30 bills? Too big chunk to chew?

I like the idea of it especially since Intel has FPGA's and Nvidia is acquiring ARM possibly depends how that trade goes through or not. The price is quite a chunk of money, but AMD's been on a roll lately. I like this prospects of this acquisition more than a lot of others they could make though.

Xilinx is the FPGA king

they really should hire more gpu driver engineers first... not trying to be mean or anything... lol

Have a huge project using Xilinx FPGA......... getting worried........ugh

Those clone/emulation consoles use fpga. Really cool chips.

this is the first AMD major acquisition since ATI purchase,
I really hope that they don't overpaid it otherwise, they might not even be able to financially recover this time and perish for good.

chaosmassivethis is the first AMD major acquisition since ATI purchase,
I really hope that they don't overpaid it otherwise, they might not even be able to financially recover this time and perish for good.

6 vs 30, piece of cake.

I think that Xilinx is a good acquisition target for AMD, but 30B is a enormouse chunk of money. I guess the question is projected growth relative to acquisition cost and debt they'd have to leverage.

lynx29they really should hire more gpu driver engineers first... not trying to be mean or anything... lol

Within the company of Xilinx I would assume they have highly skilled programmers.

natr0nThose clone/emulation consoles use fpga. Really cool chips.

Unlikely. They are probably developed on FPGAs but FPGAs tend to be pricier than ASICs and there is no call for them in an emulation style console where costs are generally cut as much as possible.

I wonder if this is going to turn out to be some financial gymnastics for a merger to get around some license agreement stuff

AMD reaching for ARM as well. How about that.

ratirtAMD reaching for ARM as well. How about that.

They already have a license.

Can anyone explain what is AMD looking for with Xilinx acquisition? I am lacking deeper understanding. What benefit would AMD gain?

MysteoaThey already have a license.

For x86 but not for ARM.
You are right. AMD has the license already. damn :)

ratirtFor x86 but not for ARM

Anyone can have a license for ARM. Well, for now ...

Anymal6 vs 30, piece of cake.

what?

bencrutzwhat?

in case you don't get it, he referring to ATI acquisition was valued at 6Bil (5.6 to be precise) which was super-overpaid at that time.

bencrutzwhat?

I think it was a reference to the price of ATI vs. this acquisition.

Pap1erCan anyone explain what is AMD looking for with Xilinx acquisition? I am lacking deeper understanding. What benefit would AMD gain?

The ability to deliver more solutions to enterprise customers, mainly. FPGAs have tons of uses in HPC, datacenter and similar usage scenarios. Not really relevant at all for consumers.

R-T-BUnlikely. They are probably developed on FPGAs but FPGAs tend to be pricier than ASICs and there is no call for them in an emulation style console where costs are generally cut as much as possible.

You're thinking of the wrong type of consoles. These are premium "retro gaming on modern TVs" consoles. Though there's no emulation; the FPGA-based ones run native code. Some are DIY solutions, others are pre-made.

chaosmassiveATI acquisition was valued at 6Bil (5.6 to be precise) which was super-overpaid at that time.

Thing is there weren't many GPU silicon manufactures at the time, they got a rather unique collection of IP, FPGA makers are a dime and a dozen on the other hand. Buying Xilinx for 30 billion looks like an order of magnitude worse idea.

AMD isn't Intel yet, they shouldn't shell out billions on companies like it's nothing.

chaosmassivein case you don't get it, he referring to ATI acquisition was valued at 6Bil (5.6 to be precise) which was super-overpaid at that time.

ah, i see, thanks for clarifying it :roll:

Vya DomusThing is there weren't many GPU silicon manufactures at the time, they got a rather unique collection of IP, FPGA makers are a dime and a dozen on the other hand. Buying Xilinx for 30 billion looks like an order of magnitude worse idea.

AMD isn't Intel yet, they shouldn't shell out billions on companies like it's nothing.

Maybe they have cash to spare and they don't want to just keep it but invest in something that has future. This acquisition would improve AMD's portfolio and as you may all think, AMD is not Intel, it doesn't make much sense. AMD and Intel are huge companies and they are thinking about the future of the companies and since both have enormous number of advisors who think what the strategy will be and how the companies will evolve in the future to come. I'm sure AMD has a plan for this acquisition just like NVidia has a plan for acquiring ARM.

ValantarThe ability to deliver more solutions to enterprise customers, mainly. FPGAs have tons of uses in HPC, datacenter and similar usage scenarios.

And most importantly telecom and high-speed networking. I think AMD is after that 5G infrastructure sweet pie, since xilinx already has a decent portfolio of comms&accelerator solutions.

silentbogoAnd most importantly telecom and high-speed networking. I think AMD is after that 5G infrastructure sweet pie, since xilinx already has a decent portfolio of comms&accelerator solutions.

That's probably true. AMD also theoretically has a leg up on Intel in terms of integration given that their entire CPU portfolio is based on chiplets - adding an FPGA or two into the mix for an embedded EPYC or similar product series would probably be relatively easy.

As for why they're looking at this in a broader perspective, I think AMD is seeing significant growth but are also seeing the limits of the X86 CPU + GPU/compute accelerator market, and want to diversify. Makes sense business wise, though there is definitely a need to not over-reach when doing something like this. Buying a company worth between 1/3 and 1/4 of your own? That's defintely a big ask. Though that should also mean buying into a solid source of revenue, of course, and as such it should pay for itself in time even if left to its own devices (as long as the interest on the loans needed to buy isn't egregious).

Given the way Intel has been gobbling up companies left and right for the past decade, I think we need someone else of a similar size to balance things out and avoid Intel entirely cementing themselves as the one-stop-shop for all enterprise compute solutions. (No, I don't think NvidiARM+Mellanox quite does that, as ARM's main business is (still) consumer chips.)