NVIDIA, but it seems there's some sand in the gears of performance improvements as of now. I say this because according to the report, AMD's RX 580 8 GB graphics card (the only red GPU to be tested) bests NVIDIA's GTX 1060 6GB... by quite a considerable margin at that.

The performance difference across both 1080p and 1440p scenarios (with Ultra settings) ranges in the 30% mark, and as has been usually the case, AMD's offerings are bettering NVIDIA's when a change of render - to DX12 - is made - AMD's cards teeter between consistency or worsening performance under DX 12, but NVIDIA's GTX 1060 consistently delivers worse performance levels. Perhaps we're witnessing some bits of AMD's old collaboration efforts with DICE? Still, It's too early to cry wolf right now - performance will only likely improve between now and the October 19th release date.
Source: PCGamesN
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219 Comments on AMD Beats NVIDIA's Performance in the Battlefield V Closed Alpha

#1
Boosnie
What's the fuss? They will add tassellation.
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#2
Vya Domus
TheinsanegamerN said:

GPU shipments /= gaming market share. Yes, AMD is selling more cards, but cryptomining made up a huge number of their shipments. If that market falters, like it is starting to do, AMD would be in trouble.
Same old mantra.

Come on dude get real Nvidia stocks have been decimated by miners just as much. If you feel like those numbers are skewing AMD's market share then the same is true for Nvidia as well. Otherwise if you think that all of that 65.1% market share was driven purely by sales to gamers you are being delusional.

To your absolute horror AMD will be around for quite a while even if the crypto market falls flat. Hey, if you were to look back in history you'd realize it happened before and guess what they are still around and with increasing sales and market share. How about that.
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#3
Tsukiyomi91
a handful of "AMD optimized" games only yield 5-6fps gain for an RX580 8GB over a mid range Pascal card (GTX1060 6GB) is kinda laughable.

I wanna see how terrible is the time-frame between those 2 GPUs & see which one has better overall latency.
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#5
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Yeah, those games MuhammedAbdo posted are the ones that 1060 6 GiB has a fairly significant lead in at 1920x1080. At 3840x2160, that lead evaporates to tenths of an fps or RX 580 even gets ahead.
Origins: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASRock/RX_580_Phantom_Gaming_X/7.html
GTAV: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASRock/RX_580_Phantom_Gaming_X/17.html

It's the aggregate that matters because most people play a variety of games.

RX 580 and GTX 1060 are both midrange cards. Performance per dollar, RX 580 actually beats all cards except the 3 GB version of GTX 1060. That said, 3 GB isn't enough in a growing number of games.
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#6
Th3pwn3r
Best click bait I've seen in a while. What a title. Instead of RX580 beats 1060, AMD beats Nvidia, good job showing bias and trying to start a war haha.
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#7
las
I'd rather see high-end GPU performance, these are 1080p cards
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#8
INSTG8R
las said:
I'd rather see high-end GPU performance, these are 1080p cards
Well mainstream results are really a better thing to see. That’s the majority of the market. Do I wanna see how my Vega does? Sure but 1080p/midrange is the majority.
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#9
ssdpro
Raevenlord said:
"Perhaps we're witnessing some bits of AMD's old collaboration efforts with DICE? Still, It's too early to cry wolf right now - performance will only likely improve between now and the October 19th release date."

That's literally in the article.
Then again, the title of the article is literally "AMD Beats NVIDIA's Performance in the Battle V closed alpha". The title is literally a blanket statement.
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#10
las
INSTG8R said:
Well mainstream results are really a better thing to see. That’s the majority of the market. Do I wanna see how my Vega does? Sure but 1080p/midrange is the majority.
Better for who? Most people that care about Alpha performance and GPU benchmarks probably don't use mid-end

They could have tested Vega 64 and 1080 / 1080 Ti too
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#11
nemesis.ie
Maybe they did, maybe the results were even more in AMD's favour ... Vega is a newer architecture than the RX580s. The 1060 uses the same as the 1070 and 1080/Ti, right?

It would be nice to know for sure.
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#12
londiste
nemesis.ie said:
Maybe they did, maybe the results were even more in AMD's favour ... Vega is a newer architecture than the RX580s. The 1060 uses the same as the 1070 and 1080/Ti, right?

It would be nice to know for sure.
In most comparisons where RX580 does well against GTX1060, Vega performs as usual against GTX1080 - more or less equal.
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#13
Vya Domus
las said:
Most people that care about Alpha performance and GPU benchmarks probably don't use mid-end
Who says that's the case ? You ?
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#14
MuhammedAbdo
FordGT90Concept said:
Yeah, those games MuhammedAbdo posted are the ones that 1060 6 GiB has a fairly significant lead in at 1920x1080. At 3840x2160, that lead evaporates to tenths of an fps or RX 580 even gets ahead.
Who buys these cards at 4K anyway? stop posting crap to justify AMD's underperformance in most famous games.

FordGT90Concept said:
It's the aggregate that matters because most people play a variety of games.
Apparently the aggregate doesn't matter anymore according to this article, AMD fanboys are celebrating an Alpha build victory!

Anyway like Forza 7 and Destiny 2 before that, NVIDIA will release a driver that fixes the fps drop. Nothing to worry about mates.
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#15
INSTG8R
las said:
Better for who? Most people that care about Alpha performance and GPU benchmarks probably don't use mid-end

They could have tested Vega 64 and 1080 / 1080 Ti too
Again we’re a minority with the halo cards and 1440 monitors. We’re the “1%”
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#16
I No
Wow... color me shocked.... a game in alpha leaking some crap benches... how wonderful .... click bait nothing else to see here. Both AMD and nVidia will release drivers when the game hits the stores ...
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#17
Vya Domus
MuhammedAbdo said:

Anyway like Forza 7 and Destiny 2 before that, NVIDIA will release a driver that fixes the fps drop.
Destiny 2 ran significantly better on Nvidia before and after release. Guess it's hard to keep track with those green tinted glasses on all the time. Making up stuff that never happened.

You can spot when a game has been optimized through drivers on Nvidia during development from miles away, Destiny 2 was one of them and oddly enough BF5 isn't.
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#18
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
MuhammedAbdo said:
Who buys these cards at 4K anyway? stop posting crap to justify AMD's underperformance in most famous games.
Which burdens the GPU more? 4K or 1080p? 4K. AMD is not held back by its GPUs, it's held back by it's drivers needing more CPU time to churn out a frame. Remove the CPU time (by going higher resolution, Direct3D 12, or Vulkan) and AMD offers a lot more bang per dollar than NVIDIA does.
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#19
MuhammedAbdo
FordGT90Concept said:
Which burdens the GPU more? 4K or 1080p? 4K. AMD is not held back by its GPUs, it's held back by it's drivers needing more CPU time to churn out a frame. Remove the CPU time (by going higher resolution, Direct3D 12, or Vulkan) and AMD offers a lot more bang per dollar than NVIDIA does.
That's crap, a customer buys a GPU as a whole package, he cares not for drivers or whatever. He cares about final performance, at 4K these cards offer no playable fps whatsoever, people buy them for 1080p alone, if you can't deliver suitable fps at this resolution. then you lose. Which what happened, the GTX 1060 sold several times more the RX 580.
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#20
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Look at the pictures you posted again. Which of those games does the RX 580 run at unacceptable framerates?
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#21
Vya Domus
Seeing people trying to deny the fact that RX 580 overtook the 1060 is hilarious. :laugh:
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#22
MuhammedAbdo
Vya Domus said:
Seeing people trying to deny the fact that the RX 580 overtook the 1060 is hilarious. :laugh:
Yeah in an Alpha build, enjoy your short lived imaginary victory.
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#23
Vya Domus
MuhammedAbdo said:
Yeah in an Alpha build, enjoy your short lived imaginary victory.
You mean this imaginary alpha build victory ?

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#24
I No
Vya Domus said:
You mean this imaginary alpha build victory ?


The horror ....1% difference from a Reference card vs an AIB one.....
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#25
londiste
With that TPU review picture you mean to say that equal cards are equal? :D
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