Thursday, May 9th 2019
AMD Ryzen 9 3000 is a 16-core Socket AM4 Beast
AMD is giving finishing touches to its 3rd generation Ryzen socket AM4 processor family which is slated for a Computex 2019 unveiling, followed by a possible E3 market availability. Based on the "Matisse" multi-chip module that combines up to two 8-core "Zen 2" chiplets with a 14 nm I/O controller die, these processors see a 50-100 percent increase in core-counts over the current generation. The Ryzen 5 series now includes 8-core/16-thread parts, the Ryzen 7 series chips are 12-core/24-thread, while the newly created Ryzen 9 series (designed to rival Intel Core i9 LGA115x), will include 16-core/32-thread chips.
Thai PC enthusiast TUM_APISAK confirmed the existence of the Ryzen 9 series having landed himself with an engineering sample of the 16-core/32-thread chip that ticks at 3.30 GHz with 4.30 GHz Precision Boost frequency. The infamous Adored TV leaks that drew the skeleton of AMD's 3rd generation Ryzen roadmap, referenced two desktop Ryzen 9 parts, the Ryzen 9 3800X and Ryzen 9 3850X. The 3800X is supposed to be clocked at 3.90 GHz with 4.70 GHz boost, with a TDP rating of 125W, while the 3850X tops the charts at 4.30 GHz base and a staggering 5.10 GHz boost. The rated TDP has shot up to 135W. We can now imagine why some motherboard vendors are selective with BIOS updates on some of their lower-end boards. AMD is probably maximizing the clock-speed headroom of these chips out of the box, to preempt Intel's "Comet Lake" 10-core/20-thread processor.
Sources:
TUM_Apisak, Tom's Hardware
Thai PC enthusiast TUM_APISAK confirmed the existence of the Ryzen 9 series having landed himself with an engineering sample of the 16-core/32-thread chip that ticks at 3.30 GHz with 4.30 GHz Precision Boost frequency. The infamous Adored TV leaks that drew the skeleton of AMD's 3rd generation Ryzen roadmap, referenced two desktop Ryzen 9 parts, the Ryzen 9 3800X and Ryzen 9 3850X. The 3800X is supposed to be clocked at 3.90 GHz with 4.70 GHz boost, with a TDP rating of 125W, while the 3850X tops the charts at 4.30 GHz base and a staggering 5.10 GHz boost. The rated TDP has shot up to 135W. We can now imagine why some motherboard vendors are selective with BIOS updates on some of their lower-end boards. AMD is probably maximizing the clock-speed headroom of these chips out of the box, to preempt Intel's "Comet Lake" 10-core/20-thread processor.
197 Comments on AMD Ryzen 9 3000 is a 16-core Socket AM4 Beast
For the record. We are not supposed to know the price before the release but AMD company(others as well) has the price point set and their goals way before the release. It's called planning. Maybe this is something you are not familiar with in the company you work for or your own business but I'm certain AMD has it all planned and calculated.
What I think about the rumors is they may or may not be accurate totally but there is some truth and from our, customer stand point, is either to wait for the release or look for facts and prove or disprove the rumor by talking about it and point out, by arguments, if this is possible or not. I think AMD and Intel release these rumors themselves for a reason. This leaks make the other company compare to it's own products and mobilize for what's coming, intimidate the opponent even and make him move forward or even scare the crap outta it. Rumors are a good thing giving you a glimpse of what's coming out and if you get involved in this "thinking and measuring facts with others" you may postpone your PC purchase/upgrade now (if you need one) to see later if it was worth to wait. if you're waiting for new built/upgrade you can plan collecting some cash for this. Weather you believe the leaks or rumors it's on you.
I think it might be true but the truth will be revealed when the zen2 is released.
For that thing he mentioned leak from insider.
His "io die" info was spot on:
Now, it's all well saying 'but it was just speculation' and 'some of it is subject to change' but that doesn't pass muster, frankly. The USP in that video is based on these very details that you guys say are subject to change. He listed every Ryzen 3000 SKU with exact base/boost clocks and prices, not even ranges. Now he's being called out on his figures, it's too late now to say 'but I may have been off'. He didn't mind profiting from the fervent excitement created from throwing around the 5ghz/5Ghz+ numbers back in December.
He has profited from the above hype video leak extravaganza no end by more subscribers, Patreons and clicks on his videos. People are paying this guy money on the basis he has insider info and knows what he is talking about. So ethically, there must be repercussions if he's lead everyone down the garden path regarding info that he posted online, which appears the case here. Because he is a 'video leaker' and 'tech Youtuber', it should not mean he can escape ethics and standards that a tech journo would be held to.
The tech journo is dead, I should know, I used to be one, so there's no longer any standards to hold anyone to.
I agree on repercussions, but not for being wrong at times, but for outright making up shit and claiming it's insider info. (this is hard to prove though)
He did come with very unusual info that is not something that could have done out of speculations, so should have actual links.
If it's the more cores increasing the chance of one of them being higher frequency, does that also not apply to the low end - in that more cores increases the likelihood that one of them is a dog and can't clock very high at all?
If AMD can offer similar performance or close for ~350€, I gladly buy one.
But, we'll see, it's not that I extremely need it, I'm still quite happy with the 5820K, which has been with me since 2014.
To me it looks like you only watch the tables and don't care what he actually says in those videos.
Obviously this also means that by using this process of elimination, there's a bigger chance that an i7 is going to win the silicon lottery over an i5 and be that one chip in a thousand that can overclock like crazy. However, that doesn't mean Intel can sell that as a 6GHz chip, as they'd only get a dozen of those a month, so it doesn't make financial sense to stretch too far either. But as these chips are the very best of the wafer, they end up also being the ones that are clocked the highest. Obviously, if there's a flaw in one of the centre parts, say the cache doesn't fully work, then that ends up as an i5 for example and that might still be that one in a thousand chip that can hit 6GHz+ and the person who buys that got really lucky.
Does this make sense?
I think you forget something, the plan was to launch Ryzen 3000 much earlier in the year, maybe not January, but February/March. The delay is largely down to the motherboards with the X570 chipset not being ready and in fact, they're still being tuned and will be tuned until the last minute.
So yes, I do believe AMD had everything figured out at that point in time already, but had to push things back. There might be more to it than the motherboards, but it did have a huge contributing factor as to why the platform is only launching at Computex. I guess you don't really work in the industry, so you wouldn't know the first or the last things about this, but instead, you hang out on forums and spreading FUD about something you know very little about.
As to why this info was sent to Jim, I don't know. Maybe someone likes him and thought he should be in know? Kind of like when you get a free donut at dunkin' for being a regular customer.
I know a lot of things I'm not at liberty to share here, but let's just say that once Ryzen 3000 launches, a lot of people are going to have to eat their own words. That said, I'm by no means saying everything AdoredTV puts in his videos will be exactly as he says, as I have no control over his content. Oh, and I expect a personal apology from you then too.
Also, it's your, not you're (that's short for you are).
I see people that dismiss this as a rumor and people that take this for granted because it hasn't been disproved.
The claimed specs themselves are a tad above what you'd expect and a little counterintuitive in part. But that by itself doesn't make them true or false.
His videos, on top of being free, are at around 50k-ish views typically, I doubt one could get non-negligable income from that.