Friday, September 20th 2019

AMD Confirms: Ryzen 9 3950X and Threadripper 3rd Generation Coming in November

AMD just released an update on their upcoming processor launches this year. First revealed at E3, just a few months ago, the Ryzen 9 3950X is the world's first processor to bring 16-cores and 32-threads to the consumer desktop space. The processor's boost clock is rated at "up to 4.7 GHz", which we might now actually see, thanks to an updated AGESA software that AMD released earlier this month. Base clock for this $749 processor is set at 3.5 GHz, and TDP is 105 W, with 72 MB cache. While AMD said "September" for Ryzen 9 3950X back at E3, it looks like the date got pushed back a little bit, to November, which really makes no difference, in the grand scheme of things.

The second big part of today's announcement is that AMD is indeed working on "Rome"-based third generation Threadripper processors (probably the industry's worst-kept secret), and that these CPUs will also be launching in November, right in time to preempt Intel from having any success with their upcoming Cascade Lake-X processors. Official information on AMD's new HEDT lineup is extremely sparse so far, but if we go by recent leaks, then we should expect new chipsets and up to 32-cores/64-threads.
AMD's full statement is quoted below.

AMD
We are focusing on meeting the strong demand for our 3rd generation AMD Ryzen processors in the market and now plan to launch both the AMD Ryzen 9 3950X and initial members of the 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Threadripper processor family in volume this November. We are confident that when enthusiasts get their hands on the world's first 16-core mainstream desktop processor and our next-generation of high-end desktop processors, the wait will be well worth it.
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76 Comments on AMD Confirms: Ryzen 9 3950X and Threadripper 3rd Generation Coming in November

#26
Chloe Price
Dyatlov A, post: 4119761, member: 188430"
Totally unnecessary more than 6 Cores. Would be prefrred faster Cores
I guess Intel thought for long that four cores are enough. :rolleyes:
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#28
TheMadDutchDude
Yeah, only for the last ten years... why innovate when it's "enough"? :D

Serious note: just because you may be fine with six cores does not mean everyone else is fine with six. I'm starting to do more video work and can feel my 8 core/16 thread CPU chug. It's not to the point where I want to swap it for a 3950X on launch, though. I'm perfectly happy with my 3700X and feel it was a good upgrade over the 2700X it replaced.
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#29
lexluthermiester
Dyatlov A, post: 4119761, member: 188430"
Totally unnecessary more than 6 Cores. Would be preferred faster Cores
That is an opinion not supported by benchmarks and a great many usage models or the laws of physics.
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#30
timta2
Chloe Price, post: 4119983, member: 123719"
I guess Intel thought for long that four cores are enough. :rolleyes:
Intel released their first 6-core CPU before AMD, and it walked all over AMD's, almost a decade ago. March 2010 vs. April 2010. :rolleyes:
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#32
Mamya3084
So November i'll find out if my x399 will work with the new TR3 CPU.
Here's hoping.
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#33
lexluthermiester
TheMadDutchDude, post: 4120019, member: 185664"
Not on mainstream, they didn’t. That was HEDT.
That distinction is dubious. Intel made a 6core CPU available to the public before AMD released their first 6core. Let's be historically accurate.
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#34
notb
Folgore, post: 4119768, member: 156128"
Why not just one core bust ultra fast /s
Because we can't do that right now. But it would be the best possible solution.
xkm1948, post: 4119786, member: 50521"
Good. Now TR3 starts from 24c48t, no more of that stupid 8 core HEDT stuff.
But that basically means AMD finally admits TR is a "rich gaming" platform (like Intel HEDT). Up until now they tried to convince us it's aimed at workstations.
Honestly, nothing against that. EPYC should be the "pro" platform to compete with Xeon. And EPYC starts at 8 cores. Even Zen2.
TheMadDutchDude, post: 4120019, member: 185664"
Not on mainstream, they didn’t. That was HEDT.
So? His sentence was true.
And honestly, saying that AMD released 12 cores on mainstream is a stretch. Look at the price. And a couple years ago people on this forum mocked Intel for $500 mainstream CPUs.
Dividing CPUs by socket makes no sense anymore. $700 for a CPU is not "mainstream".
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#35
R0H1T
notb, post: 4120087, member: 165619"
But that basically means AMD finally admits TR is a "rich gaming" platform (like Intel HEDT). Up until now they tried to convince us it's aimed at workstations.
Um mm what :confused:
notb, post: 4120087, member: 165619"
Dividing CPUs by socket makes no sense anymore. $700 for a CPU is not "mainstream".
Yeah let's also forget how the competition was selling a deca core "HEDT" CPU for over $1700 just 2 years back ~ which this "mainstream" CPU smokes beyond recognition, yup we'll just forget that :pimp:
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#36
Simplex0
"plan to launch both the AMD Ryzen 9 3950X and initial members of the 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Threadripper processor family in volume this November."

I have already got everything for my upgrade except the 3950X CPU and had planed to have everything up an running this month, lets hope that it actually will be delivered in November.
I'm glad that they clearly stated THIS November, so hopefully November 30 at 11:59:59 PM then. ;)
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#37
spnidel
bogami, post: 4119780, member: 102090"
900 € is big considering that the ryzen 3000 series does not reach the presented frequencies and has no real OC capability. And this price will not be on sale either. I expect € 1000 and more in my country.
dunno, a per-CCX overclock to 4.375, 4.4, 4.3, and 4.3 ghz overclock on my 3900x at lower voltages than stock seems like pretty decent OC capability
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#38
renz496
john_, post: 4119954, member: 137560"
Nope, it's not that. Probably mobile SOCs are manufactured in different lines than desktop CPUs and GPUs anyway. Also the fact that they manufacture the I/O at GF, it was a great idea. Let's not forget that NOT all parts of Ryzen CPUs are manufactured at 7nm. Only the chiplets are made at TSMC and those are small and probably with high yields.

If AMD had a problem with capacity, there would have been shortages for ALL Ryzen models.

Nvidia didn't had to rush to a new manufacturing node, because it has the upper hand against AMD, in both performance and efficiency. Nvidia's decision was the typical business decision "we are ahead of competition, so why give consumers everything today and not make them pay twice?".
that was typical decision for any company out there (holding back performance leap). but nvidia not rushing to 7nm has less to do with that.
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#39
KarymidoN
dicktracy, post: 4119945, member: 173119"

Apple eating up all the capacity. Nvidia was smart enough to wait.
The 7nm process is not the same that apple uses. apple uses the Low power 7nm node, AMD is using the high performance ones.
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#40
Chloe Price
timta2, post: 4120010, member: 47844"
Intel released their first 6-core CPU before AMD, and it walked all over AMD's, almost a decade ago. March 2010 vs. April 2010. :rolleyes:
Yeah, with a 1000 usd price tag. Cheap for everyone to get one, eh? :D I got a Phenom II X6 in 2011 but back then four cores was more than enough, so I traded it to X4 965 BE and some cash.

i5 8000 series was their first mainstream 6-core, everything before that was HEDT which isn't for everyone.
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#41
jaggerwild
Wasn't August the original date? wow three more months(opps 2)September 21 now).
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#42
Chloe Price
jaggerwild, post: 4120320, member: 61229"
Wasn't August the original date? wow three more months
At least they're coming before holidays.
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#43
Turmania
I wish AMD can introduce 20 core CPU to mark the year 2020 with their updated 7nm node process next year.
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#44
Reaperxvii
Turmania, post: 4120450, member: 182201"
I wish AMD can introduce 20 core CPU to mark the year 2020 with their updated 7nm node process next year.
I dont think zen 3? 4? I've lost count. Ryzen 4000. Will feature a core increase as its still on 7nm. More likely just IPC and hopefully frequency increases. Since itll be 7nm+ (7nm ev I think?

With that said if you need 20 cores why not go threadripper? Tbh 16 cores is overkill for mainstream imo (with that said I want a 3900x lol). I might buy 3rd gen threadripper just because when it launches (on my 3700x now).
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#45
Tomorrow
notb, post: 4120087, member: 165619"
And honestly, saying that AMD released 12 cores on mainstream is a stretch. Look at the price. And a couple years ago people on this forum mocked Intel for $500 mainstream CPUs.
Dividing CPUs by socket makes no sense anymore. $700 for a CPU is not "mainstream".
Does not matter what the price is. Socket AM4 = Mainstream compatible. Couple of years ago we had 7700K. It was not 500. People mocked it because it was quadcore with HT. And it has not aged well on a dead end Z170 platform.
Same way someone here was arguing that Intel was first to release 6 core a decade ago for HEDT. Regardless of the price or the socket they were the first.
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#46
Chloe Price
Yeah they did, but a 1000 eur/usd CPU isn't something what everyone is going to get. Intel had a lead for years in the HEDT segment, but now AMD has more cores in desktop and HEDT platforms.

I like that how things are, reminds me like back in the day with Athlon 64 vs Pentium 4.
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#47
notb
Tomorrow, post: 4120511, member: 136792"
Does not matter what the price is. Socket AM4 = Mainstream compatible.
This is exactly what I was talking about.
What if AMD managed to shrink the I/O die and magically release a 32-core AM4 CPU for $2000 and consuming 250W? Still mainstream because AM4?

What if Intel decides that socket 2066 is small enough and unifies the non-server lineup? Your world would fall apart? :)

As of 2019 a 12-core CPU for $700 is not priced for mainstream, is not available in mainstream and - most importantly - isn't addressing mainstream computing needs.
This socket classification makes no sense anymore. In your approach it has nothing to do with meaning of the word "mainstream" and becomes just an alias for the socket used - hence, redundant.
Chloe Price, post: 4120527, member: 123719"
Yeah they did, but a 1000 eur/usd CPU isn't something what everyone is going to get.
1000 USD is very likely the 3950X price that we'll see in few weeks.

KarymidoN, post: 4120293, member: 153998"
The 7nm process is not the same that apple uses. apple uses the Low power 7nm node, AMD is using the high performance ones.
This is being repeated on and on.
Yes, there are 2 variants of 7nm being made.
They use the same production line.

This is why, despite what AMD fans had been saying here, 7nm supply issues affected AMD as well.
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#48
Chloe Price
notb, post: 4120532, member: 165619"
1000 USD is very likely the 3950X price that we'll see in few weeks.
I doubt that. It could be 750 euros including VAT here in Finland, usually those MSRP prices translate straight to similar sum of Euros here.

But I don't see that as a bad price, it's a god damn 16-core monster.
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#49
lexluthermiester
Chloe Price, post: 4120536, member: 123719"
But I don't see that as a bad price, it's a god damn 16-core monster.
Agreed. Intel is charging more for fewer cores that don't perform as well.
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#50
Chloe Price
And also, that isn't for us typical gamers. A 6-core will be enough for years for gaming.
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