Wednesday, July 31st 2019

G.SKILL Releases Optimized DDR4-3800 CL14 Memory Kit for AMD Ryzen 3000 & X570 Platform

G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd., the world's leading manufacturer of extreme performance memory and gaming peripherals, is releasing a highly optimized, extremely low latency Trident Z Neo series DDR4-3800MHz CL14 RGB memory kit in 16 GB (8 GB x2) and 32 GB (8 GB x4) capacities for the AMD Ryzen 3000 series CPU and X570 chipset platform. Built with the powerful Samsung B-die component, this is the perfect DDR4 memory kit for those looking to push the limits of memory bandwidth on your new AMD Ryzen 3000 platform.

At this point, it's well-known that memory performance with the new AMD Ryzen 3000 processor series is best when Infinity Fabric being tied to the memory clock at a 1:1 ratio. The G.SKILL R&D team is dedicated to push the performance boundaries even further and developed a high-frequency, low-latency memory kit at DDR4-3800 CL14-16-16-36 in capacity configurations of 8GBx2 and 8GBx4, reaching a superb memory bandwidth performance under the optimal 1:1 ratio.
As seen in the screenshot above, this Trident Z Neo memory kit is running at DDR4-3800 CL14-16-16-36 in 8GBx2 capacity with the AMD Ryzen 9 3900X processor and the MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE motherboard, reaching a tested memory bandwidth of 58 GB/s, 56 GB/s, and 58 GB/s for read, write, and copy, respectively.

Complete Stability & Reliability
Like any G.SKILL memory kit, the specifications must remain fully stable under a memory stress test, as shown in the screenshots below, showing the 32 GB (8 GB x4) memory kit operating on an ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR VIII Formula motherboard with the AMD Ryzen 5 3600X processor and the 16 GB (8 GB x2) memory kit running on the MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE motherboard with the AMD Ryzen 9 3900X processor.
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53 Comments on G.SKILL Releases Optimized DDR4-3800 CL14 Memory Kit for AMD Ryzen 3000 & X570 Platform

#2
zlobby
I thought the 1:1 ratio was only preseved until 3600?
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#3
Wavetrex
Did they mention how many kidneys it will cost ?

I barely noticed a tiny 1-2% difference between 3000 CL16 and 3600 CL16... what is this one going to bring, another 1% ?
Totally not worth it.
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#4
EarthDog
zlobby, post: 4089993, member: 172939"
I thought the 1:1 ratio was only preseved until 3600?
It seems to vary by board and even BIOS.

For example, I set DOCP/XMP with GSKill Neo 3600 CL14 sticks and it sets it to 2:1. Most boards will flip around 3733.
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#5
iAshox
zlobby, post: 4089993, member: 172939"
I thought the 1:1 ratio was only preseved until 3600?
its now 3800. they updated something and i really dont remember
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#6
EarthDog
iAshox, post: 4090017, member: 185323"
its now 3800. they updated something and i really dont remember
EarthDog, post: 4090007, member: 79836"
It seems to vary by board and even BIOS.
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#7
TheWonder500
Wavetrex, post: 4090005, member: 182738"
Did they mention how many kidneys it will cost ?

I barely noticed a tiny 1-2% difference between 3000 CL16 and 3600 CL16... what is this one going to bring, another 1% ?
Totally not worth it.
I noticed quite a difference between 3200 CL14 and 3600 CL14.

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#8
hzy4
I the screenshot there is the voltage for 3800mhz defined at 1.5v. I have a G.Skill 3600mhz CL16 kit, which runs at 1.35v. There is a high probability to hit the same speed and timing when I go to 1.5v
So what is the golden rule for Ryzen 3000, will every chip do 1900mhz on Fclock?
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#9
TheWonder500
iAshox, post: 4090017, member: 185323"
its now 3800. they updated something and i really dont remember
No, after 3600 your motherboard bios will unset the ratio. You'll have to manually set it for 3733 and above.
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#10
Wavetrex
hzy4, post: 4090024, member: 186895"
I the screenshot there is the voltage for 3800mhz defined at 1.5v. I have a G.Skill 3600mhz CL16 kit, which runs at 1.35v. There is a high probability to hit the same speed and timing when I go to 1.5v
So what is the golden rule for Ryzen 3000, will every chip do 1900mhz on Fclock?
Probably with more voltage on the VDDCR SOC ( higher than 1.1 which is default), it will.
But at stock voltage, it most likely crashes after 1800, or fails to boot completely.

I wouldn't do it though, that's a 14nm die that contains the IF and Memory controllers, it might not like the extra voltage.
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#11
DanteAlighieri
zlobby, post: 4089993, member: 172939"
I thought the 1:1 ratio was only preseved until 3600?
You can run 1:1 @ 3800mhz with UCLK and FCLK both @ 1900mhz
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#12
TheWonder500
hzy4, post: 4090024, member: 186895"
I the screenshot there is the voltage for 3800mhz defined at 1.5v. I have a G.Skill 3600mhz CL16 kit, which runs at 1.35v. There is a high probability to hit the same speed and timing when I go to 1.5v
So what is the golden rule for Ryzen 3000, will every chip do 1900mhz on Fclock?
You have a high probability of being unstable even if you post, just FYI. I've done a lot of testing recently.

1.5V should be fine but if your temperatures get up to mid 50C, that can causes stability issues too.
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#13
bug
At this point, it's well-known that memory performance with the new AMD Ryzen 3000 processor series is best when Infinity Fabric being tied to the memory clock at a 1:1 ratio
Isn't it also well-known that you get best results when using just two sticks of RAM?
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#14
mainlate
Specialized software, specialized hardware, 'validated for Ryzen' all kind of special hardware for AMD´s platform released...it´s AMD´s job to make their hardware compatible with everything that exists currently and have
same compatibility than Intel...not other way around.

Wondering how is the expansion card compatibility on X570 motherboards. I don´t mean graphics cards, they work, but for ex. SATA controller cards, especially those using Asmedia´s controller chip.

I have Crosshair VI hero and if this card:

https://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/HDD-Controllers/SATA-Cards/2-Port-PCI-Express-SATA-6-Gbps-eSATA-Controller-Card~PEXESAT322I

is installed in any slot and some HDD connected to it, I can´t boot to windows because of 'Kernel security error' BSOD - two year old problem, multiple BIOS updates, Windows 10 OS versions and same problem persists. On my Intel systems, card works fine.

All tech review sites whenever they test motherboards, they only propably test graphics cards on them. If they work, five star score given for PCIe card compatibility.
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#15
bug
mainlate, post: 4090052, member: 181656"
Specialized software, specialized hardware, 'validated for Ryzen' all kind of special hardware for AMD´s platform released...it´s AMD´s job to make their hardware compatible with everything that exists currently and have
same compatability than Intel...not other way around.
Don't worry about it, these things are compatible enough. It's just that Zen was a little finicky at first (i.e. Zen, afaik the memory controller in Zen+ was already improved) and now everybody uses this as a means to earn a few more $$$.
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#16
hzy4
mainlate, post: 4090052, member: 181656"
Specialized software, specialized hardware, 'validated for Ryzen' all kind of special hardware for AMD´s platform released...it´s AMD´s job to make their hardware compatible with everything that exists currently and have
same compatability than Intel...not other way around.

Wondering how is the expansion card compatability on X570 motherboards. I don´t mean graphics cards, they work, but for ex. SATA controller cards, especially those using Asmedia´s controller chip.

I have Crosshair VI hero and if this card:

https://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/HDD-Controllers/SATA-Cards/2-Port-PCI-Express-SATA-6-Gbps-eSATA-Controller-Card~PEXESAT322I

is installed in any slot and some HDD connected to it, I can´t boot to windows because of 'Kernel security error' BSOD - two year old problem, multiple BIOS updates, Windows 10 OS versions and same problem persists. On my Intel systems, card works fine.

All tech review sites whenever they test motherboards, they only propably test graphics cards on them. If they work, five star score given for PCIe card compatability.
How is this related to DRAM ? Is the PCIe Sata Card certified/compatible for/with ryzen? Crosshair VI hero has 8 SATA ports, you have 9 disk, and also the OS is on the SSD connected to the PCIe card, why?
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#17
1d10t
mainlate, post: 4090052, member: 181656"
I have Crosshair VI hero and if this card:
https://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/HDD-Controllers/SATA-Cards/2-Port-PCI-Express-SATA-6-Gbps-eSATA-Controller-Card~PEXESAT322I
is installed in any slot and some HDD connected to it, I can´t boot to windows because of 'Kernel security error' BSOD - two year old problem, multiple BIOS updates, Windows 10 OS versions and same problem persists. On my Intel systems, card works fine.
All tech review sites whenever they test motherboards, they only propably test graphics cards on them. If they work, five star score given for PCIe card compatibility.
How does this even DRAM related?
You have any M.2 populated? If so,try removing all of them. Asus are the one to blame here,not the "CPU maker" :rolleyes:

-= edited=-
hzy4 caught it first :shadedshu:
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#18
TheLostSwede
zlobby, post: 4089993, member: 172939"
I thought the 1:1 ratio was only preseved until 3600?
Depends on the CPU, the UEFI and what the board makers have done.
3800 is possible, but it's a rare combination of things that needs to come together for it to work well and be stable.

Testing below by HiCookie

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#19
mainlate
1d10t, post: 4090062, member: 110464"
How does this even DRAM related?
You have any M.2 populated? If so,try removing all of them. Asus are the one to blame here,not the "CPU maker" :rolleyes:

-= edited=-
hzy4 caught it first :shadedshu:
Not related to DRAM in any way...that X570 Meg Ace review thread would have been better place probably... 'Is the PCIe Sata Card certified for Ryzen' - probably not cause it has been in market long before Ryzen was released, but why it should be, still works in all Intel z77,z87,z270,H370 mainboards I have tested. And yes, may be ASUS related or Asmedia´s chipset or something...I only have one Ryzen mobo.

I don´t have M.2 drives - 8 HDDS and 2 SDDs so 10 SATA ports needed.
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#20
zlobby
DanteAlighieri, post: 4090043, member: 175777"
You can run 1:1 @ 3800mhz with UCLK and FCLK both @ 1900mhz
But isn't that a pure manual FCLK/UCLK overclock?

I'm also seeing some contradictory information in the posts above.
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#21
SystemMechanic
1.5V...i bet They run like hot chips. I am betting 60c during gaming / rendering ?
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#22
DanteAlighieri
zlobby, post: 4090094, member: 172939"
But isn't that a pure manual FCLK/UCLK overclock?

I'm also seeing some contradictory information in the posts above.
Yeah, it is .. both need to be set at the same freq so you don't have a latency penalty.
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#23
zo0lykas
60c under load its okey for rams, get passive cooling and stop cry

sure 1.5v is a bit to high in 2019

SystemMechanic, post: 4090100, member: 184970"
1.5V...i bet They run like hot chips. I am betting 60c during gaming / rendering ?
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#24
1d10t
mainlate, post: 4090082, member: 181656"
Not related to DRAM in any way...that X570 Meg Ace review thread would have been better place probably... 'Is the PCIe Sata Card certified for Ryzen' - probably not cause it has been in market long before Ryzen was released, but why it should be, still works in all Intel z77,z87,z270,H370 mainboards I have tested. And yes, may be ASUS related or Asmedia´s chipset or something...I only have one Ryzen mobo.

I don´t have M.2 drives - 8 HDDS and 2 SDDs so 10 SATA ports needed.
AFAIK, x370 only support 6 SATA native with additional 2 being M.2 so total 8 storage possibility. CHVI only had 1 slot M.2 in exchange 2 SATA port, but adding 3 PCIe 3.0 x1 from PCH, so in theory if you had all (8) SATA populated you had "nothing" left.Kinda bummer.
I might suggest using docking if your drive not critical though, or if that not your taste you wanna cek ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming .
... or better yet the new x570 :D
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