Sunday, September 30th 2018

New NVFlash Released With Turing Support

With the latest release of NVIDIA's NVFlash, version 5.513.0, users can now read and write the BIOS on Turing based graphics cards. This includes the RTX 2080 Ti, 2080, and 2070. While this may seem mundane at first, due to the different power limits between graphics cards, there is some hope that cross flashing of the BIOS could result in tangible performance gains.

DOWNLOAD: NVIDIA NVFlash v5.513.0

In response to this development, TechPowerUp has released a new test build of GPU-Z, which supports the ability to save the BIOS of Turing based graphics cards. With both of these updates, enthusiasts now have the ability to save their BIOS with GPU-Z and flash a new BIOS on their RTX series cards with NVFlash. It should be noted that saving the BIOS on older NVIDIA graphics cards should still work correctly, however, further testing is necessary due to the number of code changes. To help mitigate any issues, new safety checks have been added as a precaution. Even so, we take no responsibility to any damage done by flashing your graphics cards BIOS. With that said, for users saving the BIOS of older graphics cards please report your findings in the thread below. Your feedback is appreciated.
DOWNLOAD: TechPowerUp GPU-Z Test Build
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20 Comments on New NVFlash Released With Turing Support

#1
the54thvoid
Can I be the first to say:

If you flash your graphics card, you may destroy it. TPU accepts no liability for your actions.

If you flash a $/£1200 gfx card, well, hell, you got deep pockets!
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#2
Captain_Tom
I may actually pay attention to this. Bios flashing yielded immense performance gains on the Fury series of cards.

If it turns out you can finally flash this gen of Nvidia cards, I may look into getting one...
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#3
crazyeyesreaper
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the54thvoid
Can I be the first to say:

If you flash your graphics card, you may destroy it. TPU accepts no liability for your actions.

If you flash a $/£1200 gfx card, well, hell, you got deep pockets!
lol its in the article "Even so, we take no responsibility to any damage done by flashing your graphics cards BIOS "
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#4
the54thvoid
crazyeyesreaper
lol its in the article "Even so, we take no responsibility to any damage done by flashing your graphics cards BIOS "
Oops.

Well, a second warning gives you super dooper cover.
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#5
Tsukiyomi91
needs more friendly messages about flashing a brand new GPU... again; flashing MAY not be successful if not careful. If one managed to brick an RTX20xx card to get "immense gains", ggwp to ya. xD
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#6
phanbuey
It's a little risky, but seeing as there is a massive power limit on these cards, i can see this being popular.
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#7
Nioktefe
Tsukiyomi91
needs more friendly messages about flashing a brand new GPU... again; flashing MAY not be successful if not careful. If one managed to brick an RTX20xx card to get "immense gains", ggwp to ya. xD
You can always plug a dumb graphic card or use the integrated one to flash another bios, it's always been possible and due to that it's not that much of a risk to flash any gpu
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#8
R-T-B
phanbuey
It's a little risky, but seeing as there is a massive power limit on these cards, i can see this being popular.
They are probably signed like Pascal. Almost certainly.
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#9
Captain_Tom
Tsukiyomi91
needs more friendly messages about flashing a brand new GPU... again; flashing MAY not be successful if not careful. If one managed to brick an RTX20xx card to get "immense gains", ggwp to ya. xD
What risk? I have flashed dozens of cards, and never once broke anything. I wouldn't recommend it to complete noobs, but it's not scary.

The lack of a bios switch is the only thing that would make me think twice, although that hasn't stopped me before ;)
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#10
Vipeax
the54thvoid
Can I be the first to say:

If you flash your graphics card, you may destroy it. TPU accepts no liability for your actions.

If you flash a $/£1200 gfx card, well, hell, you got deep pockets!
Flashed it straight away, no issues as usual.
Captain_Tom
What risk? I have flashed dozens of cards, and never once broke anything. I wouldn't recommend it to complete noobs, but it's not scary.

The lack of a bios switch is the only thing that would make me think twice, although that hasn't stopped me before ;)
Lack of a bios switch doesn't matter that much since it has to be in a really bad state for it not be flasheable in another PC or with a second GPU/iGPU.
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#11
Captain_Tom
Vipeax
Lack of a bios switch doesn't matter that much since it has to be in a really bad state for it not be flasheable in another PC or with a second GPU/iGPU.
Hence why I said "it never stopped me before." Also, can you confirm Nvidia isn't enforcing bios signing with Turing cards?
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#12
Smartcom5
the54thvoid
Can I be the first to say:

If you flash your graphics card, you may destroy it. TPU accepts no liability for your actions.

If you flash a $/£1200 gfx card, well, hell, you got deep pockets!
Was about to say the same!
Though I already ran down that rabbit hole a couple of weeks ago …
I said back then; Let's assume some BIOS flash thingy comes out and just wait ‘till a few warning examples have been set (as a few just brick'ed their Non-A card as they tried to flash their Non-A RTX to a Grade-A RTX-card) and then just place let pop up such news about that on prominent places like Reddit & Co – and within days you've scared the shite out of the crowd and finally the horde got it that they either kindly a) have to buy some (ways too overpriced) Grade-A card or b) buy an older last gen card (which, curiously enough, is also vastly overpriced).

In both cases nVidia get dreamlike profits again …
→ You can bet on it that such fitting BIOS images are 'leaked' therewith (and in order that) the crowd just ultimately tries to do so, so that there will be happening such desired effects – which the overwhelming majority of the mass will only fathom a) after it's way too late and b) nVidia already is richer on the margin share.

I said predicted such happenings already about two weeks ago.

We're all just part of a way bigger game this time, let me tell you that.
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#13
Vipeax
Captain_Tom
Hence why I said "it never stopped me before." Also, can you confirm Nvidia isn't enforcing bios signing with Turing cards?
I created a tool to substract the BIOS files from the RTX series flash executables (see drive.google.com/drive/folders/10VgqTD1N5l81-0ZiUXQ2YcPPllRcBM3t for my collection so far, the tool is in there as well) and just flashed an EVGA one on my card that uses a reference PCB. Had to supply the -6 command to NVFlash and then press 'Y' twice during the black screen.
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#14
R-T-B
Captain_Tom
Hence why I said "it never stopped me before." Also, can you confirm Nvidia isn't enforcing bios signing with Turing cards?
I'm curious about this as well. What precisely did he flash it with?

EDIT: I'm dumb, just saw the post above me. Yeah crossflashing works, but is amongst the most dangerous flashes you can do if you don't know the board differences. Still, most likely nothing will happen, but caveat emptor and all.
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#15
Vipeax
R-T-B
I'm curious about this as well. What precisely did he flash it with?

EDIT: I'm dumb, just saw the post above me. Yeah crossflashing works, but is amongst the most dangerous flashes you can do if you don't know the board differences.
They're all reference PCBs.
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#16
R-T-B
Vipeax
They're all reference PCBs.
I was speaking for the future. But good point all the same, at this time there is probably little danger.
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#17
Captain_Tom
Vipeax
They're all reference PCBs.
Ehh ok so you haven't modified any of the bios files? That's what I would want to do. I loved how my Fury just always had a 15% overclock that was 100% stable. Never had to mess with any overclocking programs once I found a stable set of adjustments.
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#18
Vipeax
Captain_Tom
Ehh ok so you haven't modified any of the bios files? Never had to mess with any overclocking programs once I found a stable set of adjustments.
Sorry, I haven't. I hear what you're saying in regards to modifying the BIOS, but that wasn't what I was trying to accomplish.
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#19
R-T-B
Vipeax
Sorry, I haven't. I hear what you're saying in regards to modifying the BIOS, but that wasn't what I was trying to accomplish.
Yeah, unfortunately the signing process likely eliminates our ability to mod the bios. I bet even the hardware flasher trick is completely dead, as they seemed to figure it out late-pascal.
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#20
OrionIndigo
Vipeax
Flashed it straight away, no issues as usual.


Lack of a bios switch doesn't matter that much since it has to be in a really bad state for it not be flasheable in another PC or with a second GPU/iGPU.
Hi, can you can provide me full commands for nvflash to flash RTX 2080Ti with this 380W bios?
Because i get "nvflash firmware image pci does not match adapter pci subsystem id" precislily I use nvflash64 -6 (rom name)

Thanks a lot!
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