Friday, September 10th 2021

First AMD Radeon Vega M Drivers for Intel NUC8i7HNK and NUC8i7HVK in Over 16 Months Released

Intel and AMD released the first Radeon Software drivers for the exotic Radeon Vega M graphics found in Intel NUC8i7HNK and NUC8i7HVK, in over 16 months. The Intel Download Center just added version 21.10.03.11 of Radeon Software for the graphics solution, dated 09/09/2021. The previous drivers dated all the way back to February 2020, and were based on Adrenalin 20.2.

The drivers are based on a release candidate of Adrenalin 21.10, which is 21.10RC1, but does not include the security updates AMD could be bundling with the upcoming 21.10 drivers (October 2021). "Radeon RX Vega M Graphics Driver version 21.10.03.11, which is based on 21.10RC1, does not include the latest functional and security updates. An update is targeted to be released in March of 2022 and will include additional functional and security updates. Customers should update to the latest version as it becomes available," says Intel in the release notes of the drivers. The drivers do include optimization for the latest games, including "Metro Exodus" (DX12), and "Resident Evil Village," besides adding support for Microsoft PlayReady AV1 decode.

DOWNLOAD: AMD Radeon Vega M drivers for Intel NUC8i7HNK and NUC8i7HVK from Intel
The Radeon Vega M graphics was a unique, one-off collaboration between Intel and AMD, found in special 8th Gen Core SKUs powering the Intel NUC8i7HNK and NUC8i7HVK desktops. Codenamed "Kaby Lake-G," the processor+graphics multi-chip module (MCM) packs a 4-core/8-thread CPU based on the "Kaby Lake" microarchitecture, and a discrete GPU die based on the AMD "Vega" graphics architecture, with dedicated 4 GB on-package memory from an HBM stack. The GPU featured 1,280 stream processors across 20 compute units, 72 TMUs, 32 ROPs, and a 1024-bit HBM interface.
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34 Comments on First AMD Radeon Vega M Drivers for Intel NUC8i7HNK and NUC8i7HVK in Over 16 Months Released

#1
Makaveli
Argh OEM video driver lockdown is trash.

Waiting this long for a driver update is unacceptable.
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#2
P4-630
"Game ready" in 16 months..... :banghead:
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#3
GoldenX
Good, I had to redirect several owners of these things to Linux thanks to the stupidly outdated drivers they had on Windows.
Now they can suffer the terrible AMD drivers on Windows again.
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#4
Chrispy_
I bought one of these when they came out, and also a Zotac ZBOX with GTX1070 in it; Both similar price - the goal being to see if the Vega was fast enough to replace the much larger ZBOX.

I'm glad the answer to that question was "no, we'll buy a dozen ZBOX" because 16 months is a total farce. Both AMD and Intel should be ashamed of this and the spat over who was responsible for driver support served to make both companies look childish whilst simultaneously sending a big "F*** YOU" message from both companies to the early adopters who supported this venture.

Given that that the GPU didn't perform anywhere near what was promised anyway, I consigned it to the back of a television VESA mount on a trolley and use it solely for Powerpoint and PDF presentations where the Microsoft Basic Display driver is more than adequate.
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#5
dicktracy
biggest mistake was teaming up with scummy AMD in the first place
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#6
spnidel
dicktracybiggest mistake was teaming up with scummy AMD in the first place
there's my favorite shill
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#7
defaultluser
dicktracybiggest mistake was teaming up with scummy AMD in the first place
Intel were the assholes who insisted that they were in charge of driver updates - the same thing that castrated the PowerVR-sourced GMA500
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#8
Vya Domus
P4-630"Game ready" in 16 months..... :banghead:
That's an Nvidia catchphrase though.
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#9
Chrispy_
defaultluserIntel were the assholes who insisted that they were in charge of driver updates - the same thing that castrated the PowerVR-sourced GMA500
Intel and drivers is why I'm pessimistic about their entry to the dGPU space.

Intel are too big and too complacent to care about user experience, especially gamers who aren't relevant to their beancounters like datacenter customers are.

Man, I hope I'm wrong; The NV/AMD duopoly is really stale.
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#10
Tardian
If two players try to catch a ball ... nine times out of ten it will be dropped.
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#11
Chrispy_
TardianIf two players try to catch a ball ... nine times out of ten it will be dropped.
What if two players don't try to catch a ball and stare at each other for 16 months even whilst the ball is on the floor between them and in desperate need of throwing back?
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#12
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
P4-630"Game ready" in 16 months..... :banghead:
At least these are real unlike the dg2 lol
defaultluserIntel were the assholes who insisted that they were in charge of driver updates - the same thing that castrated the PowerVR-sourced GMA500
Id love to see a Discreet PowerVR/Imagination Technologies GPU, it was what Powered the Dreamcast in 1999
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#13
Darmok N Jalad
Chrispy_What if two players don't try to catch a ball and stare at each other for 16 months even whilst the ball is on the floor between them and in desperate need of throwing back?
I believe you call that the Arizona Diamondbacks.
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#14
thesmokingman
Wouldn't this release be primarily on Intel's timeline? AMD would be like the subcontractor here.
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#16
stimpy88
AMD's software and driver developers are an embarrassment to the industry with stuff like this. They lost the excuse of not having any money, a long time ago.
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#17
kruk
stimpy88AMD's software and driver developers are an embarrassment to the industry with stuff like this. They lost the excuse of not having any money, a long time ago.
But this is a custom SoC made for Intel. Nobody knows about the agreements behind this deal, but it's highly probable that Intel must pay for the support/development of the GPU driver. And talking about that, Intel has already shown that they don't care anymore about these SKUs as they were already discontinued in 2019 in favor of Xe. Why should AMD support a competitors product for free?
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#18
dj-electric
Pleasant surprise as a Hades Canyon NUC owner
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Chrispy_
krukBut this is a custom SoC made for Intel. Nobody knows about the agreements behind this deal, but it's highly probable that Intel must pay for the support/development of the GPU driver. And talking about that, Intel has already shown that they don't care anymore about these SKUs as they were already discontinued in 2019 in favor of Xe. Why should AMD support a competitors product for free?
I blame both companies to some extent but the majority of the blame is on Intel. Ignoring the fact that it had AMD technology on the same package, this is an Intel product and Intel are ultimately responsible for providing the drivers. Both AMD and Intel CPUs make use of other companies' IP (notably ARM) yet you don't go downloading separate drivers from ARM's website for your AMD or Intel CPU!

AMD's share of the blame is that adding yet-another-Vega iteration into their Adrenaline drivers would have been child's play (they have drivers for Vega as datacentre accelerators, two generations of dGPUs, three generations of APU, and untold embedded/custom designs on top of that)

AMD intentionally withheld driver support to leave us consumers high-and-dry just to make a point to Intel.
A point that Intel clearly didn't care about.

For AMD not to come out of this looking bad, perhaps they could have accepted Intel weren't going to do anything and mitigated the damage/offered a goodwill gesture to customers - even used that as a promotion; "Hey, you bought this Intel CPU and Intel are being jerks. We're not jerks, here's some free software support to ease your suffering because AMD are the good guys; Next time you buy a CPU remember we've got your back."

But no. AMD's marketing department has and always will be a shitshow. The golden opportunity was wasted and once again AMD's marketing department managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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#20
yotano211
More like 2 players looking directly at the sun blinded by the light
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#21
lexluthermiester
The whining and over-reacting is VERY strong in this thread...

The reason the drivers took 16months to be updated is clear, there isn't a large product line-up and thus the need for updates is not as great.
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#22
m2geek
Stuff like this, is why I have Zero faith in Intel in the dedicated gaming GPU market...

They should be hyper-aware of how this looks to gamers, but their arrogance will blind them to that like the 14nm++++++++++++++++++++++ wankery.
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#23
Mussels
Moderprator
dicktracybiggest mistake was teaming up with scummy AMD in the first place
Comedy lounge is in the other subforum
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#24
Chrispy_
lexluthermiesterThe whining and over-reacting is VERY strong in this thread...

The reason the drivers took 16months to be updated is clear, there isn't a large product line-up and thus the need for updates is not as great.
Whilst driver support for VegaM CPUs isn't that important because it was a niche product with few design wins, it *IS* an indicator of how Intel treats gamers, and Intel is relying on trust and faith for its upcoming ARC dGPU launches, which this VegaM debacle erodes considerably.
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#25
lexluthermiester
Chrispy_Whilst driver support for VegaM CPUs isn't that important because it was a niche product with few design wins, it *IS* an indicator of how Intel treats gamers
That has not been my experience. Intel drivers have been rock solid stable for decades. Never had a problem with them. They are not updated as frequently and that is because they don't NEED frequent updates. Intel makes a point of getting their drivers right the first time and often than not succeed in such. And no, I'm not being a "fanyboy". I'm offering objective input based on experiences. AMD and NVidia both need to update their driver frequently due to many factor such as glitches & bugs being discovered, GFX run-times being improved and so on.

Not sure where your complaints are from or about, but they seem more than just a little meritless. Unless you've got an example?
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