Tuesday, March 15th 2022
AMD Spring 2022 Ryzen Desktop Processor Update Includes Six New Models Besides 5800X3D
In addition to the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, which AMD claims to be the world's fastest gaming processor, AMD gave its desktop processor product-stack a major update, with as many as six other processor models spanning a wide range of price-points that help the company better compete with the bulk of the 12th Gen Core "Alder Lake" processor lineup. The new lineup sees the introduction of the Ryzen 7 5700X (not to be confused with the Ryzen 7 5700G). The 5700X is based on the same "Vermeer" multi-chip module (MCM) as the Ryzen 7 5800X, unlike the 5700G, which is a desktop APU based on the "Cezanne" monolithic silicon. Both "Vermeer" and "Cezanne" are based on the "Zen 3" microarchitecture.
The Ryzen 7 5700X is an 8-core/16-thread processor clocked at 3.40 GHz base and 4.60 GHz boost, compared to the 3.80 GHz base and 4.80 GHz boost frequency of the 5800X. Another key difference is its 65 W TDP, compared to 105 W of the 5800X, which could differentiate its boosting behavior and overclocking headroom compared to the 5800X. AMD is pricing the 5700X at USD $299 (MSRP), making it a competitor to the Intel Core i5-12600KF. Interestingly, the retail PIB (processor-in-box) package of the 5700X does not include a stock cooler despite its 65 W TDP. A 95 W-capable Wraith Spire wouldn't have hurt.
Next up, we have the Ryzen 5 5600 6-core/12-thread processor. This chip is the spiritual successor to the popular Ryzen 5 3600, despite AMD according that title to the 5600G APU. The 5600 is based on the same "Vermeer" MCM as the 5600X, and tones down on clock speeds. It runs at 3.50 GHz, with 4.40 GHz boost, compared to the 3.70/4.60 GHz clocks of the 5600X. The TDP is the same as the 5600X, at 65 W, and luckily, a Wraith Stealth cooler comes included. AMD is pricing the Ryzen 5 5600 at $199 (MSRP), pitting it against the likes of the Core i5-12500.
The Ryzen 5 5500 is a very interesting part. This 6-core/12-thread processor is based on the same "Cezanne" monolithic silicon as the Ryzen 5 5600G, but with its iGPU disabled. The "Cezanne" silicon physically features 16 MB of L3 cache that's shared among all CPU cores. The processor ticks at 3.60 GHz base, with 4.20 GHz boost. AMD is pricing the chip at $159, and its main competitor appears to be the Core i5-12400F.
Lastly, AMD launched a trio of Ryzen 4000 desktop processors for the first time in the retail channel. These are based on the 7 nm "Renoir" monolithic silicon, and feature "Zen 2" CPU cores. The lineup begins with the Ryzen 3 4100, a 4-core/8-thread chip at $99, and moves up to the Ryzen 5 4500, a 6-core/12-thread chip at $129. The highlight here is the Ryzen 5 4600G, a fully-fledged APU (including iGPU), with a 6-core/12-thread setup, at $154. Given the much lower IPC of the "Zen 2" cores compared to the "Golden Cove" ones in Core i3 "Alder Lake" series, it's hard to pinpoint what chips these compete with—perhaps leftover 10th Gen Core "Comet Lake" Core i3 and Core i5 inventory.
These processors will be generally available from April 4, 2022, while the 5800X3D comes on April 20.
The Ryzen 7 5700X is an 8-core/16-thread processor clocked at 3.40 GHz base and 4.60 GHz boost, compared to the 3.80 GHz base and 4.80 GHz boost frequency of the 5800X. Another key difference is its 65 W TDP, compared to 105 W of the 5800X, which could differentiate its boosting behavior and overclocking headroom compared to the 5800X. AMD is pricing the 5700X at USD $299 (MSRP), making it a competitor to the Intel Core i5-12600KF. Interestingly, the retail PIB (processor-in-box) package of the 5700X does not include a stock cooler despite its 65 W TDP. A 95 W-capable Wraith Spire wouldn't have hurt.
The Ryzen 5 5500 is a very interesting part. This 6-core/12-thread processor is based on the same "Cezanne" monolithic silicon as the Ryzen 5 5600G, but with its iGPU disabled. The "Cezanne" silicon physically features 16 MB of L3 cache that's shared among all CPU cores. The processor ticks at 3.60 GHz base, with 4.20 GHz boost. AMD is pricing the chip at $159, and its main competitor appears to be the Core i5-12400F.
Lastly, AMD launched a trio of Ryzen 4000 desktop processors for the first time in the retail channel. These are based on the 7 nm "Renoir" monolithic silicon, and feature "Zen 2" CPU cores. The lineup begins with the Ryzen 3 4100, a 4-core/8-thread chip at $99, and moves up to the Ryzen 5 4500, a 6-core/12-thread chip at $129. The highlight here is the Ryzen 5 4600G, a fully-fledged APU (including iGPU), with a 6-core/12-thread setup, at $154. Given the much lower IPC of the "Zen 2" cores compared to the "Golden Cove" ones in Core i3 "Alder Lake" series, it's hard to pinpoint what chips these compete with—perhaps leftover 10th Gen Core "Comet Lake" Core i3 and Core i5 inventory.
These processors will be generally available from April 4, 2022, while the 5800X3D comes on April 20.
80 Comments on AMD Spring 2022 Ryzen Desktop Processor Update Includes Six New Models Besides 5800X3D
Try one CPU per socket ;)
/s
I have a couple of spare barebone 300 and 400 series amd boards, well not mine but my brothers old office stuff which isn't in use. It would be nice if I could pick up a snappy ~£100 APU for a spare machine in the home.
It would have been nice if I could pick up a used 3200G/2200G for £50'ish. Can't see that happening either.
www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/tomgang%C2%B4s-project-2-systems-in-1-case-all-air-cooled.283169/
There's no -G that tells you that it's a Cezanne, just because it doesn't have graphics. The 4000 may be inferior but at least you kind of get that from the number.
With the 5500 you're stuck with PCIE 3.
Let's go all out 2022 and build teH freshest rig ever together with a brand new Radeon 6500XT and BOOM you're stuck with PCIE 3.0 x4.
Did I mention it was all brand new from 2022? :shadedshu:
The celeron is useless with 2 cores / 2 threads, but the Pentium G7400 with HT will be a good counterpart with the 6500XT:fear:
Im sure in the future ull see the OEM Gaming PC with Amd Ryzen 5500, 16GB RAM and 6500XT :p
Don't have the funds to swap out everything and on top of that, I'm going to skip the next first gen platform from AMD.
Edit: nope, specs confirm 24/20 lanes of PCIe, i.e. the conventional x16 PEG + x4 m.2 + x4 chipset layout for the Ryzen 3 4100 (and the 4600G too).
It also shows up as Renoir in Linux for the lanes.
A little warning though, it seems on the G chips AMD segmented off some of the features to a PRO line, (I think OEM only), the 4x4x4x4x mode isnt available in bios (whatever that does) and no ACS either, However ASRock found a way to get the ACS level grouping back without ACS on my bios.
www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-5-pro-5650g
en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/cores/renoir
www.techpowerup.com/268747/amd-renoir-die-annotation-raises-hopes-of-desktop-chips-featuring-x16-peg
Probably they were mistakenly reported in some places as having only 8x PEG because the chips were more commonly found in laptops dunno
This rig is going to have to last me a couple of more years, as I have been an "early" adopter twice and it has been quite painful both times, as AMD has launched what I'd call beta platforms both times and it took about six months of UEFI and AGESA updates to make the systems work as intended and I'm not playing that game again, especially with the cost of everything else I would need to get.
450.us doesn't sound to bad to me if it's as good as amd states.
Intel just released a 800.us 12900ks for goodness sake :laugh:
My 1700 had issues with RAM compatibility that was never properly fixed, although that RAM didn't work right with my 3800X when I got it either so... Both systems "worked" but there were little things on both, like the 3800X not reaching the promised boost speeds for at least three months and even with different RAM it took them six months before everything was 100%. AMD needs to deliver more stable platforms at launch, as that kind of stuff is infuriating. That said, Intel seems to be following AMD's lead to a degree, by giving it's partners less time to develop boards for their new chips, which isn't a good sign, as it too lead to issues on launch.
5500 will cost the same or less than 12100F due to MB and perform better.
If you need PCIe 4.0, buy 3050, 6500/6600 gpu then 12100F is better, or if you buy Asus B660 rog F/G and bclk OC 12100F it will be faster, but price is high then (250usd MB + DDR5).
Sortof on the memory topic, I still do not fully grasp the reason why Intel decided to have two different memory modes (e.g. gear 1 & gear 2). From my reading, it runs the memory controller frequency either in full 1:1 or half frequency 1:2, so my guess more customization based on what the user's workload requires as both cater different results? I wonder if AMD will follow suit with their next platform? Thanks.
In the good old days, Intel used to make reference boards they handed out to the motherboard makers and then spend at least six months on helping the board makers finetune their designs, BIOSes and so on. Hence why Intel had quite stable platforms on launch. Now, not so much and the board makers aren't what you'd call thrilled about it. This isn't really public information though.
As for my shiny new 5800X, it works with XMP, first AMD CPU I've had that works with XMP, so that was a positive surprise. Still going to tune my RAM when I have five minutes to spare.