Found no other changes to existing memory - new IO feature for wifi and Bluetooth on Elite Wifi 7 x870e board

I doubt gigglebyte is a leading manufacturer, maybe in explosive devices and slimy hardware. (hint. power supply unit and not proper evaluated thermal slime on graphic cards)

Are those DRAM not DDR5 compatible or is this just the useless default profies. Does this Chinese company not use proper expo profiles? something does not make any sense.

expo should define most of the DDR5 value. DDR5 should boot after any CMOS reset on any motherboard with the safe default values. I read it that way that gigglebyte can not boot DDR5 dram when there is no base profile in the Flash EEPROM for the uefi, sometimes wrongly named BIOS.

Does this mean AM5's sweet spot is going to move to a higher speed now, to something above 6,000/6,200?

_roman_I doubt gigglebyte is a leading manufacturer, maybe in explosive devices and slimy hardware. (hint. power supply unit and not proper evaluated thermal slime on graphic cards)

Are those DRAM not DDR5 compatible or is this just the useless default profies. Does this Chinese company not use proper expo profiles? something does not make any sense.

expo should define most of the DDR5 value. DDR5 should boot after any CMOS reset on any motherboard with the safe default values. I read it that way that gigglebyte can not boot DDR5 dram when there is no base profile in the Flash EEPROM for the uefi, sometimes wrongly named BIOS.

Yes Gigglebyte made explosive Power supplies in some lab scenarios, that is why you shouldn't buy their motherboards
Asus have RMA issues + their software is dangerous for network safety + they are burning AM5 CPUs, that is why you shouldn't buy their motherboards
Asrock AM5 motherboards kills CPUs, probably more often than Asus, that is why you shouldn't buy their motherboards
MSI have shady review practises + their prebuilds are crapier than Gigabyte PSUs, , that is why you shouldn't buy their motherboards

So what motherboard should I buy?

I always knew that Biostar is the only one solid choice :D

If I get a chance to buy CXMT RAM I might try it in the B850.

My fleet of Gigabyte boards for the haters.

PixelTechDoes this mean AM5's sweet spot is going to move to a higher speed now, to something above 6,000/6,200?

Isn't that where it has always been? The biggest limitation to going higher is how the CPU itself is built, and you need to go much higher to compensate the extra latency from running unsynced

OT;

LTUGamerI always knew that Biostar is the only one solid choice :D

I'll throw Foxconn into the mix here... They no longer produce boards under their own name, but they're still practically ubiquitous.


Regards,
Fred.

I welcome our Chinese ram overlords.

Someone wake me when prices start coming down.

_roman_I doubt gigglebyte is a leading manufacturer, maybe in explosive devices and slimy hardware. (hint. power supply unit and not proper evaluated thermal slime on graphic cards)

Are those DRAM not DDR5 compatible or is this just the useless default profies. Does this Chinese company not use proper expo profiles? something does not make any sense.

expo should define most of the DDR5 value. DDR5 should boot after any CMOS reset on any motherboard with the safe default values. I read it that way that gigglebyte can not boot DDR5 dram when there is no base profile in the Flash EEPROM for the uefi, sometimes wrongly named BIOS.

To me, they are the leading supplier of warranty claim denials.

Many of my coworkers who have a high end PC never buy Gigabyte for that reason.

DukenukemxI welcome our Chinese ram overlords.

Let's call it "commie red".

jesdalsFound no other changes to existing memory - new IO feature for wifi and Bluetooth on Elite Wifi 7 x870e board

O Ohh, i removed them from my boards just don't need them haha. In fact on my Giga board there is no option to disable wifi\bluetooth in the bios.

LTUGamerYes Gigglebyte made explosive Power supplies in some lab scenarios, that is why you shouldn't buy their motherboards
Asus have RMA issues + their software is dangerous for network safety + they are burning AM5 CPUs, that is why you shouldn't buy their motherboards
Asrock AM5 motherboards kills CPUs, probably more often than Asus, that is why you shouldn't buy their motherboards
MSI have shady review practises + their prebuilds are crapier than Gigabyte PSUs, , that is why you shouldn't buy their motherboards

So what motherboard should I buy?

Has the am5 motherboard a decent layout?
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQHkDEcgDPm34Mns3C93K6SJoBnua-x9O-y_6hv8sPs/edit?gid=446857487#gid=446857487

Yes -> Step 2 -> Did it get proper firmware -> watch over several months.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12zg6yT_H7H-W1voyw1ZoIrj0GSE7WI4Ug-uLlv-Asa8/edit?gid=937453961#gid=937453961

In my biased view, what i remember, what i did not write down.
e.g. my asus prime etc. asus prime and tuf gets much later a uefi update
Avoid anything which is ASUS Prime and TUF.
Avoid anything which has not visual passive cooler only for all the cpu related power regulation. if it has a fan, avoid it. if the motherboard has a fan, avoid it.

I learned it the wrong way.
I wanted to test something else and bought after two MSI, one ASUS, than a MSI. The asus is lying around for 15 months because the asus prime x670-p is dell grade. asus did not reveal for more than 4 weeks an uefi update, although a massive security breach CVE was known. Fact. that was the reason i had to replace it with some other issues.

MSI X670E gaming plus wifi does clock higher, but has firmware issues in regards of the post screen and initialisation to keep it short.
A fact is, i put a reset switch next to my usb high end sound card. when the motherboard does not wake up fast enough, indicated by the usb device, keyboard light, monitor etc i use instantly the reset button. than the msi motherboard boots faster. also when the screen does not initalisie because two monitors are too much for the acer graphic card + that msi motherboard. that msi motherboard had before problems with the asus graphic card.

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I can not recommend a brand. The least problematic brand and high performance is msi for my personal choice. ASROCK / Biostar / NZXT = ASROCK / Sapphire = not sure .. is it ASROCK sell too few boards or have problems over the time with dead cpus, etc.

It seems the most common choice are MSI and ASUS for AM5 and AM4. ASUS especially the high end Strix etc. series. If I would be willing to spend in the 350€ range I may consider teh asus strix series.

PixelTechDoes this mean AM5's sweet spot is going to move to a higher speed now, to something above 6,000/6,200?

The memory controller is in the am5 cpu.

What i saw MSI X670E clocks better than ASUS X670. A bit is related to the motherboard but a lot is related to the firmware and cpu.

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I did not update my uefi. My motherboard seems also to have gotten that "chinese based" memory stuff. when i remember that company names properly i will name them in future. I assume it is only chinese memory related changes, maybe just some default profiles or the hidden values have got added which may be not stored in the expo memory profile.

msi reveals itself with
- AGESA PI-1.3.0.1b Patch A updated.

i claim / can not proof ... it is still agesa 1.3.0.1 with just changes for the ryzen 9000 memory encryption and chinese memory profiles

www.msi.com/Motherboard/X670E-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI/support

A&P211Let's call it "commie red".

We have nothing to lose except over priced ram.