Friday, December 27th 2019
AMD Ryzen 4000 Rumored to Offer Around 17% Increased Performance
AMD's upcoming Ryzen 4000 series processors will be based on the company's Zen 3 design, which will feature a deeply revised architecture aiming to offer increased performance (surprising no-one). AMD themselves have already said that Zen 3 will offer performance increases in line with the release of new architectures - and we all remember the around 15% increase achieved with the release of Zen 2 Ryzen 3000 series, which surprised even AMD on its performance capabilities. Several sources around the web are quoting an around 17% increase in performance, taking into account increased operating frequencies of Zen 3 (100 to 200 MHz at least for the enterprise solutions, which could pave the way for even higher increases in consumer-geared products) and increased IPC of its core design. The utilization of EUV in the 7 nm process shouldn't have much to do with the increased frequencies of the CPUs, and will mostly be used to reduce the number of masks that are required for production of AMD's Zen 3 CPUs (which in turn will lead to increased yields).
Sources are claiming an increase of up to 50% in Zen 3's Floating Point Units (FPU) compared to Zen 2, while integer operations should make do with a 10-12% increase. Cores should remain stable across the board - and with that increase in performance, I'd say an upper limit of 16 physical and 32 logic cores in a consumer-geared CPU is more than enough. Increased IPCs and frequencies will definitely make AMD an even better proposition for all markets - gaming in particular, where Intel still has a (slightly virtual) hold in consumer's minds.
Sources:
3D Center, Red Gaming Tech, Reddit
Sources are claiming an increase of up to 50% in Zen 3's Floating Point Units (FPU) compared to Zen 2, while integer operations should make do with a 10-12% increase. Cores should remain stable across the board - and with that increase in performance, I'd say an upper limit of 16 physical and 32 logic cores in a consumer-geared CPU is more than enough. Increased IPCs and frequencies will definitely make AMD an even better proposition for all markets - gaming in particular, where Intel still has a (slightly virtual) hold in consumer's minds.
101 Comments on AMD Ryzen 4000 Rumored to Offer Around 17% Increased Performance
AMD is as good as even to Intel. The difference will be closed and even supass in the 4x00 series.
Honestly though the 3600 is a freakin' awesome chip and there is no real reason to upgrade it other than satisfying an itch.
Highly unlikely for anything in a near future but I'm hoping that after AMD builds a good foundation Intel fights back with another core2/icore scale of leap.
I have wet dreams about having Intel AMD and Intel competing for the fastest discrete GPU. lol
Good luck! :D
I'm actually fighting to resist to upgrading to 2700x they are $149 at microcenter and you get another $30 off when you bundle with mobo.
What I was trying to say was good luck holding off when the next best thing comes out. :D
7nm+ 4000 and 5nm 5000 series chips.
Thank you.
Here's something interesting regarding 7nm yields:
Notice anything with the left part of 1st pic and the 2nd pic? Give you a hint: they switched the colors ...
The 1st pic is from an article in November while the 2nd one is from an article in July. That "~0.09" is the defect rate of N7 "not-Large Die", before Zen 2 was even launched. N7's "Large Die" yield is ... somehow ... even better, if this is to be believed (Large Die is 250+ square mm, such as Navi 10, which is 251 square mm).
Here's the yield with a defect of 0.09 for Zen 2 Ryzen chiplets:
Over 93% yields ... but this is 7nm and NOT 7+nm.Care to share where you got that from?
nl.hardware.info/nieuws/69919/tsmc-claimt-hoge-5nm-yields-van-80-massaproductie-begint-in-eerste-helft-2020
The 80% was posted on 12 Dec by HWI.
If a Zen 2 die was hypothetically used (around 76mm^2), yields would be around 41%.
Which is not bad for something a year away from mass production.