Wednesday, September 23rd 2020

GALAX Confirms GeForce RTX 3080 20GB and RTX 3060, RTX 3060 Matches RTX 2080

An alleged event by GALAX targeted at distributors in China revealed up to three upcoming SKUs in NVIDIA's RTX 30-series. This comes as yet another confirmation from a major NVIDIA AIC partner about the 20 GB variant of the GeForce RTX 3080. The RTX 3080 originally launched with 10 GB memory earlier this month, and it is widely expected that NVIDIA fills the price-performance gap between this $700 SKU and its $1,500 sibling. The RTX 3080 uses twenty 8 Gbit GDDR6X memory chips (two chips per 32-bit data-path), much like how the RTX 3090 achieves its 24 GB memory amount.

Elsewhere we see GALAX mention the RTX 3060, a performance-segment SKU positioned under the RTX 3070. You'll notice that the product-stack graph by GALAX suggests performance comparisons to previous-generation SKUs. The RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 are faster than everything from the previous generation, while the RTX 3070, which is coming next month, is shown trading blows with both the RTX 2080 Ti and the RTX 2080 Super. In this same graph, the RTX 3060 is shown matching up to the RTX 2080 (non-Super), a card NVIDIA originally launched at $700.
There's an unnamed SKU slotted between the RTX 3070 and the RTX 3080 10 GB, which is codenamed "PG142 SKU 0." Some AICs/OEMs are referring to this as the "RTX 3070 Ti," and others the "RTX 3070 Super." Given that the Super brand extension has been used by NVIDIA to denote a mid-life refresh for an existing product stack, it's very likely that this SKU is simply the RTX 3070 16 GB (RTX 3070 with 16 GB of GDDR6 memory, and perhaps bolstering in other areas). This SKU is shown trading blows with the RTX 2080 Ti and the TITAN RTX.
Source: Overclocking.com
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81 Comments on GALAX Confirms GeForce RTX 3080 20GB and RTX 3060, RTX 3060 Matches RTX 2080

#1
ppn
Now only if Nvidia installed 19GBps GDDR6x on there is 2080Ti level possible, to match the bandwidth of 600GBs, with 14 can only go this far. same goes for 3060 and 2080. Delusional to think 3080 is 2x2080.
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#2
Julhes
So it is enough to have a card with more memory to be faster? No, this is fucking marketing.
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#3
Franzen4Real
I was fully expecting a card with more VRAM at some point, but I figured it would be a 3080ti 8ish months from now similar to the 780ti/980ti/1080ti launches to slot in at the $1000 price point filling the gap. It would be surprising to me to see a 3080 (non ti or super) variant with 20GB anytime soon.
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#4
thesmokingman
Will be getting a few of these for production use asap.
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#5
Sihastru
Julhes
So it is enough to have a card with more memory to be faster? No, this is fucking marketing.
Unless it's a "SUPER" variant based on a TSMC 7nm die.
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#6
neatfeatguy
As always, it's interesting to read up on rumors and leaks about up and coming hardware.....but

I'm still patiently waiting to see what AMD offers. Get me that 2080Ti performance level at $500 or less, I'm sold - whether it's from Nvidia or AMD. I don't care what kind of junk leaks these companies are dropping for Nvidia.

Right now from Nvidia it's looking like a 3070 (but that depends on reviews). I just need to see what AMD gives us.
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#7
Oberon
Franzen4Real
It would be surprising to me to see a 3080 (non ti or super) variant with 20GB anytime soon.
Where do you think all the 3080 dies are going?
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#8
ZoneDymo
thesmokingman
Will be getting a few of these for production use asap.
exactly the type of customer every company dreams about
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#9
Solid State Soul ( SSS )
Lamo, now RTX 3080 early adopters laughing at late RTX 2080 Ti owners memes gets to share the pain
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#10
Chrispy_
Two interesting takeaways from this set of images.

1. 3070 is clearly lower in the heirarchy than 2080Ti, counter to Nvidia's claims.

2. What is a PG142?
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#11
ppn
Chrispy_
Two interesting takeaways from this set of images.

1. 3070 is clearly lower in the heirarchy than 2080Ti, counter to Nvidia's claims.

2. What is a PG142?
In order to have something faster than 2080Ti must be the 7680cuda 320 bit 22000 Mtransistors GA103 rumors that first surfaced in January. The mid sized 495mm2 die.
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#12
Oberon
Chrispy_
What is a PG142?
3070 Ti to counter Big Navi.
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#13
B-Real
Even the RTX 2060 matched the GTX 1080, so it's not a big deal.
Chrispy_
1. 3070 is clearly lower in the heirarchy than 2080Ti, counter to Nvidia's claims.
This.
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#14
Bubster
20 gb and all the new skus just shows that Nvidia is worried about AMD's getting better at being more competitive and AMD increasing its Market share...Way to go... Dr Su...Busting both Nvidia and Intel and eating their Lunch.
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#15
Parn
Chrispy_
1. 3070 is clearly lower in the heirarchy than 2080Ti, counter to Nvidia's claims.
Exactly.

It seems to me the improvement in power efficiency from Turing to Ampere is a lot smaller than from Pascal to Turing. In order for Ampere to reach the performance delta claimed by NV, they have to be pushed to the extreme in terms of energy consumption. Personally I'm not a fan of 300W+ cards.
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#16
Dave65
Won't the 20 gb model piss off the people who purchased the 10 gb model 3080?
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#17
F-man4
Wow RTX3070 is inferior to 2080Ti.
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#18
Wolfkin
Dave65
Won't the 20 gb model piss off the people who purchased the 10 gb model 3080?
Depends a lot on price and performance of the 20 GB model, say the price turns out to be $999 but only a perfomance boost of 5-10%, then I don't think the one's that bought the 10 GB model will be that angry.
Also, as it stands right now, the $1500 RTX 3090 is rumoured to be only ~10% faster than 3080 (in games) but that's just a rumour for now, we will know tomorrow.
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#19
ShurikN
Dave65
Won't the 20 gb model piss off the people who purchased the 10 gb model 3080?
As an early adopter (in this case pre-order / day one) , you waive your right to be pissed of at anything.
They bought the Hype, these are the consequences.
I say screw 'em...
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#20
lynx29
Soon, my padawans will understand true power. October 28th. be patient little ones
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#21
CrAsHnBuRnXp
lynx29
Soon, my padawans will understand true power. October 28th. be patient little ones
I would be surprised if AMD were to pull a rabbit out of their hat and be competitive in the GPU market again.

Are you still going to go Big Navi top tier even if nvidia clobbers it to death in the benchmarks? Just curious.
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#22
lynx29
CrAsHnBuRnXp
I would be surprised if AMD were to pull a rabbit out of their hat and be competitive in the GPU market again.

Are you still going to go Big Navi top tier even if nvidia clobbers it to death in the benchmarks? Just curious.
I am not, I will go with 3080 if that happens. But I expect, since little navi competed with 1080 ti at $300 less price point, and big navi uses 7nm EUV node - I fully expect we will see big navi beat a 3080. not in ray tracing, but in raw fps across the board. ray tracing means crap to me though, its the new Physx as far as I am concerned.

drivers have improved a lot on AMD's side. i only ever had an issue when i tried overclocking, and im fine with that, as my days of overclocking are over.
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#23
btarunr
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Julhes
So it is enough to have a card with more memory to be faster? No, this is fucking marketing.
I'm guessing Cyberpunk+RTX is a video memory hog.
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#24
techguymaxc
Dave65
Won't the 20 gb model piss off the people who purchased the 10 gb model 3080?
All 10 of them?

Anyone that was paying attention should have seen this coming. I sold my 2080 Ti 2 months ago in anticipation of the 30 series launch. I didn't even bother to attempt a purchase on launch day because 20GB SKUs are right around the corner.
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#25
bug
Dave65
Won't the 20 gb model piss off the people who purchased the 10 gb model 3080?
Why would it? Adding a 20GB variant does not make original model any slower. And you won't need more than 10GB for years to come anyway.
But I like the train of thought: Nvidia releases the 10GB 3080 - omg, not enough VRAM; Nvidia supposed to release the 20GB 3080 - omg, initial buyers are screwed.
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