lexluthermiesterI'll second this and add that if it's not on GOG I'm not buying it.

AusWolfI prefer Steam because I own a Steam Deck. But I don't mind GOG either thanks to Heroic.

GrimlingGOG gives you the opportunity to actually own your Games. You can download them, they are DRM-Free, you can store them on a physical Drive you own, install and play them anytime you want offline, even without any internet. That is something people should care about!
Steam on the other hand, you need internet connection to log into your account. If your account is banned, hacked or you have no internet, you can not install or play "your" games. Many Games on Steam have special "DRM" that also requires you to have internet, even another account to log into.
All in all, the GOG solution is just better, but steam is more "convenient" for most players, it seems.

AusWolfIt is infinitely more convenient if you own a Steam Deck. GOG doesn't even have a native Linux client, you rely on Heroic to play your games, which kind of negates the "download offline installers" argument, imo.

Grimlingok, but you can install a gog game under steamOS, and then use steam to play it. its not that convenient, but it works.

AusWolfExactly. Isn't not that convenient, so why bother?

I know, I know, you own your games on GOG. But it's not that Valve is out there to revoke your license anytime soon. As an example, I have The War of the Roses on Steam. It's an online game that had its servers shut down years ago. The game is still in my Steam library, fully downloadable and executable, even though there's nothing you can do in it without the servers running. As it's completely useless, there's nothing preventing Valve from removing it from Steam completely, but they didn't. I think that tells a lot about where we stand with Steam.

Grimlingyeah i understand you. we can only hope that Gabe Newell stays in control of steam, because if some other corps buy it (like MS), you can expect Enshittification happening fast.

AusWolfWhat would be nice is if you could migrate already bought games within these storefronts like you change mobile providers while keeping the same phone.

AusWolfGOG doesn't even have a native Linux client

lexluthermiesterWait, what? Galaxy runs fine on Linux through Wine/Proton. It would be nice if there was a native Linux client, but then again, the GOG user base generally doesn't care about having to manually setup a game title. SteamOS has options to do it easily under Proton.

HisDivineOrderSo the way I see Sony (and Microsoft) right now with their newly rediscovered love of exclusives is they have console(s) launching next year. These consoles are going to cost way more than any console in the history of consoles. They're suddenly competing with PC pricing. They're already going to have new users basically plateaued because the prices are going to scare away anyone not already huge in their ecosystems. Assuming Nintendo keeps their prices near where they're at (about half the price of Sony and Microsoft), well, expect Nintendo to begin acquiring a whole new generation of gamers while Sony and Microsoft stand around, watching.

If I'm Sony, I have to do something to make my console have some buzz. The thing that stands out to me is how cagey they're being about calling off exclusives. Officially, they're leaving room for a change in strategy basically at any time, which btw was exactly what the original story Jason Schreier said way back in his first reporting. He's pretty aggressive about it now, but that might be because he's been called out for basically being on his own with this reporting and forced to justify it so long he's taken a stand on it.

But the gist of it looks like to me both companies basically said the same thing within two weeks of each other. Exclusives are back and they're "case by case basis." I wouldn't expect any cases for Sony that involve PC ports for single player games until PS6 launches imo. So assuming that's next year, look at 2028-9 before we know what costs are and what sales are like. If games are still costing out the butt and sales are slow because gamers are poorer with less desire for new hardware, then suddenly I expect them to find it in their hearts to release the games from this year and next that they hadn't yet.

And wouldn't you know it? It'll have been about two years for Ghost of Yotei with a series of games ready to be ported, one after another, for a few years.

Just like last time.

CornyOCSteam or nothing, simple as that.


I don't see the point to buy a console if both PC and console are expensive. PC hardware is more sophisticated choice in every way.

CornyOCSteam or nothing, simple as that.

CornyOCI don't see the point to buy a console if both PC and console are expensive. PC hardware is more sophisticated choice in every way.

AusWolfThat's the thing! If Sony wants me to buy a Playstation, they'll have to entice me with the price. Making games exclusive won't make me any richer.

AusWolfNo, it's primarily Steam for many of us, myself included. The Steam Deck, and soon the Steam Machine is a thing, you know.

HisDivineOrderBut the gist of it looks like to me both companies basically said the same thing within two weeks of each other. Exclusives are back and they're "case by case basis." I wouldn't expect any cases for Sony that involve PC ports for single player games until PS6 launches imo. So assuming that's next year, look at 2028-9 before we know what costs are and what sales are like. If games are still costing out the butt and sales are slow because gamers are poorer with less desire for new hardware, then suddenly I expect them to find it in their hearts to release the games from this year and next that they hadn't yet.

lexluthermiesterPlus you'd have to buy that over-priced, ugly as hell PS5. No thanks.