Tuesday, December 23rd 2025

AMD "Zen 6" SKUs with 3D V-Cache Could Pack Up to 288 MB of Cache

AMD's upcoming "Zen 6" client processors are expected to continue the trend of offering optional SKUs with 3D V-Cache, similar to their predecessors. However, these new processors might feature significantly larger cache capacities compared to the current "Zen 5" SKUs in the "Granite Ridge" family. According to HXL on X, the single-CCD version will include 144 MB of 3D V-Cache, while the dual-CCD configuration will have 288 MB of cache. This suggests that AMD will maintain its familiar CPU design with a client I/O die and two separate CCDs, each benefiting from increased cache capacity.

This approach is quite similar to Intel's upcoming "Nova Lake" processors, which are also set to receive a substantial boost in cache capacity through the big Last Level Cache (bLLC). Rumors suggest that these will offer 144 MB for SKUs with a single compute die and 288 MB for those with two compute dies. Intel already employs bLLC in its "Clearwater Forest" server processors as a passive interposer, integrating local cache beneath active tiles. Including this technology in standard gaming chips could significantly enhance performance, positioning them as strong competitors against the upcoming "Zen 6" processor family.
For "Zen 6," AMD plans to place the CPU CCD on TSMC's N2P 2 nm node variant and build the cIOD on the N3P 3 nm node. Additionally, the increased cache capacity will be complemented by advanced x86-64 instruction extensions like AVX512_BMM, AVX512_FP16, AVX_NE_CONVERT, AVX_IFMA, and AVX_VNNI_INT8, among others. This is particularly noteworthy because 16-bit AVX-512 calculations will now be possible on consumer-oriented desktop CPUs, providing an extra performance boost with a fast memory pool nearby.
Source: HXL on X
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77 Comments on AMD "Zen 6" SKUs with 3D V-Cache Could Pack Up to 288 MB of Cache

#1
Grimling
the question is, how much more performance will we get with that amount of cache in gaming?
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#2
Makaveli
Grimlingthe question is, how much more performance will we get with that amount of cache in gaming?
True and interesting that both Intel and AMD will be equal in size for this.

Another question will be who will have the lower latency cache plus we should be getting higher 1:1 speeds with DDR5 8000 and faster IF speeds on Zen 6 so alot of questions on what performance will look like with the new I/O die. This also means we should finally see a reduction on power consumption at idle on AMD.

I'm looking forward to replacing my 9800X3D with the 12 core single CCD X3D variant when its released.
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#3
_roman_
A twitter post ist worth a news. o.o

After reading the headline 3 times and the text I clicked on teh source. The source was Twitter with 2 simple lines and no real new information.
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#4
igormp
Grimlingthe question is, how much more performance will we get with that amount of cache in gaming?
I personally doubt there'll be any, but we shall see once such products become available and benchmarks take place.
_roman_A twitter post ist worth a news. o.o

After reading the headline 3 times and the text I clicked on teh source. The source was Twitter with 2 simple lines and no real new information.
There are LOTS of news posts here in TPU whose source are just a single tweet, I've lost count of how many rumors get shared here.
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#5
mroofie
How long before developer's start to prioritize x3d cpus and think everyone has one or should have one 🤪🤪🤪🙄
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#6
Lionheart
I just want a single CCD with 12 Cores/24 Threads with all the delicious X3D Cache, and none of that Zen6 + Zen6C crap!
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#7
AleksandarK
News Editor
_roman_A twitter post ist worth a news. o.o

After reading the headline 3 times and the text I clicked on teh source. The source was Twitter with 2 simple lines and no real new information.
The Twitter post in question is a source that has been accurate on AMD many times, for multiple generations now. If you notice, a lot of the Twitter posts are not here, for reasons that they are not reliable sources. We have a list of sources and their credibility, and a long track record.
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#8
Vayra86
mroofieHow long before developer's start to prioritize x3d cpus and think everyone has one or should have one 🤪🤪🤪🙄
When everyone has one. These things don't really pre empt hardware ownership, it goes the other way around. Only Nvidia wants to pre empt its hardware, so you get locked in their shithole.
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#9
BorisDG
We see in 2027 when they arrive. Quite a wait.
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#10
freeagent
Think Twitter is bad? You guys need to check out Truth Social.
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#11
Pets4Ever
freeagentThink Twitter is bad? You guys need to check out Truth Social.
I think they're both cesspits and I don't spend time on either.
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#12
freeagent
I am looking forward to Zen 6, I will grab one as soon as I can.. hopefully an R9.
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#13
ThomasK
igormpI personally doubt there'll be any
Do you honestly think both Intel and Amd engineering teams would invest R&D money on something for naught? Sure, there will be games that won't benefit or to a lesser degree, since it is also reliant on optimizations from game developers.
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#14
windwhirl
LionheartI just want a single CCD with 12 Cores/24 Threads with all the delicious X3D Cache, and none of that Zen6 + Zen6C crap!
Pretty sure most desktop processors not in the budget range (i.e., G/F processors) are exclusively normal Zen, not Zen c.
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#15
oobymach
Intel finally had enough of AMD running the cache game, they're probably going to take back the lead.
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#16
LiKenun
LionheartI just want a single CCD with 12 Cores/24 Threads with all the delicious X3D Cache, and none of that Zen6 + Zen6C crap!
And none of the inter-core latency or different CCD that doesn’t have X3D.
Makavelithe new I/O die
This and a PCIe 5.0-capable chipset (without daisy chaining) and I’m sold.
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#17
igormp
ThomasKDo you honestly think both Intel and Amd engineering teams would invest R&D money on something for naught? Sure, there will be games that won't benefit or to a lesser degree, since it is also reliant on optimizations from game developers.
Not for naught, that extra cache will be helpful to some prosumer tasks, where those CPUs are used as an entry-level HEDT since the actual HEDT became too expensive.
Those will also be halo products, and many folks will buy them for that reason. A great example of that are the folks that bought a 9950x3D just for games instead of the similarly performing 9800x3D for said use case.
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#18
docnorth
Maybe AMD knows better what to expect from Intel (or it's just a precaution measure).

Btw a single CCD 12 core CPU is rumoured, could it feature 216 MB of 3D V-Cache?
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#19
jesdals
At its current state AI is proberly going to eat all cache before release of the Zen 6 parts
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#20
Tek-Check
This was leaked months ago by Tom from MLID.
Has the article acknowledged him?
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#21
freeagent
Judging by the lack of quotes, the source.. I would say.. no.
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#22
phints
LionheartI just want a single CCD with 12 Cores/24 Threads with all the delicious X3D Cache, and none of that Zen6 + Zen6C crap!
Yea and I wouldn't be surprised if the extra realestate from moving to TSCM 3N or 2N means 12C per CCD for next gen. As near perfect as the 9800X3D is, I get the feeling there are diminishing returns on adding more L3$ and the next step is 12C per CCD along with other IPC tweaks. We'll see.
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#23
evernessince
MakaveliTrue and interesting that both Intel and AMD will be equal in size for this.

Another question will be who will have the lower latency cache plus we should be getting higher 1:1 speeds with DDR5 8000 and faster IF speeds on Zen 6 so alot of questions on what performance will look like with the new I/O die. This also means we should finally see a reduction on power consumption at idle on AMD.

I'm looking forward to replacing my 9800X3D with the 12 core single CCD X3D variant when its released.
High idle consumption on AMD is in large part due to the dual chipset solution that every reviewer tests with, IO die actual makes up the smaller portion of that. You can see this when comparing the Ryzen 5000 series vs the Ryzen 7000 series, where the 5000 series has identical power consumption to Intel parts:



www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-ultra-7-265k/24.html

Although you'd really like to see lower idle numbers than 50w on desktop in general. It can be hard though when the chipset takes 7-9w by itself.
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#24
TheDeeGee
$2 x 288 ontop of the $500 CPU, yikes.
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#25
CornyOC
Oh yeah boy, 12 core 288MB cache X3D CPU around 6GHz speed per core. I am more hyped for Zen 6 than any other hardware rn.
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