Tuesday, March 15th 2022

AMD Spring 2022 Ryzen Desktop Processor Update Includes Six New Models Besides 5800X3D

In addition to the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, which AMD claims to be the world's fastest gaming processor, AMD gave its desktop processor product-stack a major update, with as many as six other processor models spanning a wide range of price-points that help the company better compete with the bulk of the 12th Gen Core "Alder Lake" processor lineup. The new lineup sees the introduction of the Ryzen 7 5700X (not to be confused with the Ryzen 7 5700G). The 5700X is based on the same "Vermeer" multi-chip module (MCM) as the Ryzen 7 5800X, unlike the 5700G, which is a desktop APU based on the "Cezanne" monolithic silicon. Both "Vermeer" and "Cezanne" are based on the "Zen 3" microarchitecture.

The Ryzen 7 5700X is an 8-core/16-thread processor clocked at 3.40 GHz base and 4.60 GHz boost, compared to the 3.80 GHz base and 4.80 GHz boost frequency of the 5800X. Another key difference is its 65 W TDP, compared to 105 W of the 5800X, which could differentiate its boosting behavior and overclocking headroom compared to the 5800X. AMD is pricing the 5700X at USD $299 (MSRP), making it a competitor to the Intel Core i5-12600KF. Interestingly, the retail PIB (processor-in-box) package of the 5700X does not include a stock cooler despite its 65 W TDP. A 95 W-capable Wraith Spire wouldn't have hurt.
Next up, we have the Ryzen 5 5600 6-core/12-thread processor. This chip is the spiritual successor to the popular Ryzen 5 3600, despite AMD according that title to the 5600G APU. The 5600 is based on the same "Vermeer" MCM as the 5600X, and tones down on clock speeds. It runs at 3.50 GHz, with 4.40 GHz boost, compared to the 3.70/4.60 GHz clocks of the 5600X. The TDP is the same as the 5600X, at 65 W, and luckily, a Wraith Stealth cooler comes included. AMD is pricing the Ryzen 5 5600 at $199 (MSRP), pitting it against the likes of the Core i5-12500.

The Ryzen 5 5500 is a very interesting part. This 6-core/12-thread processor is based on the same "Cezanne" monolithic silicon as the Ryzen 5 5600G, but with its iGPU disabled. The "Cezanne" silicon physically features 16 MB of L3 cache that's shared among all CPU cores. The processor ticks at 3.60 GHz base, with 4.20 GHz boost. AMD is pricing the chip at $159, and its main competitor appears to be the Core i5-12400F.

Lastly, AMD launched a trio of Ryzen 4000 desktop processors for the first time in the retail channel. These are based on the 7 nm "Renoir" monolithic silicon, and feature "Zen 2" CPU cores. The lineup begins with the Ryzen 3 4100, a 4-core/8-thread chip at $99, and moves up to the Ryzen 5 4500, a 6-core/12-thread chip at $129. The highlight here is the Ryzen 5 4600G, a fully-fledged APU (including iGPU), with a 6-core/12-thread setup, at $154. Given the much lower IPC of the "Zen 2" cores compared to the "Golden Cove" ones in Core i3 "Alder Lake" series, it's hard to pinpoint what chips these compete with—perhaps leftover 10th Gen Core "Comet Lake" Core i3 and Core i5 inventory.

These processors will be generally available from April 4, 2022, while the 5800X3D comes on April 20.
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80 Comments on AMD Spring 2022 Ryzen Desktop Processor Update Includes Six New Models Besides 5800X3D

#1
Valantar
These look pretty good! Great to see competition returning to the low end CPU market - and of course kudos to Intel for putting pressure on AMD to compete here as well. Kind of weird to bring the 4600G to retail at this point, but ... yay? At least it's an excellent budget-ish APU - my 4650G is very snappy.
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#2
TheLostSwede
I think I'm going to have to snag the 5700X, as the 5800X3D is too pricey, unless it's really something in games.
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#3
chrcoluk
I got a 5600G yesterday and installed it today, I put my story in the other thread you made on the same subject swede :p

Here www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-said-to-be-releasing-no-less-than-four-new-ryzen-5000-series-chips-in-march.292657/post-4720262

Zen3 has a new memory protection instruction called PKU which is interesting.

Hopefully the 7000 series will have iGPU in every chip.

Compared to intel AMD are light years ahead on power consumption, pumping all cores, my entire system power is under 70w.
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#4
Chomiq
TheLostSwedeI think I'm going to have to snag the 5700X, as the 5800X3D is too pricey, unless it's really something in games.
Yeah it pretty much matches what I paid for my 3700x back when it was released and I don't want to step down in the number of cores/threads. Hopefully we'll see reviews soon.
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#5
5 o'clock Charlie
TheLostSwedeI think I'm going to have to snag the 5700X, as the 5800X3D is too pricey, unless it's really something in games.
For me, price is not as much of a concern compared to availability for the 5800X3D. I think it will be hard to get one upon release, though one can hope.
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#6
Rowsol
The 96mb cache is going to be beastly in games.
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#7
Selaya
no more prisms
Madge
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#8
80-watt Hamster
If this launch manages to push 5600G pricing down even further, there is a distinctly non-zero chance I'll build something around one just for the H of it.
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#9
N3M3515
I don't understand why amd does not release all of them ryzen 3. Why ryzen 2??
Is ryzen 3 too expensive to make??
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#10
Khonjel
Well, Ryzen 5 5500 is 6c12t actually, wow! I know cache is halved but still better than 6c6t rumor.
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#11
HD64G
N3M3515I don't understand why amd does not release all of them ryzen 3. Why ryzen 2??
Is ryzen 3 too expensive to make??
Left overs from binned chips that the iGPU wasn't good enough.
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#12
TheLostSwede
N3M3515I don't understand why amd does not release all of them ryzen 3. Why ryzen 2??
Is ryzen 3 too expensive to make??
Yes, because you're comparing chiplets vs. single chip CPUs. Also, a lot of them simply have the GPU disabled, so they're gimped versions of other chips technically speaking.
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#13
ThrashZone
5 o'clock CharlieFor me, price is not as much of a concern compared to availability for the 5800X3D. I think it will be hard to get one upon release, though one can hope.
Hi,
You can save a lot of money waiting 6 months usually
The 5950x is now down to 500.us instead of 750.us
5k series took longer to drop in price than other releases.
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#14
Denver
N3M3515I don't understand why amd does not release all of them ryzen 3. Why ryzen 2??
Is ryzen 3 too expensive to make??
Do you mean Zen3 ? Probably because there aren't enough faulty dies for it. These new zen2 processors are mobile chips(renoir) with faulty iGPU.
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#15
5 o'clock Charlie
ThrashZoneHi,
You can save a lot of money waiting 6 months usually
The 5950x is now down to 500.us instead of 750.us
5k series took longer to drop in price than other releases.
I have never seen the 5950X at $500 us. Best price I have seen is barely under $600 us. For the $449 price point, I could get a 5900X today. I bought my 5600X back in November 2020 for $300 us.
Like many others have said, I am curious about how much better is the 5800X3D is in games compared to their non-3D counterparts. I am not sure we will see numbers before release date on April 20th.
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#16
ThrashZone
5 o'clock CharlieI have never seen the 5950X at $500 us. Best price I have seen is barely under $600 us. For the $449 price point, I could get a 5900X today. I bought my 5600X back in November 2020 for $300 us.
Like many others have said, I am curious about how much better is the 5800X3D is in games compared to their non-3D counterparts. I am not sure we will see numbers before release date on April 20th.
Hi,
Last week I believe
www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/5950x-onsale-on-amazon-499.292491/

Not sure what this 300.us is for ?
A 5950x or just gift wrapping lol

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#17
Lenne
S.T.A.R.S.
I hope that the 5700X is priced at ~300EUR here, I'm not getting a third 6-core Ryzen (I had a 2600 & B450 before my current 3600).
ThrashZoneHi,
You can save a lot of money waiting 6 months usually
The 5950x is now down to 500.us instead of 750.us
5k series took longer to drop in price than other releases.
The cheapest 5950X is 650EUR here in Finland.
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#18
ThrashZone
MaenadFINI hope that the 5700X is priced at ~300EUR here, I'm not getting a third 6-core Ryzen (I had a 2600 & B450 before my current 3600).


The cheapest 5950X is 650EUR here in Finland.
Hi,
That's a drop none the less
5950x was stuck at 750.us at micro center for a long time and still out of stock.
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#19
Mistral
Hmm... Could grab a 5700X to replace my 3600 after the prices settle down post AM5 release.
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#20
Chrispy_
That looks like a rebranding exercise to me with almost half the list just +/-100MHz variants of the two-and-a-half year old Renoir models.

The 5500 is just a 5600G with a broken Vega IGP, kind of pointless for a desktop because the reduced cache hurts its IPC and there are other compromises to the infinity fabric and IMC clocks that were geared for energy efficiency in what was designed primarily as a laptop CPU.

Of the two Vermeer options, they don't really bring anything new to the table; The street price of the 5800X and 5600X have both fallen since Alder Lake launched, so it's not like this announcement massively increases the performance/$ of Zen3 right now. 5600X for $219 all over the place means that you're saving 9% on the CPU alone, likely more like 3-4% once you consider the platform of CPU/RAM/Motherboard/Cooler. Might as well get the faster CPU if you're only saving 3-4% as you get to use PBO+ with the X variant as well.

We're still waiting for the 5800X3D and until we get real-world benchmarks, nobody knows for sure whether it's going to beat Alder Lake; One has to assume that AMD cherry-picked benchmarks that show it in the best light. I think it will improve gaming IPC but it's definitey not going to be anywhere close to 50% faster than the 5700X, despite being 50% more expensive. Maybe 10-15% at best.
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#21
Lenne
S.T.A.R.S.
Chrispy_5600X for $219 all over the place
Depends on the country. The lowest price here is 260EUR.
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#22
Iain M Banks
Anyone seen leaked benchmarks for the x58003D yet? (Games or productivity - although early indications are it’s more gaming focused)

Im a generation behind 3700x and looking to drop on in my board if a new bios drop.

Anything?
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#23
Chrispy_
MaenadFINDepends on the country. The lowest price here is 260EUR.
Well sure, the country is the US as per the article quoting AMD's own prices in USD excluding taxes, which is the shockingly-obvious reason why I also compared the price in USD excluding taxes.

The fact that a 5600X is 260€ with tax for you or £192 with tax for me is kind of irrelevant because the article doesn't list non-US prices or include tax. AMD, Intel, and Nvidia never have and probably never will.
Iain M BanksAnyone seen leaked benchmarks for the x58003D yet? (Games or productivity - although early indications are it’s more gaming focused)

Im a generation behind 3700x and looking to drop on in my board if a new bios drop.

Anything?
Only the benchmarks AMD themselves have elected to show us in their slides. The only leaks I've seen have been all over the place, inconsistent, and therefore rather dubious. It's not due to launch for another 5 weeks, and you'll be lucky if you can get hold of one, or have BIOS support for an older board on day one.

What board do you have? With an X570 board you stand a strong chance of getting 5800X3D support but you might also just be better off getting a 5900X instead for around the same price. Don't forget, AMD have officially announced that the 5800X3D isn't overclockable, so you're stuck with the default TDP and clocks. Any advantage it has over a regular 5800X will be offset by the fact that you can enable PBO+ on a regular 5800X.

AMD's own slides show a median gain of 20% vs a 5800X in the games they cherry-picked for their slides. That's literally all we have for definite at the moment, other than a launch date of 20th April.
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#24
seth1911
The 5500 159$ will be on the Level of the 12100F for 100$ in Games. ;)
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#25
Iain M Banks
Chrispy_Well sure, the country is the US as per the article quoting AMD's own prices in USD excluding taxes, which is the shockingly-obvious reason why I also compared the price in USD excluding taxes.

The fact that a 5600X is 260€ with tax for you or £192 with tax for me is kind of irrelevant because the article doesn't list non-US prices or include tax. AMD, Intel, and Nvidia never have and probably never will.


Only the benchmarks AMD themselves have elected to show us in their slides. The only leaks I've seen have been all over the place, inconsistent, and therefore rather dubious. It's not due to launch for another 5 weeks, and you'll be lucky if you can get hold of one, or have BIOS support for an older board on day one.

What board do you have? With an X570 board you stand a strong chance of getting 5800X3D support but you might also just be better off getting a 5900X instead for around the same price. Don't forget, AMD have officially announced that the 5800X3D isn't overclockable, so you're stuck with the default TDP and clocks. Any advantage it has over a regular 5800X will be offset by the fact that you can enable PBO+ on a regular 5800X.

AMD's own slides show a median gain of 20% vs a 5800X in the games they cherry-picked for their slides. That's literally all we have for definite at the moment, other than a launch date of 20th April.
Thanks for the tips.

interesting


They claim world’s fastest now
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