Thursday, August 6th 2020

AMD Ryzen 9 4950X "Vermeer" Tested, the Sample Boosts to 4.8 GHz

AMD is preparing to launch its next-generation Ryzen 4000 series of desktop processors based on Zen 3 architecture, codenamed Vermeer. Thanks to the sources over at Igor's Lab, we have some new information about the clock speeds of a rumored Ryzen 9 4950X Vermeer model. Featuring 16 cores and 32 threads, the Ryzen 9 4950X is reportedly going to feature boost frequency of at least 4.8 GHz. Given that this is only an engineering sample, the final frequencies could be higher. In the report, the base frequency of the CPU is said to be 3.5 GHz. This is a very good frequency for a CPU that has that many cores. All of this information is coming from decoding the OPN code which states "100-000000059-52_ 48/35 _ Y". The 48 number indicates the boost, and 35 the base frequency. In the previous reports, we got OPN codes "100-000000059-14_46/37_Y" and "100-000000059-15_46/37_N" which suggested 4.6 GHz boost and base of 3.5 GHz, indicating that this is a new stepping.
Sources: Igor's Lab, VideoCardz
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74 Comments on AMD Ryzen 9 4950X "Vermeer" Tested, the Sample Boosts to 4.8 GHz

#1
lexluthermiester
Nice! The 4900X would be the 12c/24t part then. Hopefully the price will be similarly reasonable compared to the 3900X
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#2
Nephilim666
I can't wait to upgrade to threadripper version a year or so from now.
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#3
Legacy-ZA
Exciting times for computer hardware in Q4 2020. :)
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#4
chris.london
Essentially the same boost and base speeds as Zen 2. That is a slight disappointment.

(There seems to be a mistake in the last sentence. Those OPN codes should indicate a 3.7GHz base, not 3.5.)
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#5
watzupken
Actually I think it is not surprising that the "enhanced" 7nm is capable of doing higher clockspeed. The current 3900XT could potentially be using the same 7nm, thus, allowing it to clock higher than a 3900X. Only question is whether it will end up consuming more power, which I suspect so. Another few more months to go before we get official information.
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#6
londiste
For reference, 3950X clock speeds are 3.5GHz base and 4.7GHz boost.
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#7
lexluthermiester
Legacy-ZA
Exciting times for computer hardware in Q4 2020. :)
It really is! This point in time reminds me of 2004/2005/2006 time frame.
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Legacy-ZA
lexluthermiester
It really is! This point in time reminds me of 2004/2005/2006 time frame.
It sure does; I bought my ATi X800XT back then to play HL2. The only thing we are now missing is... the competitive prices of those times. Hopefully, we won't get screwed over too badly. :)
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#9
lexluthermiester
Legacy-ZA
It sure does; I bought my ATi X800XT back then to play HL2. The only thing we are now missing is... the competitive prices of those times. Hopefully, we won't get screwed over too badly. :)
The thing is, with Ryzen AMD has leaped(lunged) ahead and is leaving Intel behind. Historically though, Intel makes a impressive comeback, which then makes for great competition. With Ryzen 3xxx and now 4xxx, AMD is really sticking it to Intel and making the PC market shine again.
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#10
Legacy-ZA
lexluthermiester
The thing is, with Ryzen AMD has leaped(lunged) ahead and is leaving Intel behind. Historically though, Intel makes a impressive comeback, which then makes for great competition. With Ryzen 3xxx and now 4xxx, AMD is really sticking it to Intel and making the PC market shine again.
I think I am going to upgrade to Ryzen 4000 with an iGPU, I am very curious on how they will perform in gaming, I mostly play older generation games with the odd new AAA title and a Ryzen iGPU will tie me over until I can replace this GTX660Ti, sadly my GTX1070 died and only got half my money back for it. :(

For now, I can only choose one thing to upgrade, a new CPU (With RAM and Mobo) or a new shiny GPU. I have always wanted to try the AMD camp, this seems a good time as any to do so, I am very excited to see the benchies. :)
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#11
ZoneDymo
Legacy-ZA
Exciting times for computer hardware in Q4 2020. :)
Its been excellent times for computer hardware for some time now....well apart from the overpriced videocards that is.
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#12
NicklasAPJ
Sadly you cant use single boost speed to a single thing today.....

My 3950X nerver seen the day of 4.7Ghz single core speed as they said it can.

All core turbo is what there matters today.
If the CPU can do 4.6Ghz all core im happy.
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#13
Assimilator
Tested?

By whom?

There is zero reference to testing in the Igor's Lab article. He's merely decoding an OPN that "somebody" gave him. I too can make up an OPN, decode it, and post unsubstantiated BS about it.

Even by TPU's increasingly low editorial standards, this is an exceedingly poor piece of clickbait.
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#14
lexluthermiester
Legacy-ZA
sadly my GTX1070 died and only got half my money back for it. :(
Ouch.
Legacy-ZA
I think I am going to upgrade to Ryzen 4000 with an iGPU, I am very curious on how they will perform in gaming
It would seem that the Ryzen 4000's for mobile have very good performance(for an IGP), so it stands to reason it'll be workable. I would still get a dedicated GPU though, even if just an inexpensive mid-range model.
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#15
Xuper
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This one 5K mhz, obviously not LN oc.at 5K , latency is 49ns which much lower(Better) than fastest one in 3xxx Ryzen ( 68ns ).So I expect better latency for 4950x
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#16
BorisDG
What a joke. AMD literally are doing the same as Intel. Same CPU with little higher clocks and new model number.
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#17
theoneandonlymrk
BorisDG
What a joke. AMD literally are doing the same as Intel. Same CPU with little higher clocks and new model number.
The clocks, like with Intel are limited by the process, always are.

These have quite the redesign internally and are not the same as zen2 based chip's.


No one has surpassed by any great margin the 5Ghz AMD launched first five years ago and no one will.
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#18
Tom Yum
BorisDG
What a joke. AMD literally are doing the same as Intel. Same CPU with little higher clocks and new model number.
You do know that the 4000 desktop Ryzen series will use Zen 3 cores right, with a rumoured 15-20% IPC uplift from Zen 2. If that pans out (which will have to wait for reviews) slightly higher clocks means even more performance uplift.
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#19
steve360
BorisDG
What a joke. AMD literally are doing the same as Intel. Same CPU with little higher clocks and new model number.
Zen 3 is a new design; it's not Zen 2+ or a refresh so AMD isn't pulling an Intel here.
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#20
MDDB
Rumour has it that Zen 3 will have around a +10% IPC over Zen 2. So a 4950X that boosts to 4,8 GHz would equate a 3950X boosting to 5,3 GHz. That should be enough to take the single threaded performance crown from Intel, wouldn't it?
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#21
midnightoil
I'm curious how far the FCLK is going to be pushed and what its limits are. Renoir can be pushed harder than any other Zen 2 parts can. If Zen 3 can be pushed even harder, OCing may offer some very nice gains.
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#22
ratirt
Nice!!! I feel in my bones that upgrade is coming :)
I only hope (if this is, in fact, an engineering sample) the clocks will go higher and since I'm going for 12c24t in my desktop this time around, I sincerely hope the clocks for the 12 core Ryzen3 will be higher a bit that the 4950X. That would be so darn awesome. Honestly, even the 4.8Ghz all core would've been great at this point. Also wonder if the latency has improved as well.
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#23
AnarchoPrimitiv
MDDB
Rumour has it that Zen 3 will have around a +10% IPC over Zen 2. So a 4950X that boosts to 4,8 GHz would equate a 3950X boosting to 5,3 GHz. That should be enough to take the single threaded performance crown from Intel, wouldn't it?
10%? everything I've read from any source claims at least 17% and that's not all, because apparently AMD is also doubling the cores per CCX. I'm not sure what this will translate to, but I do know that TPU's own reviews of the 3100 and 3300x found that due to the 3300x have only a single CCX vs two for the 3100 resulted in an average performance increase of 12% for the 3300x. I don't know enough about CPUs to confidently make the claim that this will translate directly to Ryzen 4000 since it will have double the cores per CCX, but if it does, it could be another decent performance boost.

So, take the 17% IPC increase, the performance increase from doubling the cores per CCX (perhaps 12%) and a 200-300Mhz frequency increase from the upgraded node, and I believe that a 25% core for core performance uplift over Zen2 is definitely possible.
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#24
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Xuper
[MEDIA=imgur]R77JD5h[/MEDIA][MEDIA=imgur]2gXHdOx[/MEDIA]
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This one 5K mhz, obviously not LN oc.at 5K , latency is 49ns which much lower(Better) than fastest one in 3xxx Ryzen ( 68ns ).So I expect better latency for 4950x
5K mhz?:roll: One way to abbreviate ghz.
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#25
Xuper
I prefer to use 5K instead of 5000.don't know why.
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