Monday, November 4th 2024

New Arm CPUs from NVIDIA Coming in 2025

According to DigiTimes, NVIDIA is reportedly targeting the high-end segment for its first consumer CPU attempt. Slated to arrive in 2025, NVIDIA is partnering with MediaTek to break into the AI PC market, currently being popularized by Qualcomm, Intel, and AMD. With Microsoft and Qualcomm laying the foundation for Windows-on-Arm (WoA) development, NVIDIA plans to join and leverage its massive ecosystem of partners to design and deliver regular applications and games for its Arm-based processors. At the same time, NVIDIA is also scheduled to launch "Blackwell" GPUs for consumers, which could end up in these AI PCs with an Arm CPU at its core.

NVIDIA's partner, MediaTek, has recently launched a big core SoC for mobile called Dimensity 9400. NVIDIA could use something like that as a base for its SoC and add its Blackwell IP to the mix. This would be similar to what Apple is doing with its Apple Silicon and the recent M4 Max chip, which is apparently the fastest CPU in single-threaded and multithreaded workloads, as per recent Geekbench recordings. For NVIDIA, the company already has a team of CPU designers that delivered its Grace CPU to enterprise/server customers. Using off-the-shelf Arm Neoverse IP, the company's customers are acquiring systems with Grace CPUs as fast as they are produced. This puts a lot of hope into NVIDIA's upcoming AI PC, which could offer a selling point no other WoA device currently provides, and that is tried and tested gaming-grade GPU with AI accelerators.
Sources: DigiTimes, via NotebookCheck
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54 Comments on New Arm CPUs from NVIDIA Coming in 2025

#1
AusWolf
I wonder how high end an ARM CPU can be especially if it's co-developed with MediaTek.
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#2
dj-electric
AusWolfI wonder how high end an ARM CPU can be especially if it's co-developed with MediaTek.
A quick look at an M(#) Ultra chip from Apple can give a pretty clear answer. Very high end.
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#3
Chomiq
Gotta milk that AI cow.
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#4
Dirt Chip
I use to have an NV motherboard with an AMD processor in it- Athlon 3200+.
Good old times...
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#5
LittleBro
MediaTek is spreading like a disease. Most of TVs and routers went for MediaTek SoCs, most of the cheaper (sub $300) phones come with MediaTek SoCs. Some brands reserve Qualcomm SoCs for their top line only. Maybe it will be just a matter of time before US bans MediaTek stuff after Huawei's. I never thought that Nvidia would partner up with such lowcost SoC maker as MediaTek.

I personally don't trust MediaTek. Their market share rose extremely quickly and their chips have vulnerabilities.
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#6
Onasi
@LittleBro
My brother in Christ, MediaTek is a Taiwanese company, not Chinese one. They have been around for almost 30 years and have their chips in tons of stuff. There is nothing to be worried about with them. And low-cost? Their Dimensity SoCs have been trading blow with Snapdragon for a while now.
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#7
LittleBro
Onasi@LittleBro
My brother in Christ, MediaTek is a Taiwanese company, not Chinese one. They have been around for almost 30 years and have their chips in tons of stuff. There is nothing to be worried about with them. And low-cost? Their Dimensity SoCs have been trading blow with Snapdragon for a while now.
I am worried when critical vulnerabilities are not being fixed over time. Yes, all companies have problems, but there's a fix within a month or sooner usually.

As it's a way to maximize your incomes, I understand that Nvidia might have chosen MediaTek beucase they can provide similar performance and much cheaper than Qualcomm. However, that might strike back on them with security issues. Question on Taiwan's independence yields many answers, depens who you ask.
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#8
Onasi
LittleBroI am worried when critical vulnerabilities are not being fixed over time. Yes, all companies have problems, but there's a fix within a month or sooner usually.
MediaTek fixes the vulnerabilities just fine if they are related to their hardware. It’s on device vendors to roll out firmware updates promptly. I have no idea what one has to do with the other.
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#9
AusWolf
LittleBroI am worried when critical vulnerabilities are not being fixed over time. Yes, all companies have problems, but there's a fix within a month or sooner usually.

As it's a way to maximize your incomes, I understand that Nvidia might have chosen MediaTek beucase they can provide similar performance and much cheaper than Qualcomm. However, that might strike back on them with security issues. Question on Taiwan's independence yields many answers, depens who you ask.
I've seen reports of a bazillion vulnerabilities on all hardware platforms through the years, but I've yet to hear about a single case of anyone having been hacked using any of these vulnerabilities.
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#10
Assimilator
dj-electricA quick look at an M(#) Ultra chip from Apple can give a pretty clear answer. Very high end.
:roll:

High-end if the only thing you work on is spreadsheets, yeah.
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#11
R0H1T
dj-electricA quick look at an M(#) Ultra chip from Apple can give a pretty clear answer. Very high end.
Apple numbers are an anomaly; they're also really kind of inflated because of Mac OS. Not saying they're cheating on these benches, although they could be on some of them, but in general, the (extra) gains you see on Mac will not be realized on Windows/linux because of how closely knit the Apple ecosystem is!
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#12
AusWolf
Assimilator:roll:

High-end if the only thing you work on is spreadsheets, yeah.
Or if following smooth menu transitions with your eyeballs is your favourite hobby. :laugh:
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#13
dj-electric
Assimilator:roll:

High-end if the only thing you work on is spreadsheets, yeah.
They are actually quite phenomenal in video editing. Lots of heavy lifting is done on silicon to enable proper acceleration.
I'm no apple user, but a giant stone has to be lifted from over those who think people use macs for spreadsheets and document writing. They are multimedia workhorses
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#14
AnarchoPrimitiv
Nvidia needs to be trust busted and broken up...I'm 100% serious
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#15
Onasi
AusWolfOr if following smooth menu transitions with your eyeballs is your favourite hobby. :laugh:
MFW I turn off animations on any OS I have ever used. Welp, that’s it then, endgame is here, no more CPU updates are ever necessary.
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#16
AusWolf
OnasiMFW I turn off animations on any OS I have ever used. Welp, that’s it then, endgame is here, no more CPU updates are ever necessary.
I tried to crack a joke on the closed (and in my opinion, limited) ecosystem that iOS is. I guess it misfired. :ohwell:
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#17
Onasi
@AusWolf
Jokes on you then - I turn off animations on my iPhone too.
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#18
tpuuser256
I had a gut feeling this was going to happen.
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#19
chodaboy19
I wonder why Nvidia isn't using their own Tegra/Grace CPU IP? Is the MediaTek Dimensity IP so far ahead? Or is it more about cost/efficiency?
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#20
L'Eliminateur
I welcome the day when we get big socketed nvidia desktop CPUs, but i don't think it's a market they even care.

I mean they might even sell you a combo soldered CPU+GPU just like grace hopper, which would practically be a soldered full motherboard and rake the profits
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#21
freeagent
If they can smack around Intel and AMD, sure why not..
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#22
Gooigi's Ex
While you’re on your AI high NVidia, go ahead and make a gaming APU with an 8 core CPU with a heavily undervolted 4060ti on true 4nm for the handheld market. AMD playing around too much and need some fire to make some moves.
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#23
Psyclown
Nvidia making CPUs and intel making GPUs! MASS HYSTERIA!!!
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#24
TheinsanegamerN
L'EliminateurI welcome the day when we get big socketed nvidia desktop CPUs, but i don't think it's a market they even care.

I mean they might even sell you a combo soldered CPU+GPU just like grace hopper, which would practically be a soldered full motherboard and rake the profits
If they pushed performance like they do GPUs, itd be interesting, as they have consistently moved the performance bar up every generation.

Cant be worse than any other intel generation.
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#25
QUANTUMPHYSICS
Nvidia pulling off CPU would basically mean the end of Intel and AMD.
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