Monday, May 20th 2019

MSI X570 MPG Motherboards Leaked: Gaming Pro Carbon, Gaming Plus

The folks over at Videocardz have treated us to a leak on MSI's upcoming X570 motherboards. The company's mid-tier MPG motherboards usually include the likes of the Gaming Carbon and Gaming Plus motherboards, and this round of motherboard development is no different. Both motherboards join leaked designs from other brands that showed active cooling being mounted on top of the chipset, a throwback to another era.

The leaked Gaming Plus is the lower-tier of the two leaked solutions of today, cutting on reinforcements on some expansion ports (such as the PCIe 16x slot). The Gaming Pro Carbon features a fancier design (with RGB lighting); the chipset hroud also serves as cooling for M.2 slots you can populate underneath (or so it seems). The Gaming Pro Carbon has more attention to detail on the placement of connectors such as SATA, and seems to have a slight advantage on the overall motherboard power delivery circuits, but these are just being eyeballed. One thing we can see is that while the Gaming Pro Carbon features MSI's Audio Boost feature, the Gaming Plus doesn't. Expect more details to be available closer to launch.
Source: Videocardz
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23 Comments on MSI X570 MPG Motherboards Leaked: Gaming Pro Carbon, Gaming Plus

#1
HD64G
The fins next to the fan are fixed to send air towards the 1st PCI-E. Should have something to do with PCI-E 4.0 as some have already suggested. The chipset by itself could have been passively cooled since the old now 990FX was consuming more than that for sure and had just passive heatsinks.
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#2
PerfectWave
old news really
to me seems for cooling m2 ssd
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#4
ZoneDymo
just get it to stores already so I can finally upgrade jeez
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#5
IceShroom
Disappointing motherboard by MSI. No Type-C frontpanel header in 2019. Specially when chipset has native USB 3.1 support.
It is showing MSI attatude towords AMD, as their Z390 Carbon has Type-C frontpanel header.
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#6
EntropyZ
They're selling more expensive motherboards and taking out features? Sounds familiar.

At least they didn't cut back on VRM cooling.

No ITX on launch... looks like I'm getting a Strix board again at some point if X570 is a better upgrade. Or maybe they won't even bother because they can't put a decent heatsink due to space constraints.
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#7
tigger
I'm the only one
HD64G, post: 4050925, member: 95052"
The fins next to the fan are fixed to send air towards the 1st PCI-E. Should have something to do with PCI-E 4.0 as some have already suggested. The chipset by itself could have been passively cooled since the old now 990FX was consuming more than that for sure and had just passive heatsinks.
Apparently not possible passively, it seems x570 might run HOT HOT HOT BABY
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#8
EntropyZ
tigger, post: 4050950, member: 24505"
Apparently not possible passively, it seems x570 might run HOT HOT HOT BABY
What about people that aren't using a bunch of m.2 NVMe drives and still on 1 PCI-E Gen. 3 GPU? Like me. Shouldn't that mean less power draw and thus less heat?
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#9
Manu_PT
Can we now talk about the fact EVERY x570 motherboard will have a fan? Because it was considered off-topic on the other articles. I hope now you don´t try to hide this information from everyone. It´s official, we are back to 2004. RIP Silent computing enthusiasts.
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#10
HD64G
tigger, post: 4050950, member: 24505"
Apparently not possible passively, it seems x570 might run HOT HOT HOT BABY
Let's wait a few days or weeks more and find out then who is correct on that.
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#11
Mayclore
The Gaming Pro Carbon looks... nice. I appreciate those fat VRM fin stacks.
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#12
Manu_PT
HD64G, post: 4050961, member: 95052"
Let's wait a few days or weeks more and find out then who is correct on that.
I´ve seen 7 leaked X570 motherboards now, and all of them had the fan. Is fair to expect it to be on every single one of them. I see no reason for companies to hide their fanless motherboards
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#13
Dave65
tigger, post: 4050950, member: 24505"
Apparently not possible passively, it seems x570 might run HOT HOT HOT BABY
Yep not liking that fan.
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#14
bonehead123
Fans on the mobo are for wussies, and clowns who don't wanna take the time to set up a proper case cooling system according to their components.
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#15
SIGSEGV
i won't hold any single breath for any am4 msi products. Asus, Asrock and Gigabyte are my target.
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#16
tigger
I'm the only one
bonehead123, post: 4051015, member: 139670"
Fans on the mobo are for wussies, and clowns who don't wanna take the time to set up a proper case cooling system according to their components.
I guess you will be taking the fan off your x570, and cooking it then, glwt.

Apparently, the chipset is 15w, so maybe could have been run passive, but because it's in house(AMD) they have put one on in case it gets hotter running ssd raid?
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#18
oxrufiioxo
I can't wait for the obligatory RGB chipset fan. Insta pre-order activated.
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#19
TheLostSwede
Again, there will be boards without fans, but they will cost more, due to the additional cost of making a fancy heatsink that actually does something, compared to a flimsy bit of aluminum that has been used on most boards to date. Flimsy piece of aluminum plus fan will be used on the cheaper boards.
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#20
silentbogo
HD64G, post: 4050925, member: 95052"
The chipset by itself could have been passively cooled since the old now 990FX was consuming more than that for sure and had just passive heatsinks.
Old 990FX was a big 65nm chip. Thermal density was much lower due to die size, thermal endurance was much higher, plus essentially it was a fancy PCIe 2.0 hub (in most cases never expected to be fully loaded, until mining craze arrived). The rest was hanging on SB950.
Unlike 300- and 400-series, x570 is an in-house design, so I'm very much certain it's not built on AsMedia's 55nm fab (and if it is, it's gonna be huge).
Also, if you remember x48, x58 and such, those were pretty hot too(25-30W) and most boards had heatpipes running from NB to VRM with some copper fin stacks. Nowadays VRM is also getting hot, so that kind of passive approach is no longer an option. Plus all manufacturers are cutting costs on everything, so I doubt anyone's gonna spend that precious extra BOM cash on fancy cooling solution made of copper.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but with corporate greed and tendency to exploit customers - highly improbable. Though, I really miss heatpipes and fin stacks on MoBos

tigger, post: 4051023, member: 24505"
Apparently, the chipset is 15w, so maybe could have been run passive, but because it's in house(AMD) they have put one on in case it gets hotter running ssd raid?
15W is a speculative number, and as far as I can tell, it could be anywhere in a 15-25W ballpark... maybe more... maybe less. :fear:
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#22
silentbogo
TheLostSwede, post: 4051345, member: 3382"
Don't bet money on that.
I sure hope they at least moved the production to their new 32nm fab, cause it's gonna be a disaster... Last year I've already started getting my first batches of dead A320 and B350 boards with dead hubs. Still not as bad as Intel's H81, but damn close.

TheLostSwede, post: 4051345, member: 3382"
Maybe we'll see a return of these? :p
That, I wouldn't mind at all. Gimme some steampunk!
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#23
Casecutter
My Thermalright HR-55 might come out of retirement!
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