Thursday, May 9th 2019
AMD Ryzen 9 3000 is a 16-core Socket AM4 Beast
AMD is giving finishing touches to its 3rd generation Ryzen socket AM4 processor family which is slated for a Computex 2019 unveiling, followed by a possible E3 market availability. Based on the "Matisse" multi-chip module that combines up to two 8-core "Zen 2" chiplets with a 14 nm I/O controller die, these processors see a 50-100 percent increase in core-counts over the current generation. The Ryzen 5 series now includes 8-core/16-thread parts, the Ryzen 7 series chips are 12-core/24-thread, while the newly created Ryzen 9 series (designed to rival Intel Core i9 LGA115x), will include 16-core/32-thread chips.
Thai PC enthusiast TUM_APISAK confirmed the existence of the Ryzen 9 series having landed himself with an engineering sample of the 16-core/32-thread chip that ticks at 3.30 GHz with 4.30 GHz Precision Boost frequency. The infamous Adored TV leaks that drew the skeleton of AMD's 3rd generation Ryzen roadmap, referenced two desktop Ryzen 9 parts, the Ryzen 9 3800X and Ryzen 9 3850X. The 3800X is supposed to be clocked at 3.90 GHz with 4.70 GHz boost, with a TDP rating of 125W, while the 3850X tops the charts at 4.30 GHz base and a staggering 5.10 GHz boost. The rated TDP has shot up to 135W. We can now imagine why some motherboard vendors are selective with BIOS updates on some of their lower-end boards. AMD is probably maximizing the clock-speed headroom of these chips out of the box, to preempt Intel's "Comet Lake" 10-core/20-thread processor.
Sources:
TUM_Apisak, Tom's Hardware
Thai PC enthusiast TUM_APISAK confirmed the existence of the Ryzen 9 series having landed himself with an engineering sample of the 16-core/32-thread chip that ticks at 3.30 GHz with 4.30 GHz Precision Boost frequency. The infamous Adored TV leaks that drew the skeleton of AMD's 3rd generation Ryzen roadmap, referenced two desktop Ryzen 9 parts, the Ryzen 9 3800X and Ryzen 9 3850X. The 3800X is supposed to be clocked at 3.90 GHz with 4.70 GHz boost, with a TDP rating of 125W, while the 3850X tops the charts at 4.30 GHz base and a staggering 5.10 GHz boost. The rated TDP has shot up to 135W. We can now imagine why some motherboard vendors are selective with BIOS updates on some of their lower-end boards. AMD is probably maximizing the clock-speed headroom of these chips out of the box, to preempt Intel's "Comet Lake" 10-core/20-thread processor.
197 Comments on AMD Ryzen 9 3000 is a 16-core Socket AM4 Beast
these allegationsthis information :toast:If you read this article, it appears it is confirmed...:(
If you read the Tom's article, this is still a rumor (and worded properly for the evidence we have - maybe bt knows something we don't... but I wouldn't have wrote it in such a factual manner).
Secondly we do not know anything about the ES, no details as far as whether the clocks are final and which model they are associated with.
Lastly we don't actually know what the capabilities of 7nm silicon is in CPUs. Based on the difference between 14nm and 7nm Vega, I personally think it is reasonable to expect the maximum capable clocks to be higher, but again we don't know what the power will be like so we can't really know what kind of clocks to expect in the "out of box" TDP range.
AMD's likely fine-tuning clocks as they did with the original Zen. If the max 1c clocks reach 4.8~5Ghz then you can bet they'll try & get the base clocks pretty high as well.
There's a typo, should be Intel's Comet Lake, Cannon Lake would never reach 10 cores hehe.
I will wait and see the IPC, since this is what matters to games, no game uses more than 8 threads anyway, so 12 and 16 cores are useless for most gamers.
It's like the past didn't exist , if Amd processors regularly hit 100° :);) never mind Fx's high of 90 they would be roasted in forums, yet massive power and heat are ok for team blue.
Anyway Roll on R9 day, i just hope I can afford one, think of the crunching, I would be up 20 more cores ,at the same or higher speed , for 40-60 Watts more, win.
RE: Heat, again, its the arch of BD that doesn't support high temps. What does it really matter though? If it can support the temps and live a long life, it can. It doesn't matter if it tops out at 70C or 100C. There are several other factors which influence the temperature readings. I am not saying they are unrelated, but they are not tied at the hip.
Nobody likes the increased power consumption, but, let's be clear here, heat and temperature are two different things. For example, which has the higher temperature... a lighter with a yellow flame or a bonfire with yellow flames? The answer.......they are the same temperature, but cleary a bonfire has more energy behind the temperature. I mean I have seen 5W ASICs on mining rigs burn my finger...
Otherwise we'd still have 4 core CPUs at $500+ just incredible.
even "just" 4,3Ghz Ryzen 3000 will EASILY beat i9. Every task. Every game. Every price.
All hail the new king.
But me and Eidairman know. We took some stick on fx for heat and power, now it's intels turn it's ok, that's what I meant:).
As for 5ghz it's becoming less relevant and wasn't really that important to me ,a 60 hz ish gamer.
Oh and don't be foolish , the Ip in Bd at least some of it went into Ryzen, i find it all ironic tbh.
While surely there was some influence there (BD to Ryzen), the point I was trying to make had everything to do with heat and temperatures as the difference there as to what each CPU can handle is quite different. Nobody is concerned with that because the arch can NOW handle higher temps. :)I predict a useless post is useless. :pDoes it? Are there other reviews showing different than this one?
www.techspot.com/article/1616-4ghz-ryzen-2nd-gen-vs-core-8th-gen/page3.html
Compare apples to apples (6c/12t) and look at the 1600X at 4 GHz versus the 8700K at 4 GHz....
now... their SMT IS more efficient than Intel and in heavily threaded benchmarks which use smt. IPC measurements are typically single threaded, and smt/ht cant be involved, otherwise its a multi-threaded benchmark which shows the difference between HT and SMT.