Friday, October 4th 2019

Intel 10th Gen Core X "Cascade Lake-X" Pricing and Specs Detailed

Ahead of their October 7th product launch and November availability, we have confirmation of the specifications and pricing of Intel's 10th generation Core X "Cascade Lake-X" HEDT processors in the LGA2066 package. These chips feature compatibility with existing socket LGA2066 motherboards with a UEFI BIOS update, although several motherboard manufacturers are launching new products with some of the latest connectivity options, such as 2.5 GbE wired Ethernet, and 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6 WLAN.

The 10th generation Core X HEDT processor family is based on the new 14 nm++ "Cascade Lake" silicon, which comes with hardware fixes against several classes side-channel vulnerabilities, and introduces an updated instruction-set that includes more AVX-512 instructions, and the new DLBoost instruction. DLBoost leverages new fixed-function hardware on silicon to accelerate AI deep-learning neural-set building and training by up to 5 times. Intel's first wave of 10th gen Core X lineup is rather slim, with just four processor models. The company did away with the Core i7 brand extension, as core-counts in the mainstream desktop segment have already reached 8-core. The lineup now begins at 10-core/20-thread, with the chip's full 48-lane PCI-Express and 4-channel DDR4 interfaces enabled across the board. All models feature the "XE" brand extension, and feature unlocked base-clock multipliers.
The Core i9-10900XE is your gateway to the series. This 10-core/20-thread chip comes with a fascinating price-tag of just USD $590, a significant drop from the $999 price for the previous-generation 10-core chip, the i9-9900X. It's clocked higher, with 3.70 GHz nominal, 4.50 GHz Turbo Boost 2.0, 4.70 GHz Turbo Boost Max 3.0 and 4.30 GHz all-core Turbo. The chip is endowed with 1 MB of dedicated L2 cache per core, and 19.25 MB of shared L3 cache.

The Core i9-10920XE is a $689 12-core/24-thread chip priced under AMD's upcoming flagship AM4 model, the Ryzen 9 3950X. It's marginally faster than its predecessor, the i9-9920X, with 3.50 GHz base clocks (same), 4.60 GHz Turbo Boost 2.0, 4.80 GHz Turbo Boost Max 3.0, and 4.30 GHz all-core turbo. Interestingly, the increase in core-count doesn't bring additional L3 cache, you get the same 19.25 MB.

The next step in this series is the $784 Core i9-10940XE, a 14-core/28-thread processor clocked at 3.30 GHz, with 4.60 GHz Turbo Boost 2.0, 4.80 GHz Turbo Boost Max 3.0, and 4.10 GHz all-core turbo. Yet again, you get just 19.25 MB of shared L3 cache. Interestingly, Intel did not plan a 16-core/32-thread model in this series, you jump straight to the flagship.

Leading the pack is the Core i9-10980XE, an 18-core/36-thread processor priced at a mouth-watering $979, which is less than half that of the previous-generation Core i9-9980XE. It ticks at 3.00 GHz, with 4.60 GHz Turbo Boost 2.0, 4.80 GHz Turbo Boost Max 3.0, and 3.80 GHz all-core turbo. You get a larger 24.75 MB of shared L3 cache. All four chips have their TDP rated at 165 W.
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124 Comments on Intel 10th Gen Core X "Cascade Lake-X" Pricing and Specs Detailed

#26
kinjx11
are those max clocks on all cores or just 2 cores like the previous gen ?!
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#27
Turmania
I don't know what performance gains we will receive even for consumer chips next Gen for both cpu companies but I do know that even 360mm radiator solutions will be pushing to their limits to cool the cpu.
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#28
xkm1948
The 14 core from Intel is priced close to AMD's 3950X 16 core. Although 2 less cores and worse IPC, it does have quad channel memory support, AVX512 and more PCI-E lanes.

I really want to see AMD's $1000 level Threadripper offering this year. Maybe it will be the 24 core version? The battle of 24 Zen2 cores versus 18 CKL cores at $1000. Man what a nice time. DRAM is cheap, SSD is cheap, CPU are great. Nice.

Ashtr1x, post: 4127258, member: 188813"
Honestly seeing this extreme Whiteknighting AMD is so funny. Addressing a corporate by thanking LOL.

Guys AMD / Intel all and any company will raise prices and stagnate in innovation if there is no competition.

How about the AMD X570 board Premium ? $700+ for a Mainstream Mobo where each and every Processor behaves differently and just because they added PCIE gen 4. Its not automatically worth. They did it because DMI link on Intel was saturated and Gen 4 will give them huge up in Server area - NVMe SSDs are the reason and their EPYCs 128Lane advantage goes in hand when considering 2 socket Racks.

Again same for Nvidia, they ruined XX70 SKU silicon at first by relegating it to XX60 and disabling SLI/ NVlink. With Super you see the pricing ans SLI back. AMD 5700 stop gap until premium Navi hits in 2020. Its good but do not forget they all work for profits and not good Samaritan charity lmao.

I myself want to buy a new PC because BIOS EOL in 2020 but $700 for top end X570 sucks esp when Gen 4 lanes cant be split into Gen3 which makes the total x4 chipset lanes multiple and giving us huge advantage since Gen 4 SSDs are only currently used (see Der8aur on that on how useful they are) and Gen 3 X16 itself only maxed by 2080Ti at 4K high bandwidth. and no matter gen 3 or gen 2 the lanes will be eaten up once you plug it in the gen4 slot.

This is where the cheap X299 Mobo kicks in, EVGA X299 dark is very cheap now. I hope TRX40 is good platform.
You will get used to it. Anyone who does not worship AMD is considered an Intel shill in the eyes of AMD fanatics.
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#29
jayjr1105
Pretty crazy Intel cutting pricing by this much. Speaks volumes about what AMD has coming down the pipe with 7nm Threadripper. Intel shareholders won't be happy.
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#30
Valantar
ratirt, post: 4127255, member: 165024"
There is not issue with my logic. The price drop is impressive and that's a positive thing. For the record if something/someone deserves a credit for this price drop is not Intel but AMD. So your statement positive/impressive defined by Intel rather than a separate and more neutral-like makes no sense.
It was not a wrongdoing. I didn't buy Intel because I knew the price is too high. It's that simple.

Stop seeing Intel as charity. It is a company and do not humanize the company again. This is business it has nothing to do with good feelings, right-doing or wrongdoing. The problem is not Intel jacking up the price but people still buying it and calling it worth the money. You don't need to look far for those people.

The choice I mentioned refers to people. They have a choice not to go with Intel with it's ridiculous prices but AMD as an alternative not choice for Intel to lower the price.

Are you kidding me? Saying the price drop is impressive means I'm praising INTEL ? What the hell is wrong with you?
Saying something Intel did is impressive without explicitly explaining how or why it reflects on someone else is praising Intel, yes. If you don't see that, you should consider wording yourself more clearly.

And please don't come dragging the worn-out "[Company X] isn't a charity" nonsense. Businesses have no obligation whatsoever to fleece customers just because they can. Sure, the Milton Friedman school of predatory capitalism believes this, sure, but that's an economic theory so full of holes it's caused more and bigger financial crashes than any other. And claiming that any perceived right- or wrongdoing by a business is "humanizing" it is just plain weird. By that logic, companies can never be held accountable for their actions, as they are incapable of action in the first place. Of course companies can - and often do - both right and wrong things. Companies exist in the world just like everything else, and arguably have more responsibility towards shaping the world in a way gainful to humanity as they have more resources and influence to do so. This isn't "humanizing" a company, it is seeing it as an entity that exists within society.
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#31
jayjr1105
xkm1948, post: 4127313, member: 50521"
The 14 core from Intel is priced close to AMD's 3950X 16 core. Although 2 less cores and worse IPC, it does have quad channel memory support, AVX512 and more PCI-E lanes.

I really want to see AMD's $1000 level Threadripper offering this year. Maybe it will be the 24 core version? The battle of 24 Zen2 cores versus 18 CKL cores at $1000. Man what a nice time. DRAM is cheap, SSD is cheap, CPU are great. Nice.



You will get used to it. Anyone who does not worship AMD is considered an Intel shill in the eyes of AMD fanatics.
If only power supplies weren't hammered by tariffs it would be the perfect storm to build a PC
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#32
dicktracy
kinjx11, post: 4127283, member: 164821"
are those max clocks on all cores or just 2 cores like the previous gen ?!
At least they don’t trick people with only single core boost at 1.5v.
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#33
jayjr1105
dicktracy, post: 4127348, member: 173119"
At least they don’t trick people with only single core boost at 1.5v.
Are you referring to Ryzen 3xxx? Isn't it all but fixed with ABBA microcode updates?
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#34
xkm1948
jayjr1105, post: 4127345, member: 190965"
If only power supplies weren't hammered by tariffs it would be the perfect storm to build a PC
Only if there are better GPU prices
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#35
kings
Intel is expensive - people complain
Intel reduce prices - people complain

Welcome to today's internet forums. :cool:
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#36
jayjr1105
Who's complaining about Intel cutting HEDT prices in half to compete with TR??
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#37
kings
Some people on this thread have already complained.
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#38
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Vayra86, post: 4127190, member: 152404"
Its a bit like calling the next Apple Iphone 'impressive' for costing 600 bucks this year instead of 1000 ;)

I guess now we know how high the Intel tax has been all these years :) They've lost the brand image that allowed them to charge these obscene numbers, and this is what's left. Mind you, its still not competitive :p
I wont pay more than 200 for any phone and 460 is my cap on GPUs.

jayjr1105, post: 4127355, member: 190965"
Are you referring to Ryzen 3xxx? Isn't it all but fixed with ABBA microcode updates?
Just ignore him his name implies him since he has to use a comic/movie character name, he certainly ain't a richard but a ""
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#39
dicktracy
jayjr1105, post: 4127355, member: 190965"
Are you referring to Ryzen 3xxx? Isn't it all but fixed with ABBA microcode updates?
You can’t fix what’s inherently a limitation of 7nm. And AMD has no fabs... there’s nothing they can do but reduce the clocks.
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#40
Slizzo
dicktracy, post: 4127392, member: 173119"
You can’t fix what’s inherently a limitation of 7nm. And AMD has no fabs... there’s nothing they can do but reduce the clocks.
That's... not true at all. Whether you own the fab or not does not change how you design and validate a processor.
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#41
Vayra86
dicktracy, post: 4127392, member: 173119"
You can’t fix what’s inherently a limitation of 7nm. And AMD has no fabs... there’s nothing they can do but reduce the clocks.
Its not a limitation of 7nm. Its a choice in balance and architecture.

If you want to troll... you gotta try harder.
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#42
dicktracy
Vayra86, post: 4127420, member: 152404"
Its not a limitation of 7nm. Its a choice in balance and architecture.

If you want to troll... you gotta try harder.
Not a limitation of 7nm ? Only trolls I see are from the AMD side. Period. In almost every Intel and Nvidia articles.
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#43
tabascosauz
FordGT90Concept, post: 4127155, member: 60463"
Ryzen 3rd gen has them beat across the board: lower price ($189 less for 12-core, but there seems to be some retailer gouging on the AMD side so realistically ~$100 less), more total cache (Ryzen has 64 MB L3), higher base clock speeds, lower wattage (105 versus 165).
To be fair, L3 is not an apples-to-apples comparison. We do enjoy 32/64MB on Matisse, but AMD's L3 is divided and confined in access amongst CCXs, while Intel's has always been unified. Intel also has had the lead in speed and latency, as well as an even bigger lead in DRAM due to AMD's IF and regressive latencies in Matisse.

But considering HEDT still relies on the Skylake core, everything else is a hard sell against the 3900X even with price drops, so I'm not sure what people are rejoicing for.
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#44
GoldenX
Finally some normal pricing, now please do the same with the desktop line.
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#45
Xuper
Why didn't Intel increase L3 Cache ? 25M is really low , compare to TR3. some workstation application favors the use of a large cache.
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#46
dicktracy
Xuper, post: 4127441, member: 83814"
Why didn't Intel increase L3 Cache ? 25M is really low , compare to TR3. some workstation application favors the use of a large cache.
because this is practically a 7980XE 3.0. Yawn.
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#47
Vayra86
dicktracy, post: 4127429, member: 173119"
Not a limitation of 7nm ? Only trolls I see are from the AMD side. Period. In almost every Intel and Nvidia articles.

Zen didnt clock high on 14nm either. Now, try to put two and two together... you can do it!
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#48
Valantar
kings, post: 4127359, member: 180022"
Intel is expensive - people complain
Intel reduce prices - people complain

Welcome to today's internet forums. :cool:
Underscoring that Intel is doing the bare minimum required and doesn't deserve any credit for this isn't complaining, it's just stating the obvious. I would have no issue congratulating Intel on a good move if they actually presented users with a better deal than the competition, yet all they're doing is playing catch-up and rectifying the terrible position they've put themselves in over the past years.

Vayra86, post: 4127452, member: 152404"
Zen didnt clock high on 14nm either. Now, try to put two and two together... you can do it!
You're likely right that the Zen arch isn't optimized much for high clocks - efficiency seems to be more of a focus, particularly for scaling to crazy core counts. One can hope that Zen3 goes for better clock speeds as well as 4-way SMT, I suppose? After all, we've seen what a single generation can do with clock speeds, such as Nehalem to Sandy Bridge. That wasn't a small overhaul, but it was still within one generation, and the improvements were massive.
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#49
(*^^*)
What was the price of the past Intel CPU? Is this the price of a true Intel CPU? Have you suddenly found a manufacturing cost reduction method that is different from the previous Intel CPU? Is it only me that feels fooled?
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#50
jayjr1105
I'm absolutely tickled with my 3600, 100MHz missing boost or not. 65 watts of 6 core 12 thread power that rips though anything I throw at it for $190??? YES PLEASE! AMD products only get better with BIOS microcode updates. Intel only gets worse from launch day with their BI-monthly security exploits.
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