Wednesday, May 22nd 2019

ARM Revokes Huawei's Chip IP Licence

As the trade war between the US and China continues to unfold, we are seeing major US companies ban or stop providing service to China's technology giant Huawei. Now, it looks like the trade war has crossed the ocean and reached the UK. This time, UK based ARM Holdings, the provider of mobile chip IP for nearly all smartphones and tablets, has revoked the license it has given Huawei.

According to the BBC, ARM Holdings employees were instructed to suspend all interactions with Huawei, and to send a note informing Huawei that "due to an unfortunate situation, they were not allowed to provide support, deliver technology (whether software, code, or other updates), engage in technical discussions, or otherwise discuss technical matters with Huawei, HiSilicon or any of the other named entities." The news came from an internal ARM document the BBC has obtained.
So, what does this mean?

For starters, let's elaborate a bit on what exactly ARM's business is, and what connections they have with Huawei. ARM is the license provider of the ARM processor IP, which is used in all CPUs that are built around the ARM instruction set architecture. That means that whenever a microchip is designed using the ARM ISA, in order to be commercially sold, ARM needs to approve it. Those approvals are of course followed by a fixed fee the licensee is paying. How does that affect Huawei you might ask. A lot, actually. ARM is found in every chip Huawei designs and sells. Huawei's subsidiary, HiSilicon actually designs the chips, but that makes no difference. There exists a company called "ARM-China" but it has terminated the contract with Huawei as well.

The big questions now is, whether this termination affects existing devices sitting on retailer shelves, existing processors sitting in warehouses, chips currently being fabricated, or only future chip designs. In the worst case it could mean that Huawei is facing an immediate sales ban of all their phones or tablets using ARM processors, which will be a huge deal for the company.

What I think will happen in the short-term, is that they will most likely try to outsource chip manufacturing to someone with a license, like MediaTek (China) or Samsung (Korea), or adopt another industry standard ISA. A good candidate for that would be RISC-V, which is a (relatively) new and open architecture that requires no licensing. Having seen huge growth in China for all kinds of applications, from AI to IoT, RISC-V would be a logical decision, especially since the architecture is royalty-free.

But there is a problem. Currently, all of Huawei's efforts have been focused on Android, which is basically tailor-made for ARM chips. Android, mind you, is running on top of Linux, which has been ported to various other architectures in the past. The Linux kernel itself already supports RISC-V, and is available in distributions like Debian, Fedora, FreeBSD and NetBSD, so there exists a possibility that Huawei will build its new software and hardware stack on top of those.
Source: BBC
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88 Comments on ARM Revokes Huawei's Chip IP Licence

#76
Renald
SoNic67And China can enjoy going back to selling nothing... You have to read to see what was China before they stolen all the Western IP with complicity of greedy CEO's.
One starting point:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine
Seriously ? Back to Mao ? China is 10 times more independent now.
And US can also enjoy buying nothing either. It's a lose-lose situation.
But Famine is not going to be from the same reason in the USA :
www.michiganautolaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/overweight-truckers-causing-truck-accidents.jpg
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#77
SoNic67
Because EVERY sailor or jarhead grunt that served, magically has received a wold-wide political knowledge and military doctrine to the wazoo???
That's like saying that only a guy that DRIVES a car can know how to BUILD one?
Or like... only a guy that was executed by electrocution can really know that electricity can kill.
RenaldAnd US can also enjoy buying nothing either.
India, Vietnam, Pakistan.... efing whole South America... they are all lined up to sell goods to USA. How many buyers has China lined up in place of US? Africa?

Back to the topic... SD Association de-listed and banned Huawei too:
www.androidauthority.com/huawei-sd-association-microsd-989998/
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#78
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Back on topic:
www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-tech-usa-shipments/huawei-shipments-could-fall-by-up-to-a-quarter-this-year-analysts-idUSKCN1SU1DA
Smartphone shipments at Huawei, the world’s second-largest smartphone maker by volume, could tumble between 4% and 24% in 2019 if the ban stays put, according to Fubon Research and Strategy Analytics.
The ban applies to goods and services with 25% or more of U.S.-originated technology or materials, and may, therefore, affect non-American firms
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#79
lexluthermiester
FordGT90ConceptBack on topic:
Smartphone shipments at Huawei, the world’s second-largest smartphone maker by volume, could tumble between 4% and 24% in 2019 if the ban stays put, according to Fubon Research and Strategy Analytics.
Which it's going to. Things are not going to get better for Huawei and the Chinese government, only worse.
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#81
bogmali
In Orbe Terrum Non Visi
Please stick to the topic and leave your political bias out of it.
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#82
lexluthermiester
SoNic67As in this piece of news:

www.cnet.com/news/huawei-gets-double-bad-news-from-sd-association-and-wi-fi-alliance/
I find it interesting that the wording of that article states that Huawei can still use the technology offered but that they would not longer have a say in things.
The following article was also interesting;
www.cnet.com/news/huawei-could-still-survive-without-android-but-not-very-well/

For those that have stated that Trump is exclusively behind this, Huawei has been at odds with the US government since early 2012. This has been building for a long time.
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#83
Zareek
While espionage is a huge part of the bans, they also stem from financial records that prove Huawei violated international sanctions purposely and repeatedly. I will be shocked if we don't see these types of bans spread across the world as other countries complete their investigations into China's little technology spy corporation.
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