Tuesday, September 9th 2025

Apple Debuts iPhone 17

Apple today announced iPhone 17, featuring the new Center Stage front camera that takes selfies to the next level; a powerful 48MP Fusion Main camera with an optical-quality 2x Telephoto; and a new 48MP Fusion Ultra Wide camera that captures expansive scenes and macrophotography in more detail. The 6.3-inch Super Retina XDR display with ProMotion is bigger and brighter, enabling super smooth scrolling, immersive gaming, and improved efficiency. And with the new Ceramic Shield 2, the front cover is tougher than any smartphone glass or glass-ceramic, with 3x better scratch resistance than the previous generation and reduced glare. It is all powered by the latest-generation A19 chip for higher performance and longevity.

iPhone 17 will now be available starting with 256 GB of storage—double the entry storage from the previous generation—and a 512 GB option, in five beautiful colors: black, lavender, mist blue, sage, and white. Pre-orders begin Friday, September 12, with availability beginning Friday, September 19.
"iPhone 17 is a big upgrade with powerful features that make iPhone even more useful in your day-to-day life, from the bigger and brighter ProMotion display with 3x better scratch resistance, to all-day battery life with faster charging, the A19 chip for powerful performance, a fantastic 48MP Dual Fusion camera system, and the innovative Center Stage front camera—our best front camera yet," said Kaiann Drance, Apple's vice president of Worldwide iPhone Product Marketing. "iPhone 17 is a fantastic choice for customers looking for the latest features and the confidence in knowing their iPhone is built to last."

A Powerful Camera System for Next-Level Selfies and High-Resolution Captures
iPhone 17 introduces an all-new Center Stage front camera that advances the photo and video experience. The Center Stage front camera features the first square front camera sensor on iPhone, offering a wider field of view and higher resolution—up to 18MP for photos—to capture more detail. Users no longer have to rotate their iPhone to take a landscape selfie—they can now take photos and videos in portrait or landscape while holding their iPhone vertically, enabling a more comfortable, secure grip and centered gaze. For group shots, Center Stage for photos uses AI to automatically expand the field of view and can rotate from portrait to landscape to include everyone in the frame. The Center Stage front camera enables ultra-stabilized video in 4K HDR, and users can now record on the front and rear cameras simultaneously with Dual Capture—perfect for capturing themselves and the world around them. During calls over FaceTime or third-party apps, Center Stage for video calls keeps users stable and positioned in frame.

iPhone 17 features all 48MP rear cameras for the first time, to capture impressive photos and videos. A 48MP Fusion Main camera shoots sharp detail, and with an integrated optical-quality 2x Telephoto—it is like having two cameras in one. A new 48MP Fusion Ultra Wide camera captures up to 4x the resolution compared to the previous generation, so users get even more detail for uniquely framed, wider-angle shots or macrophotography. Next-generation Photographic Styles help users customize their photos by adjusting color, highlights, and shadows in real time with a better understanding of skin tones, and a new Bright style will be available with iOS 26 to brighten skin tones and apply a pop of vibrance across the image.
iPhone 17 records stunning video in 4K60 FPS Dolby Vision with creative features, such as Cinematic mode and Action mode. Video is captured with Spatial Audio for immersive listening; Audio Mix lets users adjust sound after capture to boost voices and reduce ambient noise; and wind noise reduction minimizes unwanted noise. iPhone 17 can also take spatial photos and videos to help users relive memories with remarkable depth on Apple Vision Pro.

A Beautiful and Durable Design with a Pro Display
iPhone 17 introduces major display improvements with a sleek contoured edge design. Available in one 6.3-inch size, iPhone 17 has thinner borders than the previous generation and a stunning Super Retina XDR display, featuring ProMotion with an adaptive refresh rate of up to 120 Hz for a smooth and power-efficient experience. The Always-On display shows the time, widgets, and Live Activities at a glance, and when not in use, the display efficiently adjusts down to 1 Hz.

iPhone 17 introduces Ceramic Shield 2 with a new Apple-designed coating for 3x better scratch resistance and improved anti-reflection to reduce glare. It is also easy to use iPhone 17 outside thanks to 3000 nits peak outdoor brightness—the highest ever on iPhone—and 2x better outdoor contrast.

A19: Next-Level Performance and All-Day Battery Life
Built on third-generation 3-nanometer technology, A19 delivers powerful performance, efficiency, and a huge boost in speed. An updated display engine, ISP, and Apple Neural Engine power features like Apple Intelligence and the latest-generation Photographic Styles. The 6-core CPU is 1.5x faster than the A15 Bionic chip in iPhone 13, and the 5-core GPU is more than 2x faster than A15 Bionic, unlocking stunning graphics and next-level mobile gaming. Neural Accelerators are also built into each GPU core to help run powerful generative AI models on device.

The efficiency of A19 and the advanced power management of iOS 26 deliver all-day battery life, and with ProMotion, iPhone 17 gets up to 30 hours of video playback—eight more hours than the previous generation. The new Adaptive Power Mode in iOS 26 also gets to know a user's typical battery consumption and anticipates when they might run low, intelligently conserving power to help get them through the day. And, iPhone 17 can charge up to 50 percent in 20 minutes with an optional high-wattage USB-C power adapter like Apple's new 40 W Dynamic Power Adapter with 60 W Max.

iPhone 17 introduces N1, a new Apple-designed wireless networking chip that enables Wi-Fi 7, Bluetooth 6, and Thread. In addition to the latest generation of wireless technologies, N1 improves the overall performance and reliability of features like Personal Hotspot and AirDrop.

eSIM: A Flexible, Convenient, and Secure Connection
eSIM is a digital SIM that offers greater flexibility, better security, and seamless connectivity compared to traditional physical SIM cards. An industry standard, eSIM is supported by over 500 global carriers, including AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, and more. An eSIM-only iPhone 17 model will be available in Bahrain, Canada, Guam, Japan, Kuwait, Mexico, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, the U.S., and the U.S. Virgin Islands. eSIM also makes staying connected while traveling even more convenient, allowing continued connectivity through affordable international roaming plans from users' home carriers or local prepaid options available with more than 200 carriers. For better security, eSIM cannot be physically removed if an iPhone is lost or stolen, and managing travel eSIMs is even easier with a new streamlined setup in iOS 26.

Featuring iOS 26 with New Apple Intelligence Capabilities
iOS 26 elevates the iPhone experience with a beautiful new design, powerful Apple Intelligence capabilities, and meaningful improvements to the apps users rely on every day. The new design with Liquid Glass makes apps and system experiences more expressive and delightful, bringing greater focus to content while keeping iOS instantly familiar. Apple Intelligence now translates text and audio on the go with Live Translation, helping users communicate across languages in Messages, FaceTime, and Phone. Updates to visual intelligence allow users to capture a screenshot and easily search or take action on anything they're viewing on their iPhone screen. The on-device foundation model at the core of Apple Intelligence is available to all developers, with apps already offering new intelligent, privacy-protected experiences that can even be used when offline. New screening tools for calls and messages help eliminate distractions so users can focus on the conversations that matter most. iOS 26 also introduces new features in CarPlay, Apple Music, Maps, and Wallet, as well as Apple Games, a brand-new app that gives players a single destination for all their games.
Beautiful New Accessories
In addition to the iPhone 17 Clear Case with MagSafe, a Silicone Case with MagSafe will be available in five colors: black, neon yellow, light moss, anchor blue, and purple fog. The Silicone Case with MagSafe can be paired with the new Crossbody Strap, giving users a hands-free way to wear iPhone. Crafted from 100 percent recycled yarns, the smooth strap drapes comfortably, with embedded flexible magnets and stainless steel sliding mechanisms to easily adjust the length and keep both straps securely aligned. The Crossbody Strap will be available in 10 colors: black, light gray, blue, light blue, purple, sienna, green, neon yellow, tan, and orange.
iPhone 17 and the Environment
Apple 2030 is the company's ambitious plan to be carbon neutral across its entire footprint by the end of this decade by reducing product emissions from their three biggest sources: materials, electricity, and transportation. iPhone 17 is made with 30 percent recycled content, including 85 percent recycled aluminium in the enclosure and 100 percent recycled cobalt in the battery. It is manufactured with 35 percent renewable electricity, like wind and solar, across the supply chain. iPhone 17 is also designed to be durable, repairable, and offers industry-leading software support, while meeting Apple's high standards for energy efficiency and safe chemistry. The paper packaging is 100 percent fiber-based and can be easily recycled.

Pricing and Availability
  • iPhone 17 will be available in lavender, mist blue, sage, white, and black in 256 GB and 512 GB storage capacities. iPhone 17 starts at $799 (U.S.) or $33.29 (U.S.) per month.
  • Apple offers great ways to save and upgrade to the latest iPhone models. With Apple Trade In, customers can get $200 to $700 (U.S.) in credits when they trade in iPhone 13 or newer. Apple also partners with select carriers to offer incredible deals, and customers can get up to $1,100 (U.S.) in credits when they trade in iPhone 13 or newer—in any condition—to put toward iPhone 17 Pro. Customers can take advantage of carrier deals by visiting the Apple Store online or an Apple Store location. For carrier deal eligibility requirements and more details, see apple.com/shop/buy-iphone/carrier-offers. To see what their device is worth and for trade-in terms and conditions, customers can visit apple.com/shop/trade-in.
  • Customers in more than 63 countries and regions, including Australia, Canada, China, Colombia, France, Germany, India, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, Singapore, South Korea, Thailand, Türkiye, the UAE, the UK, the U.S., and Vietnam, will be able to pre-order iPhone 17 beginning at 5 a.m. PDT this Friday, September 12, with availability beginning Friday, September 19. iPhone 17 will be available in 22 other countries and regions beginning Friday, September 26.
  • iOS 26 will be available as a free software update on Monday, September 15. Some features may not be available in all languages or regions, and availability may vary due to local laws and regulations. For more information about availability, visit apple.com.
  • Apple Intelligence is available in beta with support for these languages: English, French, German, Italian, Portuguese (Brazil), Spanish, Chinese (simplified), Japanese, and Korean. More languages will be coming by the end of this year: Danish, Dutch, Norwegian, Portuguese (Portugal), Swedish, Turkish, Chinese (traditional), and Vietnamese. Some features may not be available in all regions or languages. For feature and language availability and system requirements, see support.apple.com/en-us/121115.
  • Apple is extending free access to satellite features for an additional year for existing iPhone 14 and iPhone 15 users. The free trial will be extended for iPhone 14 and iPhone 15 users who have activated their device in a country that supports Apple's satellite features prior to 12 a.m. PT on September 9, 2025. For satellite feature availability, visit support.apple.com/en-us/105097.
  • In addition to an iPhone 17 Clear Case, available for $49 (U.S.), a Silicone Case with MagSafe will be available for $49 (U.S.) and a Crossbody Strap will be available for $59 (U.S.). FineWoven Wallet with MagSafe will be available for $59 (U.S.) in black, navy, midnight, purple, fox orange, and moss.
  • The Apple-designed 40 W Dynamic Power Adapter with 60 W Max will be available for $39 (U.S.), and a Qi2 25 W-certified MagSafe Charger will be available in a 1-meter length for $39 (U.S.) or a 2-meter length for $49 (U.S.).
  • AppleCare delivers exceptional service and support, with flexible options for Apple users. Customers can choose AppleCare+ to cover their new iPhone, or in the U.S., AppleCare One to protect multiple products in one simple plan. Both plans include coverage for accidents like drops and spills, theft and loss protection on eligible products, battery replacement service, and 24/7 support from Apple Experts. For more information, visit apple.com/applecare.
  • iCloud+ plans start at just $0.99 (U.S.) per month, providing additional storage to keep photos, videos, files, and more safe in the cloud and accessible across devices. iCloud+ also gives access to premium features such as event creation in the Apple Invites app, as well as Private Relay, Hide My Email, Custom Email Domains, and HomeKit Secure Video. With Family Sharing, users can share their subscription with five other family members at no extra cost.
  • Customers who purchase iPhone 17 may receive three free months of Apple Arcade, Apple Fitness+, Apple Music, Apple News+, and Apple TV+, with a new subscription. Offer and services availability varies by region. See apple.com/promo for details.
Source: Apple
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45 Comments on Apple Debuts iPhone 17

#26
L'Eliminateur
GodisanAtheistI'm a little surprised anyone even cares about phone releases anymore. The major innovative steps are behind us and now it feels like phones are just last year's rectangle +10% on the specs. Super commoditized, it doesn't really matter what you get it's all going to have roughly the same functionality in the same form factor with largely the same performance.

I've been running my 4 year old $300 used Pixel 4a 5G on a cheap BYOP plan and really have no reason at all to upgrade (and only really upgraded previously because the depreciation of 4G/LTE). Outside of the standard upgrade itch I can't really think of anything I really *need* to get a new phone for.
My upgrade cycle for phones is around 7+ years or if they break the screen/glass and it's too expensive to replace or if it gets too sluggish, if it runs whatsapp, maps and takes photos that's more than enough.
90% of my photos are technical pictures for work, certainly some new camera features were welcome for me, like optical zoom, wide camera, better stabilization and better image formats, as the real megapixel count did not change because if you enable the full resolution you lose all enhancements and extra stuff, so my photos remain at 12 mpx as before.
i went from a nokia 925 (loved it) to a s8+ weeks after the S9 came out and was using the s8+ until last year when i bought a S24+, it was already getting very sluggish and bothering my daily usage
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#27
starfals
Cool and all, but i just cant get excited for any phone anymore. My almost 2 year old 300 bucks phone does everything, it even has 200MP camera, which is pretty insane and amazing. Battery is huge, display is huge, 120hz, and colorful/bright... what else.. i got tons of ram and space on it. You wanna excite me? Put the 3.5 jack back on phones and i might start gettin into them again haha.

People are nutts to be buying anything past 300 imho lol. Why? Cus i had a 1k phone, 1 drop and it broke forever. YES 1 DROP. Then i got another 1... it died on the 2 drop, it was even advertised as harder to break lol. Just gonna get cheaper phones till they break and die. If its all the same, id rather break 200-300 dollar phones, the 1k ones are really annoying. Maybe if they truly made them hard to destroy, that would be interesting, but even then... i dont see anything too exciting on them that my phone dont do. My friend has the new flagships and his and my pics are identical, lol. My phone dont lag, his phone dont lag, i play all the new games, he does too. Same same same, but 300 vs 1000. Even mid-range phones are insane nowadays, and they eat up the market of the flagships. Imagine RTX 5070 being just as good as 5090, just a little off. Yeah, its that kind of thing. Ofc, Nvidia would never ever do that.
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#28
irisChronomia
The 6-core CPU is 1.5x faster than the A15 Bionic chip in iPhone 13, and the 5-core GPU is more than 2x faster than A15 Bionic
I can't be the only one that finds this line hilarious; I get it that maybe the phone is targeting 13/SE3 users' as an upgrade, but Apple comparing the same old chip for (iirc,) 3 straight generations (A17 onwards) feels amusing.
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#29
TheinsanegamerN
To me the biggest upgrade here is the charging speed. FINALLY apple moves away fromt he glacial 20w charging speed android left behind 5+ years ago.

Now, the question is what voltages does Apple use? Are they the same as USB-PD or is Apple being a special boi again?
dgianstefaniIt's because UFS 4.0 compatible flash doesn't come in 128 GB sizes.
Right....but the implication here is that instead of doing what Apple did, which is to make 256GB the base model for the same price 128GB used to be, Google keeps the 128GB slow option and forces you to pay to upgrade to 256GB.

The pixel 10 256GB should be the baseline, for the price they are selling the 128GB for.
L'EliminateurMy upgrade cycle for phones is around 7+ years or if they break the screen/glass and it's too expensive to replace or if it gets too sluggish, if it runs whatsapp, maps and takes photos that's more than enough.
90% of my photos are technical pictures for work, certainly some new camera features were welcome for me, like optical zoom, wide camera, better stabilization and better image formats, as the real megapixel count did not change because if you enable the full resolution you lose all enhancements and extra stuff, so my photos remain at 12 mpx as before.
i went from a nokia 925 (loved it) to a s8+ weeks after the S9 came out and was using the s8+ until last year when i bought a S24+, it was already getting very sluggish and bothering my daily usage
I usually run mine to failure. My moto z and moto G both made it about 4 years before a radio and battery failure, respectively. My current Thinkphone likely has another 3 years left in it, but with Google clamping down on sideloading apps and pissing me off with the newest version of android, I may go back to Apple instead.
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#30
irisChronomia
TheinsanegamerNbut with Google [...] pissing me off with the newest version of android, I may go back to Apple instead.
I'd unsarcastically like to hear how Google managed to make Android 16 to suck even more than 11-15.
AOSP since 10+ pissed me off so hard that I switched to Apple.
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#31
PLAfiller
RejZoRThese days you buy a flagship and just grind it to an end while having great experience the entire time. Coz buying budget phones every 2-3 years just means you perpetually have awful experience because weak phones age way faster and are not great from get go where flagships don't really age much.
I get your point, but budget is budget. Let's say you rock on it for five years, €1000/5 = €200 a year / 12 = ~€17 a month. If you don't have the money, you would need an impeccable fiscal discipline to save up from flagship to flagship, otherwise you'd be one of those people that take a credit just to buy a phone.....
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#32
FoulOnWhite
PLAfillerI get your point, but budget is budget. Let's say you rock on it for five years, €1000/5 = €200 a year / 12 = ~€17 a month. If you don't have the money, you would need an impeccable fiscal discipline to save up from flagship to flagship, otherwise you'd be one of those people that take a credit just to buy a phone.....
A lot of my freinds just end up of ridiculous contracts (£60+/M for 2 or 3 years) to get the high end phone. Not me, screw that
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#33
colossusrageblack
cvaldesI will point out that much of this planet actually spends a considerable amount of their time on public transit, to and from work; we have been over this countless times before.
In the U.S., only about 5% of workers use public transit to get to work, while the majority drive. In Europe, rates vary, Germany is ~11%, the UK ~15%, and it’s higher in cities like London. Asian cities tend to be much higher, like Hong Kong at 77%, Seoul at 66%, etc.
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#34
dgianstefani
TPU Proofreader
irisChronomiaI'd unsarcastically like to hear how Google managed to make Android 16 to suck even more than 11-15.
AOSP since 10+ pissed me off so hard that I switched to Apple.
Sadly the solution I've used for years on my 512 GB S10+ and now 1 TB S25U (Nova Launcher Pro and ADB debloat/sideload) are 1. Ended development and 2. About to be limited.

Still, there should be a way to configure, definitely better than the walled garden of 'no' from Apple.
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#35
RejZoR
FoulOnWhiteA lot of my freinds just end up of ridiculous contracts (£60+/M for 2 or 3 years) to get the high end phone. Not me, screw that
I only had phone through contract once and I didn't benefit from it at all because I didn't have some ridiculous plan that costs 50€ a month. Now I'm on some hyper cheap plan for 11€ a month and I just buy phones retail with no contract.
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#36
TheinsanegamerN
irisChronomiaI'd unsarcastically like to hear how Google managed to make Android 16 to suck even more than 11-15.
AOSP since 10+ pissed me off so hard that I switched to Apple.
The biggest one for me this version is both the clock and phone. On previous versions, when you got a phone call, you could swipe to the right anywhere near the vicinity of the button to actually answer the call, or left to hand up. Now, you MUST click the button itself and slide it. Very annoying when you cannot see the screen immediately, or you try to do it one handed.

The clock is even worse. Used to be you could swipe to snooze the alarm, now you must push a button. So now, to snooze, I have to get up and look at the thing. My work iphone does that, and I greatly dislike it, now Google has decided that this is better. You also have to tap through a menu to adjust the time on an alarm, where it used to be 1 tap, it is now 3. Not hard, but very annoying and for no benefit to the end user.

The spam filter in the phone app is also messed up. I've been getting way more spam the last few weeks, and despite being "suspected spam" they sit there and ring, I have to manually assign each number as "spam" to get them to stop. This wasnt an issue on 15.

The big imposing future one is the crackdown on sideloading and non store apps. I have several apps that are unsupported that I still use, all of which will end up banhammered, along with a pirated one (screw you subset I am NOT paying $10 a month to netflix for into the breach) and the full version of adguard. Cant imagine that last one will stick around once google gets the power to banhammer any dev they dont like permanently.
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#37
FoulOnWhite
RejZoRI only had phone through contract once and I didn't benefit from it at all because I didn't have some ridiculous plan that costs 50€ a month. Now I'm on some hyper cheap plan for 11€ a month and I just buy phones retail with no contract.
That's what i do, i can switch my phone whenever ilike, only difference is i don't have a contract.
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#38
trsttte
dgianstefaniIt's because UFS 4.0 compatible flash doesn't come in 128 GB sizes.
Tecnically it does, mainly for the automotive market, but it's not like they couldn't just offer 256gb as a base model. I doubt the cost saving and profit they get from this penny pinching will be bigger than the cost of designing, validating and producing a separate variant of the phone.
TheinsanegamerNAre they the same as USB-PD or is Apple being a special boi again?
Probably yes, they were threatened by the EU to not even toe the line when it comes to breaking USB-C inter-operability (Nintendo needs to get the same treatment coffcoff). Even with mac computers they have been better at following the standard than the likes of Dell, HP and HP.
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#39
remixedcat
TheinsanegamerNThe biggest one for me this version is both the clock and phone. On previous versions, when you got a phone call, you could swipe to the right anywhere near the vicinity of the button to actually answer the call, or left to hand up. Now, you MUST click the button itself and slide it. Very annoying when you cannot see the screen immediately, or you try to do it one handed.

The clock is even worse. Used to be you could swipe to snooze the alarm, now you must push a button. So now, to snooze, I have to get up and look at the thing. My work iphone does that, and I greatly dislike it, now Google has decided that this is better. You also have to tap through a menu to adjust the time on an alarm, where it used to be 1 tap, it is now 3. Not hard, but very annoying and for no benefit to the end user.

The spam filter in the phone app is also messed up. I've been getting way more spam the last few weeks, and despite being "suspected spam" they sit there and ring, I have to manually assign each number as "spam" to get them to stop. This wasnt an issue on 15.

The big imposing future one is the crackdown on sideloading and non store apps. I have several apps that are unsupported that I still use, all of which will end up banhammered, along with a pirated one (screw you subset I am NOT paying $10 a month to netflix for into the breach) and the full version of adguard. Cant imagine that last one will stick around once google gets the power to banhammer any dev they dont like permanently.
google literally only copies the worst things about apple, and now the sideloading shit too. all in the name of "security" or "think of the children" bullshit they use to manipulate people... I'm so sick of being told what I can and can't do with a phone I bought w my own damn money!
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#40
Prima.Vera
GodisanAtheistI'm a little surprised anyone even cares about phone releases anymore. The major innovative steps are behind us and now it feels like phones are just last year's rectangle +10% on the specs. Super commoditized, it doesn't really matter what you get it's all going to have roughly the same functionality in the same form factor with largely the same performance.

I've been running my 4 year old $300 used Pixel 4a 5G on a cheap BYOP plan and really have no reason at all to upgrade (and only really upgraded previously because the depreciation of 4G/LTE). Outside of the standard upgrade itch I can't really think of anything I really *need* to get a new phone for.
Exactly.
Bingo.
On point.
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#41
remixedcat
Prima.VeraExactly.
Bingo.
On point.
Same. I'm fine with my s22 plus and the only thing I need is more disk space but I have vpn and my own 16tb storage server so that helps
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#42
mesaprotector
The new iPhone looks basically identical to the 16. The Air is pretty though I still don't get the obsession with thinness. The Pro looks weird, but I'm sure people will get used to it. The color choices for all are good, better than last year. I'm still not getting one, though.

I've long accepted I don't understand people and their smartphones. I have an old Pentax camera that takes better photos than any iPhone, and my 2-year-old $150 Samsung with 3GB of RAM performs acceptably for everything I actually need it to do.
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#43
FoulOnWhite
mesaprotectorThe new iPhone looks basically identical to the 16. The Air is pretty though I still don't get the obsession with thinness. The Pro looks weird, but I'm sure people will get used to it. The color choices for all are good, better than last year. I'm still not getting one, though.

I've long accepted I don't understand people and their smartphones. I have an old Pentax camera that takes better photos than any iPhone, and my 2-year-old $150 Samsung with 3GB of RAM performs acceptably for everything I actually need it to do.
Exactly why you don't see paps using a phone to take pics, a proper camera will always be better.
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#44
GodisanAtheist
FoulOnWhiteExactly why you don't see paps using a phone to take pics, a proper camera will always be better.
- The issue with a proper camera is you have to be planning on using it. If life spontaneously happens and you want to snap a pic, your phone is always going to be there. Your DSLR isn't.

I've even given up on DSLR's for travel photography. Paints a huge "I'm a tourist, take advantage of me" target on your back and its just bulky and inconvenient to haul all over the place for family memories.

I'd rather live in the moment and lose some marginal (I know, crucify me) photo quality.
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#45
RejZoR
phintsYes you saw it right and I agree. Currently using a 16P but wouldn't buy a Pro again total waste of money, the 17P is no longer made of titanium either. Base iPhone is relevant again with the 1-120Hz display.
I loved my iPhone XR, but yeah 60Hz display was a bit annoying but I actually liked single camera. No thinking if I want wide or telephoto, you just point and shoot, zero thinking. Still have it, waiting to be passed to my dad who doesn't really need a smartphone, but it's hard to find small ones these days and I can't justify buying an iPhone Mini or Zenfone (mini?) for what he needs it. XR is still the "small" phone and it's worth nothing if I try to sell it. It's impossible to find a small cheap phone because they are all freaking 7 inch tablets now the cheaper you go.

If I was buying iPhone again now, I'd totally go with iPhone 17 vanilla. They improved the display and as mentioned above, less cameras isn't necessarily bad thing. And it'll make consistently good quality photos no matter what and that's what people like the most. A camera you can depend on in any conditions without being best of the best of the best. With honors! I just want it to be fast, reliable and consistently good. I've had cheaper phones before and they were all over the place and with huge discrepancies between regular and wide camera in terms of quality.

I do wonder how much iPhone 17 will cost here in € when VAT is included. $799 sounds cool in US sheckles, but when you slap VAT and extra margins for stores, paying 1000€ for a basic model is brutal no matter how you turn it. At least software support will still be very long so you can really go for years with it and that's a redeeming thing I guess.
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