Tuesday, March 15th 2022
AMD Spring 2022 Ryzen Desktop Processor Update Includes Six New Models Besides 5800X3D
In addition to the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, which AMD claims to be the world's fastest gaming processor, AMD gave its desktop processor product-stack a major update, with as many as six other processor models spanning a wide range of price-points that help the company better compete with the bulk of the 12th Gen Core "Alder Lake" processor lineup. The new lineup sees the introduction of the Ryzen 7 5700X (not to be confused with the Ryzen 7 5700G). The 5700X is based on the same "Vermeer" multi-chip module (MCM) as the Ryzen 7 5800X, unlike the 5700G, which is a desktop APU based on the "Cezanne" monolithic silicon. Both "Vermeer" and "Cezanne" are based on the "Zen 3" microarchitecture.
The Ryzen 7 5700X is an 8-core/16-thread processor clocked at 3.40 GHz base and 4.60 GHz boost, compared to the 3.80 GHz base and 4.80 GHz boost frequency of the 5800X. Another key difference is its 65 W TDP, compared to 105 W of the 5800X, which could differentiate its boosting behavior and overclocking headroom compared to the 5800X. AMD is pricing the 5700X at USD $299 (MSRP), making it a competitor to the Intel Core i5-12600KF. Interestingly, the retail PIB (processor-in-box) package of the 5700X does not include a stock cooler despite its 65 W TDP. A 95 W-capable Wraith Spire wouldn't have hurt.
Next up, we have the Ryzen 5 5600 6-core/12-thread processor. This chip is the spiritual successor to the popular Ryzen 5 3600, despite AMD according that title to the 5600G APU. The 5600 is based on the same "Vermeer" MCM as the 5600X, and tones down on clock speeds. It runs at 3.50 GHz, with 4.40 GHz boost, compared to the 3.70/4.60 GHz clocks of the 5600X. The TDP is the same as the 5600X, at 65 W, and luckily, a Wraith Stealth cooler comes included. AMD is pricing the Ryzen 5 5600 at $199 (MSRP), pitting it against the likes of the Core i5-12500.
The Ryzen 5 5500 is a very interesting part. This 6-core/12-thread processor is based on the same "Cezanne" monolithic silicon as the Ryzen 5 5600G, but with its iGPU disabled. The "Cezanne" silicon physically features 16 MB of L3 cache that's shared among all CPU cores. The processor ticks at 3.60 GHz base, with 4.20 GHz boost. AMD is pricing the chip at $159, and its main competitor appears to be the Core i5-12400F.
Lastly, AMD launched a trio of Ryzen 4000 desktop processors for the first time in the retail channel. These are based on the 7 nm "Renoir" monolithic silicon, and feature "Zen 2" CPU cores. The lineup begins with the Ryzen 3 4100, a 4-core/8-thread chip at $99, and moves up to the Ryzen 5 4500, a 6-core/12-thread chip at $129. The highlight here is the Ryzen 5 4600G, a fully-fledged APU (including iGPU), with a 6-core/12-thread setup, at $154. Given the much lower IPC of the "Zen 2" cores compared to the "Golden Cove" ones in Core i3 "Alder Lake" series, it's hard to pinpoint what chips these compete with—perhaps leftover 10th Gen Core "Comet Lake" Core i3 and Core i5 inventory.
These processors will be generally available from April 4, 2022, while the 5800X3D comes on April 20.
The Ryzen 7 5700X is an 8-core/16-thread processor clocked at 3.40 GHz base and 4.60 GHz boost, compared to the 3.80 GHz base and 4.80 GHz boost frequency of the 5800X. Another key difference is its 65 W TDP, compared to 105 W of the 5800X, which could differentiate its boosting behavior and overclocking headroom compared to the 5800X. AMD is pricing the 5700X at USD $299 (MSRP), making it a competitor to the Intel Core i5-12600KF. Interestingly, the retail PIB (processor-in-box) package of the 5700X does not include a stock cooler despite its 65 W TDP. A 95 W-capable Wraith Spire wouldn't have hurt.
The Ryzen 5 5500 is a very interesting part. This 6-core/12-thread processor is based on the same "Cezanne" monolithic silicon as the Ryzen 5 5600G, but with its iGPU disabled. The "Cezanne" silicon physically features 16 MB of L3 cache that's shared among all CPU cores. The processor ticks at 3.60 GHz base, with 4.20 GHz boost. AMD is pricing the chip at $159, and its main competitor appears to be the Core i5-12400F.
Lastly, AMD launched a trio of Ryzen 4000 desktop processors for the first time in the retail channel. These are based on the 7 nm "Renoir" monolithic silicon, and feature "Zen 2" CPU cores. The lineup begins with the Ryzen 3 4100, a 4-core/8-thread chip at $99, and moves up to the Ryzen 5 4500, a 6-core/12-thread chip at $129. The highlight here is the Ryzen 5 4600G, a fully-fledged APU (including iGPU), with a 6-core/12-thread setup, at $154. Given the much lower IPC of the "Zen 2" cores compared to the "Golden Cove" ones in Core i3 "Alder Lake" series, it's hard to pinpoint what chips these compete with—perhaps leftover 10th Gen Core "Comet Lake" Core i3 and Core i5 inventory.
These processors will be generally available from April 4, 2022, while the 5800X3D comes on April 20.
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P.S. that's expensive gift wrapping! :eek:
Yes, there are legitimate sellers and manufacturers on Amazon too, but they're mostly drowned out by the e-waste scams that are fake products with false advertising and fake reviews.Of course they do! :)
"The world's fastest* gaming CPU"
*See Endnote R5K-107
Endnote R5K-107 says that internal games are a small selection that TPU readers will recognise as very favourable to AMD CPUs normally comprising the minority of victories Zen3 has over Alder Lake. Additionally the Alder Lake was using DDR5 which performs slightly worse in gaming than lower-latency DDR4.
Marketing departments never fail to twist the truth. I'm cautiously optimistic but let's wait for @W1zzard to test one for real.
www.amd.com/en/product/11826But not A320 !
for 5800X3D : www.amd.com/en/product/11576X370,B350 doesn't support.
But I am still curious to what the 3d-cashe does for the gaming performance. I mean the cashe has something to live up to, as 5800X3d is lower clocked compared to 5800X and if what I am told the 5800X3d is locked for oc, then it's a no go, even if it performance outstanding. Overclocking is part of my enjoyment with a pc.
videocardz.com/newz/amd-also-preparing-ryzen-5700-5100-and-4700-10-new-am4-cpus-planned-in-april
Now just have to hold out long enough until it's released before deciding what to buy.
For example, Ryzen 3 4100 is 4 MB cache according to the product page: www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-3-4100
The spec sheets sent to me by suppliers also say 4 MB.
All other listings are correct if they show L3 cache alone. The datasheets sent to me by distributors as well as AMD's various product pages state the following:
That 4100 is looking kinda limp in the cache department (combined with only PCIe 3.0), but you'll see the cache in the image matches the L3 cache exactly with all other SKUs.
The Ryzen 5 4600G stands out for me as it is... old? I was sent specs for it a year or two ago (unless this is for retail, it was specified as OEM/SI-only back then?).
I really like to see what this added cache will do for amd's very high memory latency
Latency goes down with higher cache clocks so not sure if cache amount will effect it in a positive way.
4100 99$
4500 129$
5500 159$
5600 199$
are absolute garbage for those prices:
Like the 4100 u get an outdated renoir which surely not compete against a 2 year old 10100F for 80$ on the 4500 its the same and its counterpart is a 2 year old 10400F for 135$.
Like a 5500 for 159$ which will be on pair on games with an 12100F for 100$.
The 5600 is the totaly hoax from Amd u could only buy the X for a long time and now u can get the X for about 200$, why should anyone take that non x for the same as release price.
Amd become from a not so bad company to a totally asshole company, even bader than intel ever was.
My First Amd was a Duron, my last is the A10 7870K.
As for these chips specifically, I expect the 4100 to quickly match the retail pricing of the 10100F, and the same for the 4500 vs the 10400F. You're also getting drastically better efficiency with these chips compared to anything Intel 14nm. That doesn't necessarily matter much if what you're going for is a gaming build, but they do have their own advantages nevertheless. It's also entirely possible that the i3-12100F matches the 5500's gaming performance, but with 2 fewer cores it's going to lag significantly in a lot of other tasks. Horses for courses, as the saying goes. More heavily threaded tasks will prefer the higher threaded chip. But for Zen4, I hope AMD diversifies their silicon and makes a lower core count CCD as well as the high core count one, so that they can more effectively compete in the low end - at this point they're forced to use older chips for that as they would otherwise need to disable fully functioning cores on larger chips, which just doesn't make economical sense in a market where they're selling every chip they can produce.
Yeah intel dropping 12900ks for 800.us before amd 3d chips is typical intel :laugh:
The ram is mediocre, hence only 3000mhz. 5600G also doesnt have that half write speed issue on RAM I have read about. Brilliant chip almost 40% ahead of 2600X and about 8% ahead of 3600X. With GT 1030 out of case now I am saving 20W power, which at 68W idle is significant, down to 45W now, about 30% less power for a system, on 24/7.